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why shouldnt garda cars be nct'd?

  • 21-05-2014 12:36am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭


    I know that they don't have to be but why? Those cars are on the road a lot more than regular cars, they carry passengers and people who are in distress,drunk ect.. I mean who's to say their not driving death traps around? (and from what I hear they are)

    Surely they should set an example for the rest of us and get them tested. Why is it ok for them to drive a dangerous car but not for the rest of the public.



    Before anyone asks my car is currently nct'd.....


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    I'd personally be more concerned with the fact they quite often drive branch cars while nattering away on a phone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    In Soviet Russia Police Car NCT YOU!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Bit awkward at the checkpoint if the gardas car has a more out of date Nct then your own I would imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Garda vehicles are brought to main dealers for servicing. Main dealers are not the kind to overlook the chance to make some money so you can be reasonably reassured that they are in ok nick. The same with tyres, they are fitted with good brands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Who'd enforce it? You gonna drag the cop out of his nct-less car and perform a citizens arrest, until another cop comes along and arrests him? Or just ring the police and report him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,810 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Garda cars are actually quite well maintained, you don't get the mileage the guards get out of a car unless it's looked after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    ^What milage do they typically get .Lots of them look quite bashed up body wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    It's got a cop motor, a four hundred and forty cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks, it's a model made before catalytic converters, so it'll run good on regular gas
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭shteve


    .

    and a broken cigarette lighter... :P :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Garda vehicles are brought to main dealers for servicing. Main dealers are not the kind to overlook the chance to make some money so you can be reasonably reassured that they are in ok nick. The same with tyres, they are fitted with good brands.

    Using that logic, many private car owners should be able to bring their service records to the NCT Centre and just pick up a disc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    They run them until they hit 300,000km, I believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    nct's are the least of their problems

    did they ever discover which one was the thief or are they all at it?stealing evidence is a crime, you wouldn't steal a car, you wouldn't download an illegal movies

    don't dip your hands in to the money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    ryan101 wrote: »
    In Soviet Russia Police Car NCT YOU!

    In Putin Russia, car drive to another country and try to establish dealership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Garda cars aren't NCT'd? You mean legally exempt or habitually?

    First I have heard of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    All those skids in garbage strewn alleyways and perp apprehension across the bonnets must take its toll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    ryan101 wrote: »
    Donuts. mmmmmmm.

    Doughnuts. ;):pac:


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anncoates wrote: »
    All those skids in garbage strewn alleyways and perp apprehension across the bonnets must take its toll.

    Or chasing a car into a goal net. The good ole days, when real men didn't wear seat-belts, there was no such thing as an innocent bystander, and NCT's were for sissies.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    Sure why bother with an NCT on a Garda car when most of them that drive them don't even have a full license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,194 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Oi!! I'll 'ave that git round your manor, guv'nor!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It's probably not worth starting a thread on this but as I sit here with my breakfast it occurs to me that there is a strange usurpation of the designation of doughnuts/donuts happening these days. I have an cream eclair here and the box says they're "donuts" but when I google images of doughnuts/donuts I get pictures of the normal round cake type thingy with the hole in the middle and the icing on top, but not a picture of an eclair, the proper picture of an eclair comes up when I google "eclair" so I'm left in the perplexing situation of having an eclair which is called a doughnut. Maybe the bakery needs to be informed of this?

    As for NCT's for the po-po cars? Isn't this the case for all state-owned cars, I think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Sure why bother with an NCT on a Garda car when most of them that drive them don't even have a full license.

    Wow that is a serious statement. Care to back it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,194 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Wow that is a serious statement. Care to back it up?

    Apparently they don't need a driving license while on duty. Go figure:

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/garda-in-fatal-crash-didnt-have-a-driving-licence-inquest-told-26582819.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    anncoates wrote: »
    All those skids in garbage strewn alleyways and perp apprehension across the bonnets must take its toll.

    Don't forget the boxes.


    Damn boxes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    jimgoose wrote: »

    Do they still have to under go a special driving course? For high speed driving etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Maybe should be doe tested. Used for commercial professional duties. Providing public service duties. At least fit them with bluetooth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,194 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Do they still have to under go a special driving course? For high speed driving etc?

