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Slatted shed plans

  • 21-05-2014 9:30pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22


    Hi ,I'm thinking of building a slatted shed and was wondering what type plans do I need to submit for planning, I got a few plans on a4 size sheets or will I have to get them drawn up by a pro , or would it be possible to use plans by someone else just to change the name and address ? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    dminor123 wrote: »
    Hi ,I'm thinking of building a slatted shed and was wondering what type plans do I need to submit for planning, I got a few plans on a4 size sheets or will I have to get them drawn up by a pro , or would it be possible to use plans by someone else just to change the name and address ? Thanks

    you don't need them done up specially, just find a set of plans identical to what your building and photocopy them a3 and bobs your uncle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Vandy West


    You will need a site layout plan and a site location map also. If your in any hurry you should get help because if everything is not right they love to ask for further information. If you don't mind it dragging out a bit you may get away with drawing it up yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    here is a recent one on Mayo coco that was granted, just view related documents to see all the documents submitted. The plans and site layout submitted would have the name of the person who made the plans on them and as such the design belongs to them.

    http://www.mayococo.ie/PlanSearch/mcc4/PlanningViewer/displayafile.asp?filenum=14139&la=1

    I learnt to use the free version of this program and did planning drawings myself on the pc and them found a place in Galway to print off the plans and site layout on large pieces of paper (got the maps from OSI as a planning pack), after studying other planning applications in my area. (it did take a bit of time though).

    http://www.cadstd.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    Vandy West wrote: »
    You will need a site layout plan and a site location map also. If your in any hurry you should get help because if everything is not right they love to ask for further information. If you don't mind it dragging out a bit you may get away with drawing it up yourself.

    nearly all planning apps come back on further information these days, you are as well to fire in an application and let them tell you what you need

    but first you should check if the shed would be an exempted development from planning

    a 3 bay double statted shed if under or close to 200 sqm doesn't require planning , there are guidelines depending on each county so I cannot speak for them all.

    ring your council and get them to email you the conditions for farm buildings that don't require planning before you waste your time at anything else !!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    nearly all planning apps come back on further information these days, you are as well to fire in an application and let them tell you what you need

    but first you should check if the shed would be an exempted development from planning

    a 3 bay double statted shed if under or close to 200 sqm doesn't require planning , there are guidelines depending on each county so I cannot speak for them all.

    ring your council and get them to email you the conditions for farm buildings that don't require planning before you waste your time at anything else !!!!!

    To add to that: all councils do pre planning clinics with the planners, well worth attending one to make sure of the details needed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    nearly all planning apps come back on further information these days, you are as well to fire in an application and let them tell you what you need

    but first you should check if the shed would be an exempted development from planning

    a 3 bay double statted shed if under or close to 200 sqm doesn't require planning , there are guidelines depending on each county so I cannot speak for them all.

    ring your council and get them to email you the conditions for farm buildings that don't require planning before you waste your time at anything else !!!!!

    you need to check the regulations. Here is a good FAQ from Kildare Co.co

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/media/Exempted%20Development%20FAQ's.pdf

    Pg 7 refers to agri but its not the full regs and pg 1 refers to how it might not be exempt i.e if its a protected area like SAC or national monument

    This is the full regulations http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,8797,en.pdf

    Pg 190 has full exemptions for agri but it must be read in conjunction with article 9 (bottom of pg 11) restrictions on exemptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    marzic wrote: »
    you need to check the regulations. Here is a good FAQ from Kildare Co.co

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/media/Exempted%20Development%20FAQ's.pdf

    Pg 7 refers to agri but its not the full regs and pg 1 refers to how it might not be exempt i.e if its a protected area like SAC or national monument

    This is the full regulations http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,8797,en.pdf

    Pg 190 has full exemptions for agri but it must be read in conjunction with article 9 (bottom of pg 11) restrictions on exemptions.



    don't post something from any county council website,

    let the op get the information from whatever local authority he is in, they are all slightly different

    just in case he might read that and think he's fine to start building away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 dminor123


    Thanks lads , I have a clearer idea of what's needed now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    don't post something from any county council website,

    let the op get the information from whatever local authority he is in, they are all slightly different

    just in case he might read that and think he's fine to start building away

    The regulations are the same for the whole country, they are not bye-laws different in each council. The link to kildare is a good example of FAQ's, and I've seen most of them. If you had read my post properly you would see that the OP is advised that restrictions apply to any exemption, and the full regs are on the other link so he/she could see the exhaustive info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Rabbo


    I submit planning applications for a living and I can tell you that agricultural applications are generally more complex than, say a domestic application.
    Some of the documentation you will need to submit (6 copies):
    • Completed application form
    • Copy of press notice
    • Copy of site notice
    • Marked ordinance survey maps indicating site and landholding boundary (with licence stickers - not legal to photocopy)
    • Scaled plans, elevations and section of building (not smaller than 1:200)
    • Scaled site layout (not smaller than 1:500) including proposed building, levels taken in relation to public road, dimensions, location of site notices, layout of existing and proposed clean and dirty water lines, all farm buildings, tanks, structures, etc.
    • Schedule of farm buildings and structures including their uses, slatted tank sizes, no animals etc.
    • Correct fee

    If any one of those is submitted incorrectly, the council can send your entire application back and you may need to republish press notice if outside 2 week period.


    I might be biased but I would advise to get a pro in to take care of it. Ive seen people take 5 or 6 attempts at trying to get an application validated before succeeding. And thats all before the planners will even look at the application


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 dminor123


    I think you are right , what's the going rate /fee for a pro to look after a job (3 bay slatted shed) like this,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    dminor123 wrote: »
    I think you are right , what's the going rate /fee for a pro to look after a job (3 bay slatted shed) like this,

    IMO You should at least establish if you actually need planning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 dminor123


    Well I plan on spending 50k on this project , I will qualify for the 40% organic grant which will be 20k and I will put in the other 30 myself , I want to try and get the most I can for my money as regards a finished shed, will the shed be under 200m square for this money or will I be able to go bigger which will result in planning being required ?


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