toshiba Satellite L670D-10N _ RAM upgrade ?

JAMES VTI S

Hi

I bought this laptop and factory restored it and done ALL (200 almost) updates but it's BLOODY slow now :rolleyes:

toshiba Satellite L670D-10N



Will upgrading the RAM help ?

GarIT

Its unlikely, you have a 64 bit version of windows installed on a machine that is only really capable of running 32 bit windows. That's probably a big part of your slowdown.

JAMES VTI S

GarIT wrote: »

Its unlikely, you have a 64 bit version of windows installed on a machine that is only really capable of running 32 bit windows. That's probably a big part of your slowdown.

Hiw can I check

GarIT

JAMES VTI S wrote: »

Hiw can I check

Check if that's the cause? You can't really.

But that laptop isn't capable of running windows 7 home premium 64 bit which is what is installed on it.

JAMES VTI S

But is a 64 machine I thought

Johnboy1951

GarIT wrote: »

Its unlikely, you have a 64 bit version of windows installed on a machine that is only really capable of running 32 bit windows. That's probably a big part of your slowdown.

What?

Either the hardware is capable of handling 64 bit or it isn't.

If 64 bit is installed and working then yes it is capable!

GarIT

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

What?

Either the hardware is capable of handling 64 bit or it isn't.

If 64 bit is installed and working then yes it is capable!

I probably phrased that badly, it will run, but not at any decent pace. The processor is capable of executing 64 bit instructions but not fast.

You need 4GB of ram as a minimum in a 64 bit OS but i don't see the point on this machine, with the processor that's in it I'd stick to 32 bit.

Johnboy1951

GarIT wrote: »

I probably phrased that badly, it will run, but not at any decent pace. The processor is capable of executing 64 bit instructions but not fast.

You seem to imply that the processor will execute 32 bit instructions faster than 64 bit.
That would not be my experience.
I am not saying there is any great advantage in using a 64 bit over 32 bit in this situation, but more that I cannot see any advantage in changing the OS from 64 to 32.

You need 4GB of ram as a minimum in a 64 bit OS but i don't see the point on this machine, with the processor that's in it I'd stick to 32 bit.

That *might* be true of Win7 ..... I don't know .... but it is not true of other operating systems. It might be a small point in the context of this thread, but I can run a 64bit OS with 1GB ram (never tried any less). 2GB ram is comfortable. With 4GB ram on my main machine, I have never used even 2GB of it.
Apologies to OP for going off topic a bit.

GarIT

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

You seem to imply that the processor will execute 32 bit instructions faster than 64 bit.
That would not be my experience.
I am not saying there is any great advantage in using a 64 bit over 32 bit in this situation, but more that I cannot see any advantage in changing the OS from 64 to 32.



That *might* be true of Win7 ..... I don't know .... but it is not true of other operating systems. It might be a small point in the context of this thread, but I can run a 64bit OS with 1GB ram (never tried any less). 2GB ram is comfortable. With 4GB ram on my main machine, I have never used even 2GB of it.
Apologies to OP for going off topic a bit.

It mainly is a context issue, no 64 bit Windows will run decently without 4GB of ram, windows is also much harder on 64 bit processors for some reason. The problem here is that the processor is about as powerful atom processor you can check cpubenchmark for a comparison if you want. The processor is a budget processor that is now 4 years old, with the advancement in technology it wouldn't be useful for much more than a minimalist OS and web browsing.

Johnboy1951

GarIT wrote: »

It mainly is a context issue, no 64 bit Windows will run decently without 4GB of ram, windows is also much harder on 64 bit processors for some reason. The problem here is that the processor is about as powerful atom processor you can check cpubenchmark for a comparison if you want. The processor is a budget processor that is now 4 years old, with the advancement in technology it wouldn't be useful for much more than a minimalist OS and web browsing.

My wife's laptop is a Tosh with Celeron 925 @ 2.3Ghz running (at times) Win 7 64 bit.
It had 2GB ram until recently, when I added two more from a broken laptop.

I don't think she uses Windows anymore, and instead boots into PCLinuxOS.

All that aside ....

It seems from your reply that adding 2GB ram would benefit the existing Win install.
Of course it will never improve speed of CPU ..... and the general response will be slow I guess.

Depending on the intended use of the machine, I might be inclined to suggest a less resource hungry OS to get a better user experience.
That could be Win XP or Linux or .......

JAMES VTI S

XP is no more good to anyone, that's why i got this machine.

I turned the system on to performance mode and DL Ccleaner and ran it that has helped.



But the reason I think more RAM would help is seen about the memory i running high up the scale

Johnboy1951

JAMES VTI S wrote: »

XP is no more good to anyone, that's why i got this machine.

It is as good as it always was.
It hasn't suddenly become any worse than it was.

These two links might be of interest to you ..... XP updates to 2019 ......

http://www.zdnet.com/registry-hack-enables-continued-updates-for-windows-xp-7000029851/

http://betanews.com/2014/05/26/how-to-continue-getting-free-security-updates-for-windows-xp-until-2019/

JAMES VTI S

So how much would RAM cost me 2gb and how do I install it

slimjimmc

JAMES VTI S wrote: »

So how much would RAM cost me 2gb and how do I install it

According to Toshiba that model is supplied with 1 slots used and 1 slot free which means you may only need to buy 1 DRAM.
http://www.toshiba.ie/discontinued-products/satellite-l670d-10n/

€23 plus shipping for a single 2GB DDR3 http://eu.crucial.com/eur/en/compatible-memory-for/Toshiba/satellite-l670d-10n

To install you will need to remove a cover in the base of the laptop. Take precautions to reduce the risk of static electricity when handling the chips. Briefly touching the kitchen sink with your hand may help discharge any static built up on your body to earth.

JAMES VTI S

Iv fitted them before as i built dells but im talking about installing it