Unusual reg plate seen today.

Ipro

Passing through Dorset street/NCR junction few min ago and spotted this.


IRL in blue followed by three letters and three numbers.
On quick glance it seemed to have all the normal discs in the window although I didn't inspect these.

Any idea where it's from or why the plate would have a IRL written in the blue strip ?

Can't post pics but if someone wants to pm me ill send the link and they can upload to the form :-)

bmstuff

Red ferrari by any chance?
Just a fake irish plate. Car is uk registered.

hi5

What sort of car was it, was it pre 1987?

CiniO

I've seen good few artic trailers having irish regs consisting of 2 letters and 4 or 5 numbers. I'm not sure exactly.
In all cases though it was irish registered trailer pulled by foreign registered tractor unit.
As most countries in Eu issue separate number plates for trailers, then I assume this must be the only way to have irish registered trailer to be towed by foreign registered vehicle.
I assume then there must be some authority in Ireland responsible for issuing those numbers for trailers to be towed by foreign tractor units

ianobrien

OP, its a pre'87 reg car with the number on new style plates. Nothing to worry about and all legal (assuming the car was a pre '87 model)

corktina

CiniO wrote: »

I've seen good few artic trailers having irish regs consisting of 2 letters and 4 or 5 numbers. I'm not sure exactly.
In all cases though it was irish registered trailer pulled by foreign registered tractor unit.
As most countries in Eu issue separate number plates for trailers, then I assume this must be the only way to have irish registered trailer to be towed by foreign registered vehicle.
I assume then there must be some authority in Ireland responsible for issuing those numbers for trailers to be towed by foreign tractor units[/QUOT,


they just use number plates as a cheap way of producing a plate I thought. Not an official number plate as such just an ID

CiniO

corktina wrote: »

CiniO wrote: »

I've seen good few artic trailers having irish regs consisting of 2 letters and 4 or 5 numbers. I'm not sure exactly.
In all cases though it was irish registered trailer pulled by foreign registered tractor unit.
As most countries in Eu issue separate number plates for trailers, then I assume this must be the only way to have irish registered trailer to be towed by foreign registered vehicle.
I assume then there must be some authority in Ireland responsible for issuing those numbers for trailers to be towed by foreign tractor units[/QUOT,


they just use number plates as a cheap way of producing a plate I thought. Not an official number plate as such just an ID

So what is actually on this number plate?
I'm sure it was something like 2 letters and 4 or 5 digits.

AFAIK heavy trailers (over 3.5tonne) are due registration in Ireland, but they don't get registration number issued.
However in case when foreign registered vehicle is towing them, I assume they must have some registartion number, then I assumed there must be some authority issuing registration numbers for trailers here in Ireland.

Otherwise I just don't know what it was what I've seen.

corktina

I don't know definitively, but I don't think they are registration numbers as a vehicle would have. Just ID, often incorporating the owners initials or similar.

galwaytt

corktina wrote: »

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they just use number plates as a cheap way of producing a plate I thought. Not an official number plate as such just an ID

Exactly. Those plates are just trailer i.d. numbers - they're not road registration numbers.

You'll find they would also display the normal reg on another plate as well.

CiniO

galwaytt wrote: »

Exactly. Those plates are just trailer i.d. numbers - they're not road registration numbers.

You'll find they would also display the normal reg on another plate as well.

See, I didn't see any of them in Ireland.
I've seen them on the Continent and in UK.
Plate with IRL on blue strip on the left, and 2 letters and 4 up to 5 numbers. All that on trailers. No other plates displayed on the trailer.
In all cases towing vehicle was foreign (not Irish, nor UK) registered tractor unit.
Pity I didn't take any picture.

Ipro

No I don't think it was pre 87 it was an audi a4 I'd say it was around a 1999 model can pm someone the link to put up if anyone wants to contact me

dmc17

Ipro wrote: »

No I don't think it was pre 87 it was an audi a4 I'd say it was around a 1999 model can pm someone the link to put up if anyone wants to contact me

Have you got a picture? Just post the url as text.

btb

CiniO wrote: »

See, I didn't see any of them in Ireland.
I've seen them on the Continent and in UK.
Plate with IRL on blue strip on the left, and 2 letters and 4 up to 5 numbers. All that on trailers. No other plates displayed on the trailer.
In all cases towing vehicle was foreign (not Irish, nor UK) registered tractor unit.
Pity I didn't take any picture.

