The Becky Lynch thread! **Spoilers**

Ape Lincoln

Definitely doing a jig

rovert

Pentecost wrote: »

Really happy for rovert and Becky. Been a long time coming for them. Everything I've read about her gives the impression she's really sound so best of luck Rebecca!

Becky's awesome. At one stage she developed a reputation of being a flake based on a podcast appearance were is was nervous and not media trained so she just talked the most random sh*te as us Irish can only do. She also cancelled a weekend's worth of shows for a UK Indy was a smart marks choice at the time at short notice as she decided she didn't want to Wrestle anymore. Both can be chalked down to being 18/9.

Personally I've never known anyone say a bad word about her. Her and her Wrestling is adored all over the World. Jessica Havok the top US female indy wrestler said Becky was one of the best in the business while Jessoca was watching NXT Takeover. Becky is 27 but she started so young and hit it big relatively that she is a cited influence on Women the same age of lower as her. Bailey (24) when she was on the Indies said Becky was an influence.

On the most basic level she is great to buzz off or if you bumped into her in Town it would make your day.

Pentecost

rovert wrote: »

Becky's awesome. At one stage she developed a reputation of being a flake based on a podcast appearance were is was nervous and not media trained so she just talked the most random sh*te as us Irish can only do. She also cancelled a weekend's worth of shows for a UK Indy was a smart marks choice at the time at short notice as she decided she didn't want to Wrestle anymore. Both can be chalked down to being 18/9.

Personally I've never known anyone say a bad word about her. Her and her Wrestling is adored all over the World. Jessica Havok the top US female indy wrestler said Becky was one of the best in the business while Jessoca was watching NXT Takeover. Becky is 27 but she started so young and hit it big relatively that she is a cited influence on Women the same age of lower as her. Bailey (24) when she was on the Indies said Becky was an influence.

On the most basic level she is great to buzz off or if you bumped into her in Town it would make your day.

Not being smart at all, but have you ever met her in person? Always admired her from afar as in being on here and reading reviews of what she could do as Rebecca Knox and seeing the odd pic of her and thinking "whoah", for want of a better phrase!

gnfnrhead

Is every NXT debut going to get this sort of treatment? Not sure how this counts as wrestling news.

Pentecost

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Is every NXT debut going to get this sort of treatment? Not sure how this counts as wrestling news.

Meh, she is Irish. Most NXT debuts do get mentioned in this thread at some point. rovert hearts Becky, it isn't hurting anyone

mrkiscool2

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Is every NXT debut going to get this sort of treatment? Not sure how this counts as wrestling news.

To be fair Becky is someone you should be very excited about getting a debut. f you thought Charlotte vs Natalya was something just wait until we get Becky v Charlotte. Actually, scratch that. Becky vs most of the girls in NXT.

Jerichoholic

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

Definitely doing a jig

Red hair, green tights, doing a jig...

Very creative.

rovert

Pentecost wrote: »

Not being smart at all, but have you ever met her in person?

Yes. Hung around with one of her brothers, through "the Wrestling" and we went to College together at one stage.

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Is every NXT debut going to get this sort of treatment? Not sure how this counts as wrestling news.

Wow? Seriously?

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Red hair, green tights, doing a jig...

Very creative.

Sorry Becky is SO Irish you not trading off it would be weird and swimming against the tide.

rovert

June 26th is the air date for her debut episode.

Tramps Like Us

More stereotypical yank irish bull****. A jig, ffs.

rovert

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

More stereotypical yank irish bull****. A jig, ffs.

Rebecca did this stuff on Indy shows in Ireland.

This isn't WWE's fault or anything like that. WWE ran through/wasted time with dozens and dozens characters for her from a businesswoman to a Genie. Ultimately they decided to let Becky be Becky. Stereotypes are stereotypes can often be true hence how they become stereotypes.

Bit of an out there example but Rebecca is kind of like 1993 era Doink The Clown went it was first played by Matt Bourne. A silly, frivolous type character that is juxtaposed by serious Wrestling talent. Save judgement until you see it has always worked really well.

Moneymaker

She's a talented girl and a good wrestler. Doesn't really matter what her gimmick is, her talent will shine through.

Mick Murdock

Only thing I could find on Youtube. Super cringe..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPu_CSHTSNU

Serious lack of imagination if ya ask me. I doubt she spends her spare time jigging about..

Moneymaker

What's cringy to us though, isn't to American viewers. They lap that **** up.

rovert

Mick Murdock wrote: »

I doubt she spends her spare time jigging about..

She was playing a bad dancer that was outclassed by Charlotte.

