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Don't have kids? Pope says you'll die bitter & alone

  • 03-06-2014 8:44am
    #1
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/06/03/frans-pet-hate/
    Pope Francis said that staying childless will ultimately bring married couples nothing but “the bitterness of loneliness”.

    The Pope also counselled childless couples to be fruitful and multiply, and not spend time raising pets when they could be raising children. He said that while a childless life offers better vacation opportunities, it will end in solitude:
    This culture of well-being from ten years ago convinced us: ‘It’s better not to have children! It’s better! You can go explore the world, go on holiday, you can have a villa in the countryside, you can be care-free… it might be better – more comfortable – to have a dog, two cats, and the love goes to the two cats and the dog. Is this true or is this not? Have you seen it?

    Then, in the end this marriage comes to old age in solitude, with the bitterness of loneliness. It is not fruitful, it does not do what Jesus does with his Church: He makes His Church fruitful.
    Maybe Eamon Casey and Michael Cleary had the right idea after all…?

    So if you can't actually have kids you are still going against what Jesus wants of you? Is it Jesus will that you die bitter and alone?

    Also what about the majority of unmarried mothers? Are they being too fruitful? :P


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Frankie, Frankie! With all your erudition you don't understand irony!

    Childless pope preaches to childless couples shocker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    My aunt has no kids and she's not bitter and alone, she's much too busy jetting off to Frihiliana with all her mates whose children never visit them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Childless pope preaches to childless couples shocker!

    Don't go making crazy assumptions.
    He could have more kids than the average ballymun mickey money enthusiast for all you know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Won't god keep them company? What about single parents? When we bring in same sex marriage can they collect a child on the way out?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Looking at world population trends, short of a world war or major pandemic, there's not much chance of anyone dying alone. Some of the WOA!! stuff makes for interesting reading. What was sensible in terms of family planning in biblical times is not so today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    This is the same guy who tells couples who want to use ivf or surrogacy that they are bad people who are going to hell. :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    eviltwin wrote: »
    This is the same guy who tells couples who want to use ivf or surrogacy that they are bad people who are going to hell. :rolleyes:

    Thank god for IVF ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    Does that apply to him too?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭DaisyD2


    [quote=



    So if you can't actually have kids you are still going against what Jesus wants of you? Is it Jesus will that you die bitter and alone?? :P[/quote]

    Yeah, cos Jesus was so busy in his 33yrs living with his Mother to go off, get married - in a Church - & get busy multipying. Worked well for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Reading between the lines:

    Pope regrets the fact that he never was a parent. (He's a bit bitter over it now too!)


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Pope regrets the fact that he never was a parent. (He's a bit bitter over it now too!)
    Much my reading of it too.

    I'd watch out around those long stairs in the Vatican if I were the pope's cat.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Cabaal wrote: »
    So if you can't actually have kids you are still going against what Jesus wants of you? Is it Jesus will that you die bitter and alone?
    If you can't have kids it's part of God's plan.

    His plan for you have your dream car, a low handicap and holiday in places like Angkor Wat and Cancun, instead of Kelly's of Rosslare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Dades wrote: »
    If you can't have kids it's part of God's plan.

    His plan for you have your dream car, a low handicap and holiday in places like Angkor Wat and Cancun, instead of Kelly's of Rosslare.

    God's plan for my atheist great grand uncle was to join the RAF in 1936, train as a medic, fight through WWII (learning Arabic and German on the way), participate in a hilarious plan to invade Turkey that was sadly shelved due to being stupid even by military standards, organise the destruction of Luftwaffe airfields in the Hamburg region, pass the exams to become a dental student but decline due to marriage to a ex Ministry of Info clerical worker so became a lumberjack in Canada instead. Suck at lumberjacking so become a heater sales man instead. Suck at that so apply for a job with BOAC as a steward. Eventually become chief steward on Concorde based in Manhattan where wife works on 5th Avenue. Retire in 1984 to build house in West Cork on land bought for thruppence ha'penny in the 50s (bought in east and north Cork too as God couldn't decide) where both still reside and amuse themselves by building interesting found object sculptures in their garden in between visits from nieces, grand-nieces, great-grand nephews and on occasion great-great-grand niece and nephew.

