Mixing Powerline adapters

Mumha

I've five netgear powerline adapters and am having problems with them. I was wondering if I could replace a couple of them with TP Link adapters, and will they work with the Netgear ones ?

degsie

Mumha wrote: »

I've five netgear powerline adapters and am having problems with them. I was wondering if I could replace a couple of them with TP Link adapters, and will they work with the Netgear ones ?

If they are the same speed then yes, the standard states they will work. Generally 200/500(Mb/s) will interoperate while the 85Mb/s will not.

Mumha

Thanks, Degsie.

Mumha

One other question, when I press the security button for two seconds, on the adapter by the router, do I press all other 4 adapters within the 2 minute window ? I did that last night and only one appears to be working now.

ElNino

Mumha wrote: »

One other question, when I press the security button for two seconds, on the adapter by the router, do I press all other 4 adapters within the 2 minute window ? I did that last night and only one appears to be working now.

Don't you have to press the first one for something like 5 to 7 seconds and then 2 seconds for all the others within 2 minutes?

Cuddlesworth

Pairing them creates encrypted links. If your living in 99.9% of property's in Ireland, there should be no need to encrypt them. Its puts added stress on the adapters and reduces the link speed.

Mumha

ElNino wrote: »

Don't you have to press the first one for something like 5 to 7 seconds and then 2 seconds for all the others within 2 minutes?

I think that's to do with WPS ?

Mumha

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Pairing them creates encrypted links. If your living in 99.9% of property's in Ireland, there should be no need to encrypt them. Its puts added stress on the adapters and reduces the link speed.

Fair enough, thanks. However the router is not recognising some of them i.e. it doesn't see them, so I'm not sure where I can go with these other than thinking they're bust. They were working not so long ago.

long_b

I had issues when I went from 4 to 5 home plugs - IIRC they were 3 different models from 2 manufacturers.
Reduced back down to 4 and they're working fine now.
Didn't have to press the sync button on most of them, they just worked when I plugged them in.

Mumha wrote: »

However the router is not recognising some of them i.e. it doesn't see them, so I'm not sure where I can go with these other than thinking they're bust.

Not sure what you mean here. They should be transparent to the router I would have thought ?

Mumha

long_b wrote: »

I had issues when I went from 4 to 5 home plugs - IIRC they were 3 different models from 2 manufacturers.
Reduced back down to 4 and they're working fine now.
Didn't have to press the sync button on most of them, they just worked when I plugged them in.



Not sure what you mean here. They should be transparent to the router I would have thought ?

Hi, what I mean is that when I plug them in, and connect the Ethernet cable, there's no internet coming through.

long_b

Mumha wrote: »

Hi, what I mean is that when I plug them in, and connect the Ethernet cable, there's no internet coming through.

Do any of the LEDs light up ? Apart from the power one ?
Are you plugging them directly into a wall socket ?

degsie

Mumha wrote: »

I think that's to do with WPS ?

WPS is to do with WiFi, the buttons on ethernet homeplugs are for 'pairing' purposes.

Mumha

long_b wrote: »

Do any of the LEDs light up ? Apart from the power one ?
Are you plugging them directly into a wall socket ?

The Ethernet LED light does light up but the local area connection is saying Public Network and No Internet Access.

amdaley28

Hi Mumha.
Do the following.
Plug the first adapter into the socket near your router.
Connect your router to this adapter.
Now plug the second adapter into the nearest socket you be using.
They should link automatically.

If they don't do the following.
Press the pair button on the adapter connected to the router for 1 second.
Within 2 minutes press the pair button on the second adapter for 1 second.
In about 60 seconds you will see the powerline led (looks like a house) on both adapters light up,indicating that the two adapters have interconnected with each other successfully.

To add a 3rd adapter plug it into the socket you wish to use for that adapter.
Press the pair button on the adapter connected to the router & the pair button on the 3rd adapter again for 1 second each as before. Leave the 2nd adapter alone as its already paired.
Do this for every adapter you wish to add to your system. The pair button of the adapter connected to the router & the pair button of the adapter you have just plugged in.

Plug each adapter into a wall socket not an extension lead and make sure they are all on the same ESB meter.

Johnboy1951

If unplugged or if they lose power for a few minutes, do they retain their settings (paired) or does one have to go through the procedure on all of them again after power is restored?

Thanks.

niallb

@amdaleys procedure is exactly how I add sockets to my network.
If you've ever used the button on one of your adapters, you'll need to pair new ones to use the same key.

degsie

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

If unplugged or if they lose power for a few minutes, do they retain their settings (paired) or does one have to go through the procedure on all of them again after power is restored?

Thanks.

They should retain all their settings.

Mumha

amdaley28 wrote: »

Hi Mumha.
Do the following.
Plug the first adapter into the socket near your router.
Connect your router to this adapter.
Now plug the second adapter into the nearest socket you be using.
They should link automatically.

If they don't do the following.
Press the pair button on the adapter connected to the router for 1 second.
Within 2 minutes press the pair button on the second adapter for 1 second.
In about 60 seconds you will see the powerline led (looks like a house) on both adapters light up,indicating that the two adapters have interconnected with each other successfully.

To add a 3rd adapter plug it into the socket you wish to use for that adapter.
Press the pair button on the adapter connected to the router & the pair button on the 3rd adapter again for 1 second each as before. Leave the 2nd adapter alone as its already paired.
Do this for every adapter you wish to add to your system. The pair button of the adapter connected to the router & the pair button of the adapter you have just plugged in.

Plug each adapter into a wall socket not an extension lead and make sure they are all on the same ESB meter.

Thanks, amdaley. I went through all that but with only limited success, so what I then did was to take all the adapters up to the attic to where the router was located and did a factory reset on all of them, and each one connected to the internet through the LAN without a problem. Even the wireless worked fine with the wifi extender.

Then I came back downstairs and connected my Ethernet cable from one of the adapters to my laptop and it doesn't work ! It comes up as Unidentified network, No Internet Access. Not sure where to go with it now. At least the wifi is working ....

Cuddlesworth

Mumha wrote: »

Thanks, amdaley. I went through all that but with only limited success, so what I then did was to take all the adapters up to the attic to where the router was located and did a factory reset on all of them, and each one connected to the internet through the LAN without a problem. Even the wireless worked fine with the wifi extender.

Then I came back downstairs and connected my Ethernet cable from one of the adapters to my laptop and it doesn't work ! It comes up as Unidentified network, No Internet Access. Not sure where to go with it now. At least the wifi is working ....

Did it ever work from the attic to the rest of the house?

Its possible that your attic was wired with a completely independant fuseboard.

Mumha

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Did it ever work from the attic to the rest of the house?

Its possible that your attic was wired with a completely independant fuseboard.

We have only one fuseboard. I have a smart tv in the tv room and there's an Ethernet cable connecting the adapter in there to the tv, and that works now.

Where my office is, is the newer part of the house, though I'm pretty sure that the lan did work in there before. What I think I need to do next is that put the adapter from here into the tv room socket and connect it to my laptop, which will show me if it is the unit or the laptop. I'll be back !