Mick Murdock

You said she's being herself rather than playing a character. I doubt slip jigging has anything to do with her real personality?

Ape Lincoln

If people are sensative to the diddley,diddley stereotypes then close your ears if you watch her Shimmer matches. During one of them someone in the crowd, along with shouting "come on Irish", heckles her by shouting IRA and the commentator calls her a pikey (she was playing a heel).

Mick Murdock

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

If people are sensative to the diddley,diddley stereotypes then close your ears if you watch her Shimmer matches. During one of them someone in the crowd, along with shouting "come on Irish", heckles her by shouting IRA and the commentator calls her a pikey (she was playing a heel).

IRA.. That's great!! I would think the same if it was a Scottish fella jumping about in a kilt or an English wrestler Morris Dancing.. It's not being sensitive it's just sh*t and has no shelf life at all. I don't believe any wrestling fan is entertained by Irish dancing, American or not.

rovert

Ok this thread is getting impossibly weird.

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

If people are sensative to the diddley,diddley stereotypes then close your ears if you watch her Shimmer matches. During one of them someone in the crowd, along with shouting "come on Irish", heckles her by shouting IRA and the commentator calls her a pikey (she was playing a heel).

Drunk fan says something stupid at an Indy show.

SHIMMER are the nicest crowds in Wrestling 99.999% of the time.

gnfnrhead

rovert wrote: »

Wow? Seriously?

If it was a main roster debut or signing then fair enough. But it's neither. It's NXT and someone we already knew was signed. Where is the news? Don't we have an NXT thread for this sort of stuff?

Lord TSC

I'd agree this isn't the thread for the discussion.

At the same time, I do think it's understandable there's an air of excitement over the debut of an Irish talent on an Irish message board. It's not like we get that very often...

rovert

gnfnrhead wrote: »

If it was a main roster debut or signing then fair enough. But it's neither. It's NXT and someone we already knew was signed. Where is the news? Don't we have an NXT thread for this sort of stuff?

It is bigger than a standard NXT debut. Also the spoiler rules are a bit of a mystery for me when it comes to NXT. I probably couldn't post pictures there either. Would have needed to post this or something:

"A

Diva

from

Ireland

debuted tonight."

:rolleyes:

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I'd agree this isn't the thread for the discussion.

At the same time, I do think it's understandable there's an air of excitement over the debut of an Irish talent on an Irish message board. It's not like we get that very often...

Didn't post it for discussion. I posted it for the reasons you said. Would have bothered my arse if I knew in advance where the thread would go.

Tramps Like Us

If it's her idea to do the stereotypical Irish rubbish then shame on her, it's stupid and won't last. I had felt sorry for her being lumped with a lame gimmick....

rovert

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

If it's her idea to do the stereotypical Irish rubbish then shame on her, it's stupid and won't last. I had felt sorry for her being lumped with a lame gimmick....

Reserve judgement until you see the match or watch her Indie work. She always played on the stereotype and threw it back at the Yanks to bait the crowd and get heel heat. She wasn't Sheamus at his worst.

Even IF she is the female Sheamus. Sheamus has done pretty well for himself and is strongly over.

Personally I couldn't give a toss if she was painted green as long as she gets to Wrestle weekly. She is legitimately one of the best non-Japanese female Wrestlers ever. You don't have to ask me or anyone Irish ask people who know her work the World over.

Bounty Hunter

Split from the News thread - This lady deserves her own thread afterall

rovert

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Split from the News thread - This lady deserves her own thread afterall

The Becklash already started on the first page. Great start :P

Lord TSC

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

If it's her idea to do the stereotypical Irish rubbish then shame on her, it's stupid and won't last. I had felt sorry for her being lumped with a lame gimmick....

Like it or not, it's the type of gimmick that WWE will love and that the American Audiences will respond positively too. She'll stand out from the crowd with it, rather than being Generic Diva #43543.

Diabhal Beag

"My name is Becky......and I love to fight."

rovert

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

"My name is Becky......and I love to fight."

Hope JBL talks about Becky fighting on Grafton St instead of Temple Bar as she is a Diva.

Mick Murdock

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Like it or not, it's the type of gimmick that WWE will love and that the American Audiences will respond positively too. She'll stand out from the crowd with it, rather than being Generic Diva #43543.

I don't see how it's any different to Emma waving her arms about. She can be the best wrestler in the world but she'll most likely get a 2 minute match here and there like the rest of them. The act is a joke, she won't be taken seriously doing that.

Sheamus isn't over at all. He has been doing a stale Oirish act for ages. I don't see why she will fare any better doing something even worse.

Hope she/they reconsiders.

