Fracking announced for Belcoo

Autonomous Cowherd

Tamboran have announced that they are to drill a shale gas well in the old quarry in Belcoo, just across the river from Blacklion, Co Cavan.
Details here...just spreading the word. Do not sit on the fence.
https://thegasmancometh.wordpress.com/

wendell borton

Say goodbye to community togetherness Belcoo. These resource companies always seem to use a divide and conquer policy towards the communities they set up in.

Ruu

Frack sake!

theKillerBite

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Tamboran have announced that they are to drill a shale gas well in the old quarry in Belcoo, just across the river from Blacklion, Co Leitrim.

About time

Celly Smunt

What is worse, the fracking or the hippies the fracking will attract?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

About time. We need a domestic source of fuel. If we don't tap the resources in Leitrim it will just be drilled for from the Northern side anyway.

Duckworth_Luas

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

darkpagandeath

Maybe this is what happens when you start screaming about wind farms and using other means to generate power I know witch one I would rather have in my area...

Autonomous Cowherd

wendell borton wrote: »

Say goodbye to community togetherness Belcoo. These resource companies always seem to use a divide and conquer policy towards the communities they set up in.

The vast majority here seem either vehemently opposed or of the can't be bothered to think variety.
the fact is one only has to look at externals like vast road networks cutting swathes through rural communities, the factual increase experienced in other parts of the world of sexual violence and drug culture as migrant labour is shipped in to operate these wells, (not to mention the vast evidence that exists of contamination of water table and increase in seismic activity) to be opposed. but some will sit on the fence anyways and look on as the government gives away their mother earth to this savagery.
i will be away for weekend and plugged out..so i was just passing on the word. Get ready.

theKillerBite

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

The vast majority here seem either vehemently opposed or of the can't be bothered to think variety.
the fact is one only has to look at externals like vast road networks cutting swathes through rural communities, the factual increase experienced in other parts of the world of sexual violence and drug culture as migrant labour is shipped in to operate these wells, (not to mention the vast evidence that exists of contamination of water table and increase in seismic activity) to be opposed. but some will sit on the fence anyways and look on as the government gives away their mother earth to this savagery.
i will be away for weekend and plugged out..so i was just passing on the word. Get ready.

LOL

AnonoBoy

Fracking.


There goes the neighbourhood, town, county.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Your concern is that those working at the drilling will bring sexual violence and drug abuse? Oh sweet lord!

Mr_Red

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Tamboran have announced that they are to drill a shale gas well in the old quarry in Belcoo, just across the river from Blacklion, Co Leitrim.
Details here...just spreading the word. Do not sit on the fence.

You see..... no one gives a toss about what happens in Co Leitrim.

I believe they do human experiments in Co Leitrim

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Fracking.


There goes the neighbourhood, town, county.

But it's only Leitrim!

Autonomous Cowherd

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

Your concern is that those working at the drilling will bring sexual violence and drug abuse? Oh sweet lord!

No. It is one of the consequences proven elsewhere. Google it for those who are amusing themselves with the idea. it is the least of my concerns personally when |i think of the environmental degradation but go ahead and laugh. it is a factual consequence in US neighbourhoods. Wow im pretty amazed at the level of assholism on this board..now I'm ''lol''ing

wendell borton

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

About time. We need a domestic source of fuel. If we don't tap the resources in Leitrim it will just be drilled for from the Northern side anyway.

We have plenty of resources without resorting to putting the greater resource that is the Shannon at risk. Agriculture is our biggest industry that was many waste products that can be used to produce energy.

darkpagandeath

wendell borton wrote: »

We have plenty of resources without resorting to putting the greater resource that is the Shannon at risk. Agriculture is our biggest industry that was many waste products that can be used to produce energy.

Ah I see and of these what ones are commercially viable ?

Mr. CooL ICE

What is fracking? Is that the one that fills our rivers with oestrogen?

Mint Sauce

Mr_Red wrote: »

You see..... no one gives a toss about what happens in Co Leitrim.

I believe they do human experiments in Co Leitrim

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

But it's only Leitrim!

Belcoo is in Fermanagh. Which the county them selves are also generally against fracking.

darkpagandeath

LordChessington wrote: »

What is fracking? Is that the one that fills our rivers with oestrogen?