HGV trailers are licensed here in Ireland and have a license plate attached to the nearside of the trailer, letters followed by numbers e.g. BK123 etc. This is linked to the owner by the trailer licensing process. Similar to the continent where each trailer has a registration or license plate, but here there is also requirement to display license plate of drawing vehicle to the rear. See sect 16(b) of http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1982/en/si/0035.html#zzsi35y1982a16

Ipro

dmc17 wrote: »

Have you got a picture? Just post the url as text.

I can't post images / links as I'm a new user . The system blocks my post when I post the link :-(

Ipro

postimg.org/image/ft5m9vmfn/

oak5548

I saw a weird plate recently too. It was a modern car, although not a brand/model I've seen before. Looked Italian or something, kinda sporty like a mini.

It was like 10-D-20-442

Never seen something like it before.

_Kaiser_

oak5548 wrote: »

I saw a weird plate recently too. It was a modern car, although not a brand/model I've seen before. Looked Italian or something, kinda sporty like a mini.

It was like 10-D-20-442

Never seen something like it before.

Probably someone with extra spacing for "coolness" .. although 10-D-20442 shows as a VW Golf

Ipro

Ipro wrote: »

postimg.org/image/ft5m9vmfn/

Anyone ?

PrettyBoy

Ipro wrote: »

Anyone ?

Northern reg on an Irish plate?

strange alright!! em only thing i could think is a modern looking pre 87 reg

dunnno why its on an A4 though, could be a kit car sort of job??

Saw what looked like a brand new range rover with a 1977 reg on it while back
fiat coupes do be used as bases to make ferrari f355

not sure why youd make an A4 kitcar though?

Ipro

aaronc182 wrote: »

strange alright!! em only thing i could think is a modern looking pre 87 reg

dunnno why its on an A4 though, could be a kit car sort of job??

Saw what looked like a brand new range rover with a 1977 reg on it while back
fiat coupes do be used as bases to make ferrari f355

not sure why youd make an A4 kitcar though?

Yeah it's quite well known for people to kit old range rovers to make them look like the latest model.

It could be a northern number printed on a southern style plate although generally northern numbers tend to be 3 letters followed by 4 numbers right ?

This weird site says it was registered in Cork anyway

http://regarchive.com/oldplate/FZT296

oak5548

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Probably someone with extra spacing for "coolness" .. although 10-D-20442 shows as a VW Golf

I just made that number up. Dont know the actual number but it had a - in it

r3nu4l

If it was a British registered car then the numbers 296 would indicate the car to be an Angolan diplomatic plate.*

Not sure if the number 296 is used in Ireland for diplomatic plates though or if it is, whether it applies to Angola or not.



*I only know this because my wife's organisation entitles us to another type of diplomatic plate for our car but we've never availed of it...

Ipro

r3nu4l wrote: »

If it was a British registered car then the numbers 296 would indicate the car to be an Angolan diplomatic plate.*

Not sure if the number 296 is used in Ireland for diplomatic plates though or if it is, whether it applies to Angola or not.



*I only know this because my wife's organisation entitles us to another type of diplomatic plate for our car but we've never availed of it...

In Ireland we just have normal plates for diplomatic cars and add "CD" at the end of the plate.

AFAIK

tom_k

Did you notice if it was left hand drive OP?

A few years ago there was an Lithuanian lad living down our way, one night someone removed the plates (Lithuanian ones) from his car, a 735i.

He got replacement plates made up locally which were IIRC three letters and three numbers just like this car. He was driving around on them for ages until the authorities started taking the foreign plates seriously.

If I had to guess, I'd say that's the explanation. Also I think it's a 2.5 TDi which would be uncommon in Ireland for that model/year.