Blue_Dabadee

We will never hear the end of it if she wins NXT women's or divas title. lol

rovert

Mick how much of "her act" have you seen?

Mick Murdock wrote: »

Sheamus isn't over at all.

Ok Mick whatever you say.

Ape Lincoln

Someone needs to upload one of Becky's Shimmer matches to Youtube or something.

rovert

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

Someone needs to upload one of Becky's Shimmer matches to Youtube or something.

They are watched like a hawk and taken down instantly.

Wished the reaction was closer to this rather the massive killjoying based on looking at PHOTOs:



Jordy goes to all the TV tapings and a lot of NXT live events.

A Primal Nut

rovert wrote: »

Reserve judgement until you see the match or watch her Indie work. She always played on the stereotype and threw it back at the Yanks to bait the crowd and get heel heat. She wasn't Sheamus at his worst.

Irish people are overly sensitive when it comes to stereotypes (e.g. people who get offended because Sheamus says fella) - her gimmick sounds like a bit of fun; and I like the idea of her overdoing the gimmick to really annoy the crowd and get heat.

Mick Murdock wrote: »

Sheamus isn't over at all.

You obviously weren't at the recent show in Dublin.

Mick Murdock wrote: »

He has been doing a stale Oirish act for ages.

Why because he speaks with an Irish accent? Would you prefer if he tried to put on a fake American accent? I like the fact he acts Irish - I'd be seriously annoyed if he didn't.

Mick Murdock

rovert wrote: »

Mick how much of "her act" have you seen?



Ok Mick whatever you say.

I have seen some clips on Youtube and little else. I'm taking the Irish jigging at face value like a lot of others here. Maybe I'm completely wrong and it's something innovative and ground breaking that I haven't seen. I look forward to seeing that. What are the quotations mark about? Should I have said gimmick? :cool:

As for Sheamus.. Not over is an exaggeration but his character is terribly stale and has been for a long time. His reactions have waned big time over the last year or so and he's nowhere close to what he was. I'm sure the heel turn will serve him well.

Moneymaker

He still gets good reactions though.

He'll get booed out of the building at Payback though. :pac:

rovert

Mick Murdock wrote: »

I have seen some clips on Youtube and little else. I'm taking the Irish jigging at face value like a lot of others here. Maybe I'm completely wrong and it's something innovative and ground breaking that I haven't seen. I look forward to seeing that. What are the quotations mark about? Should I have said gimmick? :cool:.

You are referring to her act as if you know it in totality. Things like the Irish jig are match opening comedy spots. She then moves on to amazing mat work - which in 2006 at least was seen as innovative and these ludicrous suplexes that you wouldn't expect from someone her size.

Mick Murdock wrote: »

As for Sheamus.. Not over is an exaggeration but his character is terribly stale and has been for a long time. His reactions have waned big time over the last year or so and he's nowhere close to what he was. I'm sure the heel turn will serve him well.

On Sheamus drop the baggage of how terrible his character was before his last injury and before. Start on day one with him today. He has toned down the Paddywhackery a lot. He is the most interesting he has been in and outside the ring with his feud with Cesaro.

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Irish people are overly sensitive when it comes to stereotypes (e.g. people who get offended because Sheamus says fella) - her gimmick sounds like a bit of fun; and I like the idea of her overdoing the gimmick to really annoy the crowd and get heat.

In fairness she is a babyface in NXT that was her heel gimmick in SHIMMER - a promotion based in Chicago a place that has an affinity for Irish people. In her debut match she came out as this smiley Irish person happy to be in America. She wrestled another babyface called Allison Danger. She was losing so she went down like a gazelle and it looked like she blew out her knee. So here you had this cute Irish girl in her first match hurt badly and sobbing loudly crying.

Officials from the back came out and picked her up her opponent opened the ropes and then Rebecca kicked her in the stomach and out to the ring floor. She them did an Irish jig on her "injured knee" cementing her heel turn. The crowd were PISSED.

WWE over did that spot to death at the time. Fit Finlay loved putting that in matches. But Rebecca did such a good job selling the knee and having sympathy as this fresh faced Irish girl from Ireland that the crowd bought it all.

Ape Lincoln

I kind of half bought the injury watching that match. At first I thought she had botched a move and improvised the injury. She did get decent heel heat in front of a crowd that can't have been more than 100-200 people.

Mick Murdock

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Irish people are overly sensitive when it comes to stereotypes (e.g. people who get offended because Sheamus says fella) - her gimmick sounds like a bit of fun; and I like the idea of her overdoing the gimmick to really annoy the crowd and get heat.



You obviously weren't at the recent show in Dublin.