No No tis the one that puts fluoride, Anti depressants so on so forth

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

No. It is one of the consequences proven elsewhere. Google it for those who are amusing themselves with the idea. it is the least of my concerns personally when |i think of the environmental degradation but go ahead and laugh. it is a factual consequence in US neighbourhoods. Wow im pretty amazed at the level of assholism on this board..now I'm ''lol''ing

You do realise that this story all started with a website called Vice who also ran stories that Nigerians are injecting themselves with a cream to make them white, that Catholics go for exorcism for healing rather than to doctors, that a guy ate his own hip as art...
You might want to get some credible sources.

ajjmk

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

But it's only Leitrim!

This opinion really boils my blood, "Oh, it's only Leitrim".
Leitrim is one of the most beautiful, unspoiled counties in Ireland, and relies heavily on tourism to bring money and employment into the locality.
Not only is fracking extremely dangerous to the environment (wrt the chemicals used during the extraction process), but it is also an extremely unsightly process.

I can't see tourists travelling to see the extraction rigs of Leitrim

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Belcoo is in Fermanagh. Which the county them selves are also generally against fracking.

The town land is in Leitrim as well. Hence the planning application is for Belcoo Leitrim.

hadoken13

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

No. It is one of the consequences proven elsewhere. Google it for those who are amusing themselves with the idea. it is the least of my concerns personally when |i think of the environmental degradation but go ahead and laugh. it is a factual consequence in US neighbourhoods. Wow im pretty amazed at the level of assholism on this board..now I'm ''lol''ing

Seriously? Google results with less than creditable news sources - anyone could write and do write these articles. I read a National Geographic article on Fracking in the US and there was no mention of this.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

ajjmk wrote: »

This opinion really boils my blood, "Oh, it's only Leitrim".
Leitrim is one of the most beautiful, unspoiled counties in Ireland, and relies heavily on tourism to bring money and employment into the locality.
Not only is fracking extremely dangerous to the environment (wrt the chemicals used during the extraction process), but it is also an extremely unsightly process.

I can't see tourists travelling to see the extraction rigs of Leitrim

Sarcasm radar broken is it?

Autonomous Cowherd

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

You do realise that this story all started with a website called Vice who also ran stories that Nigerians are injecting themselves with a cream to make them white, that Catholics go for exorcism for healing rather than to doctors, that a guy ate his own hip as art...
You might want to get some credible sources.

Uhm, actually if you have log in facilities at Tamboran's own web site it is there. And as for Vice being disreputable, I cannot say so. I am only a tad familiar with their work, but I have seen some good journalism there. if you want your news cut up into small digestible pieces by the main stream media and insist on denigrating anything that is a bit beyond your ken or zone of comfort then by all means soak up the so-called news you are drip fed as ''truth''. Though those stories sound silly that you have quoted, as far as i know they are actually true..hahah...people are kerrazy out there...lol.

theKillerBite

ajjmk wrote: »

I can't see tourists travelling to see the extraction rigs of Leitrim

They'll go for the sex and drugs the fracking will bring

Autonomous Cowherd

theKillerBite wrote: »

They'll go for the sex and drugs the fracking will bring

Actually i think i will ask a Mod to close this thread if that's possible. The level of stupidity here is too high. Go back to sleep.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Though those stories sound silly that you have quoted, as far as i know they are actually true..hahah...people are kerrazy out there...lol.

Oh people are crazy alright.

It's deciding which ones they are is the problem.

md23040

ajjmk wrote: »

This opinion really boils my blood, "Oh, it's only Leitrim".
Leitrim is one of the most beautiful, unspoiled counties in Ireland, and relies heavily on tourism to bring money and employment into the locality.
Not only is fracking extremely dangerous to the environment (wrt the chemicals used during the extraction process), but it is also an extremely unsightly process.

I can't see tourists travelling to see the extraction rigs of Leitrim

There's plenty of space and bugger all people - frack away, as long as it efficiently taps natural resources, complies with EU regulations and provides tax revenue. It hasn't done America's tourist industry any harm, and it's a country that has become energy independent because of it, and soon will be an exporter through LNG port terminals.

Should it lead to gas at half its current price, like in Uncle Sam compared to Europe, then tear away - better than relying on Russians and Arabs with their unstable situations/supply/price hikes.