Ipro

tom_k wrote: »

Did you notice if it was left hand drive OP?

A few years ago there was an Lithuanian lad living down our way, one night someone removed the plates (Lithuanian ones) from his car, a 735i.

He got replacement plates made up locally which were IIRC three letters and three numbers just like this car. He was driving around on them for ages until the authorities started taking the foreign plates seriously.

If I had to guess, I'd say that's the explanation. Also I think it's a 2.5 TDi which would be uncommon in Ireland for that model/year.

I didn't actually notice if it was RHD/LHD
However , just across the road from the car in a garden there were a group of about 15 people chatting and looking over at the car. They had tanned skin , long pony tails and very long skirts while the guys were wearing leather jackets and extremely pointy leather/snake skin shoes.

Looking at them I would assume by there behaviour that they owned the car. I've passed by a few times since and it's not been there so perhaps it was a guest visiting them.

I can't be sure but I don't think they were Lithuanian

pablo128

Has anyone seen a 'T' reg? I saw a 141 T xxx the other day. Have TN and TS been done away with?

tom_k

Ipro wrote: »

I didn't actually notice if it was RHD/LHD
However , just across the road from the car in a garden there were a group of about 15 people chatting and looking over at the car. They had tanned skin , long pony tails and very long skirts while the guys were wearing leather jackets and extremely pointy leather/snake skin shoes.

Looking at them I would assume by there behaviour that they owned the car. I've passed by a few times since and it's not been there so perhaps it was a guest visiting them.

I can't be sure but I don't think they were Lithuanian

You're certainly observant, Ipro. They don't match the description of any Lithuanians I know either

My example was just a possible explanation of how a car from that era could find itself wearing unusual plates.

Hope they're safe wherever they are, those pointy snakeskin shoes can be a b!tch to drive in, I hear.

tom_k

pablo128 wrote: »

Has anyone seen a 'T' reg? I saw a 141 T xxx the other day. Have TN and TS been done away with?

Yep, gone from 1st January 2014 onwards. Same applies to LK and WD registrations.

AFAIK the old system (TS, TN etc.) will still apply to cars imported into the state that are pre-2014.

JamesM

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

This weird site says it was registered in Cork anyway

http://regarchive.com/oldplate/FZT296

That's a Cork reg from 1971.

Ipro

JamesM wrote: »

That's a Cork reg from 1971.

Is it possible they could have bought a 1971 Audi in need of restoration , and then just basically strip everything from a 15 year old A4 and put it onto the 1971 cassis ?

Then they could drive their 2.5 "modern" car while enjoying the benefits of vintage tax/insurance ?

Tax saving would be about €1000 a year. That's 5k over say a 5 year ownership period. Would the above mentioned work be possible ? Is it likely someone on a budget who is good with cars be likely to go to this effort to save €1 k a year ?

Surly the yoke gets pulled over non stop with a plate like that on it

Ps. I remembered the insurance etc discs were on the left side of the window screen so this would indicate that it's more than likely a RHD as most people put the discs on the passenger side of the window.

FearDark

Saw 141-T-1 on an Opel Insignia the other day, so strange looking I had to look twice.

larchill

Indeed - the T's have it! 141-T-123 is a 2014 Honda Civic 1.6 I-dtec EX 4DR. TN & TS are gone. Wonder why TY (1st & last letter in Tipperary) wasn't used?

corktina

Ipro wrote: »

Is it possible they could have bought a 1971 Audi in need of restoration , and then just basically strip everything from a 15 year old A4 and put it onto the 1971 cassis ?

Then they could drive their 2.5 "modern" car while enjoying the benefits of vintage tax/insurance ?

Tax saving would be about €1000 a year. That's 5k over say a 5 year ownership period. Would the above mentioned work be possible ? Is it likely someone on a budget who is good with cars be likely to go to this effort to save €1 k a year ?

Surly the yoke gets pulled over non stop with a plate like that on it

Ps. I remembered the insurance etc discs were on the left side of the window screen so this would indicate that it's more than likely a RHD as most people put the discs on the passenger side of the window.

no, I'd say that isn't possible.