Answered in previous reply, but Sheamus is over in Dublin? Hardly a surprise. I'm sure Drew McIntyre is over in Scotland too.



Why because he speaks with an Irish accent? Would you prefer if he tried to put on a fake American accent? I like the fact he acts Irish - I'd be seriously annoyed if he didn't.

I have no problem with fella. Not sure there's actually anything Irish about that anyway.

Again, the accent.. Why would I have an issue with that? It's one of his best attributes. I'm delighted he hasn't adopted an American twang like McDowell and Conor McGregor.. which is embarrassing.

Talking about foightin and going for pints after the match and other fiddly di stuff about bodhráns, potato matches and barnyards which the majority of the audience don't understand. It doesn't offend me, it's just embarrassingly bad television. He doesn't have the confidence to pull it off and doesn't seem comfortable doing it.

This is off topic so I'll leave it there.

rovert

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

I kind of half bought the injury watching that match. At first I thought she had botched a move and improvised the injury. She did get decent heel heat in front of a crowd that can't have been more than 100-200 people.

The commentary told a good story in that it was Allison Danger her opponent that had suggested Rebecca to the Shimmer office. Then Rebecca knives her in the back her first match in.

Mick Murdock

rovert wrote: »

You are referring to her act as if you know it in totality. Things like the Irish jig are match opening comedy spots. She then moves on to amazing mat work - which in 2006 at least was seen as innovative and these ludicrous suplexes that you wouldn't expect from someone her size.

Fair enough. I see what you are saying. I'll just have to wait and see. Contrary to how it might seem, I like to see Irish people do well and wish her luck.

On Sheamus drop the baggage of how terrible his character was before his last injury and before. Start on day one with him today. He has toned down the Paddywhackery a lot. He is the most interesting he has been in and outside the ring with his feud with Cesaro.

Also a fair point about Sheamo. I have enjoyed him a lot more recently, especially with Barrett and hopefully he continues with Cesaro after Sunday.

My quoting ability is quite poor. :P

DM_7

Great to see Becky got her NXT TV Debut.

After coming back to wrestling form time away and getting signed by WWE, it was still no sure thing for her although as Rovert pointed out she had the right background but it was still a massive risk (still is).

After the different gimmicks trialled and in the rosebuds it is a big deal for her to debut on NXT now its on the Network.

Look at how other talent were signed but ended up on a plane home quickly.

Fingers crossed it gets built upon in future tapings.

Moneymaker

If she gets time to wrestle and allowed to show what a good worker she is, she'll be fine imo.

rovert

Mick Murdock I mean no aggro I really don't. In general have a low tolerance for Paddywhackery. Not a fan of Paddies Day either. Just at least on the Indies Rebecca had a World tested act that was really well remembered and thought of.

The German based Wrestling website has most of her matches listed:
http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=2467&page=4&s=0

She went to England and (after she moved to Canada herself) Canada, USA, Japan and all over Europe over a 2 year span after her debut. That's kind unheard of. This was before Twitter and Facebook were big/took off in Ireland. Before Wrestling marketed itself on Youtube too. Under no illusions Rebecca hustled for bookings but the word of mouth about her was so palpable at the time. Wrestling forums were pretty much the only way fans communicated. It was really fun to track her journey with posts of "there was this Irish girl who name I didn't catch Rebecca something" "best match on the show" "she got a please come back chant" etc.

Whatever Paddywhackery she does or doesn't do she makes it work. It augmented everything she did not subtracted from it.

J. Marston

Would be very cool to see three Irish people on the main WWE roster.

Omackeral

J. Marston wrote: »

Would be very cool to see three Irish people on the main WWE roster.

Hornswoggle's not really Irish, J.

Bounty Hunter

Omackeral wrote: »

Hornswoggle's not really Irish, J.

I don't believe you, next you will be telling me Hulk Hogan ain't Irish, good Irish name that just like McMahon. There you are 2 Irish lads and the Irish lady, Hulk, Hornswaggle and Steph




Assume they will recognise the links between Becky and Fergal when he arrives at least on NXT, seems like the kinda thing Regal and co on commentary would find it hard not to mention

rovert

I need to make an amendment to the method of victory in her TV debut. Becky won via hitting a legdrop AFTER the exploder suplex:



Hulk Hogan despite his real life Italian heritage he was conceived as an Irish babyface.

rovert

The most practiced match ever finally made the cameras at tonight's NXT taping:

DjembaDjemba

Wow she is a cool gal.

Sheamus does need a throwaway stereotypical "begorrah", heel manager for his upcoming repackage after all.

Shes no Kelly Kelly in the looks department thats for sure.