    It wouldn't appear so. My brother-in-law was torpedoed amidships in Limerick City a couple of years ago by two young bucks with too much engine up front and bugger-all between the ears, speeding through a red light in the city-centre without even a sniff of an emergency going on.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Anyone applying for the current phase of recruitment had to have a full license I believe.

    In the past they didn't necessarily have to do the advanced driving course to drive on blues,as Guards without it could get special dispensation from the chief super if they were short of drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Garball


    garda cars are well maintained. they get a complete make over also when they hit 200,000km. the bodes of the vehicles may be bashed and bent, but the engine, brakes and suspension are kept really well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,717 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    jimgoose wrote: »
    It wouldn't appear so. My brother-in-law was torpedoed amidships in Limerick City a couple of years ago by two young bucks with too much engine up front and bugger-all between the ears, speeding through a red light in the city-centre without even a sniff of an emergency going on.

    Can't have been a Garda vehicle so. They wouldnt pull you out of bed.

    The sight of the new small Hyundai estate patrol car around my way is putting the fear of God in me I must say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,717 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Garball wrote: »
    garda cars are well maintained. they get a complete make over also when they hit 200,000km. the bodes of the vehicles may be bashed and bent, but the engine, brakes and suspension are kept really well.


    Think you might have seen that on the Blues Brothers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    garda cars shouldnt be nct'd because then they might catch dodgy nct center practices


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

    Well they did know there was a meet between Big Frankie and the Feds down in Louie's joint on 52nd so whats that telling you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Do they still have to under go a special driving course? For high speed driving etc?
    jimgoose wrote: »
    It wouldn't appear so. My brother-in-law was torpedoed amidships in Limerick City a couple of years ago by two young bucks with too much engine up front and bugger-all between the ears, speeding through a red light in the city-centre without even a sniff of an emergency going on.

    Nothing like sweeping statements based on one random incident...

    Wrong, they do have to be qualified for high speed driving. My brother is a Garda and had to do the course and qualify before he was allowed to drive a Garda car with its blue lights activated.

    If a Garda is not qualified now a days they are not allowed to activate the blue lights. Even if they witness bad driving etc they cannot do anything about it.

    Garda Drivers Restricted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Oi!! I'll 'ave that git round your manor, guv'nor!


    :pac:



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Garda vehicles are brought to main dealers for servicing. Main dealers are not the kind to overlook the chance to make some money so you can be reasonably reassured that they are in ok nick. The same with tyres, they are fitted with good brands.

    Based on my experience with one main dealership I am not reassured.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,194 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Nothing like sweeping statements based on one random incident...

    Wrong, they do have to be qualified for high speed driving. My brother is a Garda and had to do the course and qualify before he was allowed to drive a Garda car with its blue lights activated.

    If a Garda is not qualified now a days they are not allowed to activate the blue lights. Even if they witness bad driving etc they cannot do anything about it.

    Garda Drivers Restricted

    The point, Grasshopper, is the yahoo in question couldn't drive a wheelbarrow and had no blues'n'twos on. I understand they can drive patrol cars away sans blues'n'twos with no driving qualifications whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭junior_apollo


    jimgoose wrote: »

    Jaysus, I never even heard about that at the time, absolutely disgusting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Had a cop car driving behind me this morning with just one headlight working,did they not have a campaign a while ago to clamp down on drivers with dodgy lights?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Anyone applying for the current phase of recruitment had to have a full license I believe.

    .

    no they didn't


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    The NCT may not perfect but it's pretty comprehensive, and pretty good value too(not that I enjoy paying it) ,it's only a snap shot but older vehicles would be tested as safe at least straight after the test... (cars only I suppose)

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 478 ✭✭Stella Virgo


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    I know that they don't have to be but why? Those cars are on the road a lot more than regular cars, they carry passengers and people who are in distress,drunk ect.. I mean who's to say their not driving death traps around? (and from what I hear they are)

    Surely they should set an example for the rest of us and get them tested. Why is it ok for them to drive a dangerous car but not for the rest of the public.



    Before anyone asks my car is currently nct'd.....
    do i hear faint "whistling" in the background....;):D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    It would seem to me that the NCT is a way of bringing a private citizen's car under State control for an examination. Garda (And Army) vehicles are already under State control and thus routinely examined by the State.


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