    God is such a b*stard.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    [...] Suck at lumberjacking [...]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Pope in scare tactic recruitment drive shocker.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,922 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    "weeeeeeeeeee!!!! Look at my birdy!!!!"

    Pope-Frances-Dove-NewsBytes-143.jpg

    "..... I mean, pets are bad!!"

    Pope+Francis+stern.jpg

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    Dades wrote: »
    If you can't have kids it's part of God's plan.

    His plan for you have your dream car, a low handicap and holiday in places like Angkor Wat and Cancun, instead of Kelly's of Rosslare.

    Ah Dades, you're setting the bar awfully high there. Some of us can only aspire to such luxury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    legspin wrote: »
    Ah Dades, you're setting the bar awfully high there. Some of us can only aspire to such luxury.

    Meh.

    Got the most painful ear infection thanks to their pool back at the end of the last century and never returned.

    Nice cakes tho....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    SW wrote: »
    "weeeeeeeeeee!!!! Look at my birdy!!!!"
    I just thought of the most dreadful joke involving that photo of the pope and birds and fingers, but this post is too polite to contain it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Pope+Francis+stern.jpg

    Is he sitting on the can?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    I just thought of the most dreadful joke involving that photo of the pope and birds and fingers, but this post is too polite to contain it.

    PM me ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,888 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    he picked a great week to say this from an irish point of view. have kids! they'll be loved and cherished, and their bodies used to make compost!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    legspin wrote: »
    Ah Dades, you're setting the bar awfully high there. Some of us can only aspire to such luxury.
    You're right. I stayed in the Ferrycarrig a few years back as Kelly's was charging Monaco prices. :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    Francis is referring to Joseph Ratzinger I think ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Cabaal wrote: »
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/06/03/frans-pet-hate/







    So if you can't actually have kids you are still going against what Jesus wants of you? Is it Jesus will that you die bitter and alone?

    Also what about the majority of unmarried mothers? Are they being too fruitful? :P

    Of course this is the seniormost sect of a cult, one of who's earliest known strictures was that followers not engage in any sexual activity at all, because as any fule then new, armageddon was just waiting around the next corner waiting to get you dead.

    Christianity, please make up your mind over what rules you want us following, so as I can know what forbidden acts will stay forbidden.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dallas Kind Lumber


    Of course this is the seniormost sect of a cult, one of who's earliest known strictures was that followers not engage in any sexual activity at all, because as any fule then new, armageddon was just waiting around the next corner waiting to get you dead.

    Christianity, please make up your mind over what rules you want us following, so as I can know what forbidden acts will stay forbidden.

    No, we've always been at war with eurasia


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    bluewolf wrote: »
    No, we've always been at war with eurasia

    Did you hear?
    The chocolate rations have been increased!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Did you hear?
    The chocolate rations have been increased!

    I love BB!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Victory Gins all round!

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    ninja900 wrote: »
    Victory Gins all round!
    Under the spreading chestnut tree
    I sold you and you sold me.
    There lie they, and here lie we
    Under the spreading chestnut tree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    God's plan for my atheist great grand uncle was to join the RAF in 1936, train as a medic, fight through WWII (learning Arabic and German on the way), participate in a hilarious plan to invade Turkey that was sadly shelved due to being stupid even by military standards, organise the destruction of Luftwaffe airfields in the Hamburg region, pass the exams to become a dental student but decline due to marriage to a ex Ministry of Info clerical worker so became a lumberjack in Canada instead. Suck at lumberjacking so become a heater sales man instead. Suck at that so apply for a job with BOAC as a steward. Eventually become chief steward on Concorde based in Manhattan where wife works on 5th Avenue. Retire in 1984 to build house in West Cork on land bought for thruppence ha'penny in the 50s (bought in east and north Cork too as God couldn't decide) where both still reside and amuse themselves by building interesting found object sculptures in their garden in between visits from nieces, grand-nieces, great-grand nephews and on occasion great-great-grand niece and nephew.

    God is such a b*stard.

    Such an eventful varied life! His surname wasn't Mitty was it? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Calibos wrote: »
    Such an eventful varied life! His surname wasn't Mitty was it? ;)

    Those are only some of the highlights.

    He had, and is still having, an amazing life.


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