Santa Cruz

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

The vast majority here seem either vehemently opposed or of the can't be bothered to think variety.
the fact is one only has to look at externals like vast road networks cutting swathes through rural communities, the factual increase experienced in other parts of the world of sexual violence and drug culture as migrant labour is shipped in to operate these wells, (not to mention the vast evidence that exists of contamination of water table and increase in seismic activity) to be opposed. but some will sit on the fence anyways and look on as the government gives away their mother earth to this savagery.
i will be away for weekend and plugged out..so i was just passing on the word. Get ready.

It's not exactly a Garth Brooks concert

BBJBIG

Well Look ... What a Surprise !!!

D'Oirish are now Debt Slaves and Oireland is being sold off to the Foreinners bit-by-bit.
As well as that, Population displacement via immigration of foreinn scab labour from
3rd wurld countries.

So ... Frack On ... who gives a Fluck anymore ...

lightspeed

Can we not replace this fracking business with Nuclear power?

No one wants nuclear power but it is far more efficient than other power sources.

We dont get regular tsunamis like Japan and others countries like France get by with Nuclear power without any problems.

We tried wind power and there was huge opposition from locals as noone wants to live next to a big noisy farm of windmills.

Other renewable energy sources are just not cost efficient to implement.

ajjmk

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

Sarcasm radar broken is it?

You may have been saying it sarcastically, and I'm sorry for snapping at you, but I've met so many people who genuinely have that opinion. They feel like it's okay introduce something controversial to an area if it has a low population.

Autonomous Cowherd

md23040 wrote: »

There's plenty of space and bugger all people - frack away, as long as it efficiently taps natural resources, complies with EU regulations and provides tax revenue. It hasn't done America's tourist industry any harm, and it's a country that has become energy independent because of it, and soon will be an exporter through LNG port terminals.

Should it lead to gas at half its current price, like in Uncle Sam compared to Europe, then tear away - better than relying on Russians and Arabs with their unstable situations/supply/price hikes.

Gosh, you sound sensible. Pity it doesn't translate into reality. The tax revenue we (ie our trousering government) get will be pretty small compared to the overall ''haul''; there is loads of evidence of regulations being ignored and broken by shale gas companies worldwide, some countries in the EU are banning fracking because of its proven health and environmental costs, I happen to be in daily contact with a real-estate agent in oklahoma in an area where 7 out of 10 of the houses are for sale but cannot be sold because their tap water is undrinkable due to fracking contamination. Parts of the US have been left destroyed by fracking and we are a very small country land mass wise, so guess what it might just take a bit longer to bite YOU in the ass than us here, but bite you it will if it goes aead.

JohnFalstaff

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

About time. We need a domestic source of fuel. If we don't tap the resources in Leitrim it will just be drilled for from the Northern side anyway.

They drink our milkshake?

theKillerBite

I heard wind turbines is the leading cause of homelessness and coal burning is making people addicted to heroin.

darkpagandeath

lightspeed wrote: »

Can we not replace this fracking business with Nuclear power?

No one wants nuclear power but it is far more efficient than other power sources.

We dont get regular tsunamis like Japan and others countries like France get by with Nuclear power without any problems.

We tried wind power and there was huge opposition from locals as noone wants to live next to a big noisy farm of windmills.

Other renewable energy sources are just not cost efficient to implement.

1. Nuclear is Illegal here no government will touch it with a barge pole.

2. These people have problems with wind farms and pylons can you imagine them being happy with a nuclear power station near them.

md23040

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Gosh, you sound sensible. Pity it doesn't translate into reality. The tax revenue we (ie our trousering government) get will be pretty small compared to the overall ''haul''; there is loads of evidence of regulations being ignored and broken by shale gas companies worldwide, some countries in the EU are banning fracking because of its proven health and environmental costs, I happen to be in daily contact with a real-estate agent in oklahoma in an area where 7 out of 10 of the houses are for sale but cannot be sold because their tap water is undrinkable due to fracking contamination. Parts of the US have been left destroyed by fracking and we are a very small country land mass wise, so guess what it might just take a bit longer to bite YOU in the ass than us here, but bite you it will if it goes aead.

I couldnt give a rats ass if it turned some small area of some county into a sand pit as long as it could pay down the €177billion of national debt and half the energy costs.

These industries are heavily regulated within the EU and there will always be NIMBISM and environmental fanatics who cannot be satisifed.

Mint Sauce

Jensen Raspy Switch wrote: »

The town land is in Leitrim as well. Hence the planning application is for Belcoo Leitrim.

Which townland are we or the suspect article referring to, as Belcoo is I repeat NOT in Leitrim, Belcoo Quarry is NOT in Leitrim, and is even further from the border and Leitrim than the village of of Belcoo is.

I understand that fracking in Belcoo will also affect parts of Leitrim giving it close proximity, and the Shannon waterways as its linked to the Erne River, but everyone is reading this thread as it only effecting and being in Leitrim, due to the misleading information from both the OP and the article.

Autonomous Cowherd

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Which townland are we or the suspect article referring to, as Belcoo is I repeat NOT in Leitrim, Belcoo Quarry is NOT in Leitrim, and is even further from the border and Leitrim than the village of of Belcoo is.

I understand that fracking in Belcoo will also affect parts of Leitrim giving it close proximity, and the Shannon waterways as its linked to the Erne River, but everyone is reading this thread as it only effecting and being in Leitrim, due to the misleading information from both the OP and the article.

Well I certainly did not intend to mislead and take the opportunity to correct myself. There is the whole length of a bridge separating Belcoo on the Fermanagh side and Blacklion on the Cavan side...and a wee river that runs beneath the bridge to keep back the nastiness of fracking.

wendell borton

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah I see and of these what ones are commercially viable ?

There are currently six factories using waste products to produce bio gas, with more in the pipeline.

http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/2013/1943/BarryCaslin.pdf

darkpagandeath

wendell borton wrote: »

There are currently six factories using waste products to produce bio gas, with more in the pipeline.

http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/2013/1943/BarryCaslin.pdf

You did not answer the question, And these will be massively subsidised making the power they produce prohibitively expensive

Lenin Skynard

md23040 wrote: »

I couldnt give a rats ass if it turned some small area of some county into a sand pit as long as it could pay down the €177billion of national debt.

Jesus. How much of the country would you turn into a wasteland for the sake of servicing a debt? If we've no country left then we've no place from which to generate debts. Or maybe that's the ideal outcome for you? Thank fúck that yours isn't a widespread view.

artful_codger

The locals will have to shift their sabotage activities from Quinns old businnesses to the Fracking sites.

md23040

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Jesus. How much of the country would you turn into a wasteland for the sake of servicing a debt? If we've no country left then we've no place from which to generate debts. Or maybe that's the ideal outcome for you? Thank fúck that yours isn't a widespread view.

At €8 billion interest per year paid by Ireland on debt, coupled with should Russia cut the taps to EU gas supply and opt instead with recent deal to China, will see energy prices soar througout the EU, and these considerations should be enough impetus to consider any viable energy options.

Also it would take a many many lifetimes to cover Ireland is so called wastelands – as usual taking a post out of context, twisting it into something surreal and serving back in a platter. Fracking sites are typically no bigger than quarries and this site (if it is to be believed) is being explored in a former quarry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i9EMUyxp0E1g.jpg

SEPT 23 1989

please please please let it be QUADRILLA coming over

the most evil anti green sounding company name ever evented:D

circadian

This'll be some craic in 5 or so years.

Parts of Alberta are an absolute mess because of fracking.

Tardful Slakerly

Bad news, all the more so as Ireland managed to avoid massive industrialization and so is relatively clean of pollutants in soil and water, with only nitrates being much of an issue in places. I've read nothing but poor reports on fracking, from many sources.

Autonomous Cowherd

md23040 wrote: »

At €8 billion interest per year paid by Ireland on debt, coupled with should Russia cut the taps to EU gas supply and opt instead with recent deal to China, will see energy prices soar througout the EU, and these considerations should be enough impetus to consider any viable energy options.

Also it would take a many many lifetimes to cover Ireland is so called wastelands – as usual taking a post out of context, twisting it into something surreal and serving back in a platter. Fracking sites are typically no bigger than quarries and this site (if it is to be believed) is being explored in a former quarry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i9EMUyxp0E1g.jpg

To imagine that a frack site's area of influence is confined to the drill well is like imagining that a substance injected into the body only remains at the injection site. Cop on would ya! There is a whole water table and geological
substratum at play here that is interconnected with ...well actually..the whole of the island ultimately. You think they put down plastic boundaries or something, to keep everything contained...?

md23040

circadian wrote: »

This'll be some craic in 5 or so years.

Parts of Alberta are an absolute mess because of fracking.

That oils extraction from sands. Completely different.