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Woman who parked in disabled spot banned for 6 months

  • 17-05-2014 10:16am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭


    €500 fine + ban,

    Happy days


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Citation needed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    I didn't even know Boards had a car park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Alf. A. Male


    Good enough for her, delighted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Don't believe it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭BearBanjer


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sixmonth-driving-ban-for-disabled-bay-parking-30281430.html


    A JUDGE has been praised by a disability organisation after imposing a six-month driving ban on a woman who illegally parked in a disabled spot.

    He made his comment before banning Valerie Scullion of Bridge View, Roslevan, Ennis, from driving for six months.

    Judge Durcan imposed the ban after hearing evidence from traffic warden supervisor, James Counihan that he found Ms Scullion's car parked in a disabled driving spot at Francis Street on December 30 last.

    The judge said that "this is a serious matter" before imposing the six-month driving ban and the €500 fine. Judge Durcan also awarded costs of €100 against Ms Scullion who failed to attend yesterday's hearing.

    The court heard Ms Scullion had previous convictions for illegally parking around Ennis, but none for illegally parking in a disabled driver's spot.

    Enable Ireland welcomed what they described as the judge's "tough stance".

    Communications officer Aghna Hennigan said: "If a parking space is unavailable, it can make an entire town inaccessible to a person with a disability."

    Corporate affairs manager of the AA Conor Faughnan said: "Justice must be proportionate and I believe that most drivers would be baffled with the ban handed down as the penalty in this case is the same that would be handed down for a person convicted of drink driving."

    Good enough for the stupid bint.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Delighted. Hope it happens more often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,842 ✭✭✭Glebee


    The law is most certainly an ass..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Seems a bit harsh when people who are actually a danger on the road get off with less however I'm glad to see she was punished, its a skanky thing to do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Ah yes, the Irish courts, consistent as always.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    This is great. Some people are just so ignorant when it comes to this stuff.

    When our main carpark in work gets full i often have people asking me if it's ok for them to park in one of the disabled bays.

    When i tell them to park in the overflow carpark which is about two minutes walk from the building they do the usual huffing and puffing and "shur, what difference does it make if i park in the handicapped space" speil.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Seems like an excessive punishment compared to those handed out for drink driving etc. Sure she deserves to be punished, I am sure if she appealed it would be reduced substantially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    Big C wrote: »
    €500 fine + ban,

    Happy days

    Happy days my hole. Massive overreaction and possibly illegal - a parking offence is not a driving offence, afaik, so her license have fukkall to do with it. The way people go on about disabled spaces these days is nothing short of hysterical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    I never really took any notice of or appreciated disabled parking spaces until I needed one. Well done to that judge, I see the lady didn't even turn up in court, well that says a lot.

    Conor in the AA obviously believes that drunk drivers do not get enough punishment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭abff


    Seems a bit harsh. I would have thought the €500 fine was sufficient punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    Oh no,she parked in a disabled space
    Throw her to the lions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭abff


    The woman in question was in Lahinch yesterday at the beach instead. She's married to my cousin :)

    Fully deserved ban and fine.

    I hope your cousin doesn't see this or you could be in for a family row!

    I don't have a problem with the fine. I wonder is the ban more to do with her not bothering to turn up in court than the original offence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Big C


    abff wrote: »
    I hope your cousin doesn't see this or you could be in for a family row!

    I don't have a problem with the fine. I wonder is the ban more to do with her not bothering to turn up in court than the original offence?

    Typical of people who park illegally, she probably had a hair apportionment on the day of her court case, the women has priorities, (she now has a €500 fine and a six month driving ban to go with her priorities


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    John Terry got fined £60 for just parking on one once


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭BearBanjer


    Why is she a stupid bint?

    For parking in a disabled spot and showing complete ignorance and disregard for people with disabilities.

    She could've been responsible for someone not being able to go about their business that day by taking a designated space she didn't need.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    The woman in question was in Lahinch yesterday at the beach instead. She's married to my cousin :)

    Fully deserved ban and fine.

    lucky the judge didnt hear that or she would have got 6 months inside...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Well done that Traffic Warden and Judge. Parking in these spots is seen by many to be a victimless crime. Apparently there's a problem aswell with the misuse of those blue parking permits by friends and family of those they have been issued to. Iirc there's currently a big hullaballo about it in the UK at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    All I can find is €80 fixed penalty with 28 days to pay rising to €120 and then court appearance for parking in a disabled spot. I cant find anything about huge fines, driving bans, penalty points etc. I reckon she'll get off on appeal with a good excuse as to why she didn't turn up.
    Can any of the legal eagles confirm that you can actually get a driving ban for illegal parking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    Does any news story any way connected to the motoring industry ever go to print without the input of Conor ****ing Faughnan of the AA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sixmonth-driving-ban-for-disabled-bay-parking-30281430.html

    Corporate affairs manager of the AA Conor Faughnan said: "Justice must be proportionate and I believe that most drivers would be baffled with the ban handed down as the penalty in this case is the same that would be handed down for a person convicted of drink driving."

    I think that maybe we need to increase the penalty for drink driving then.

    I may be a tree hugging hippy liberal who thinks that we imprison people far too often, but in this case the woman has multiple convictions for the same offence. If she can't be trusted with a car, take it off her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Does any news story any way connected to the motoring industry ever go to print without the input of Conor ****ing Faughnan of the AA?
    He's rent-a-guest on those kinda stories all right. :)
    Will give his view to college radio stations and everything! In fairness, a lovely guy - and happy to give time to anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    They need to look into the whole "disabled parking" situation.
    There is one very close to my door and the amount of people who park there and run into shops, pubs etc is amazing. They display these stickers but are clearly not disabled and abusing the system.
    Maybe they have a member of their family who is disabled but the disabled parking places should only be used when they are driving the disabled person.
    The whole thing is being abused imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    All I can gather from this case is that she must have not had the Hazard Lights on and that's why she's gettin the ban. Everyone knows if you have them on you're entitled to go into the shop for a minute or two or maybe even kill someone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    There's a person in senior management where I work that takes the biscuit. We have some parking spaces in front of the building, one of which is a disabled spot, this is located next to a ramp that leads up onto the path that is also the same size as a parking space. There is no shortage of parking spaces btw.

    This person decides to park her pointless 4x4 on the RAMP next to the disabled spot. So, great, wheelchair users have somewhere to park, but they won't be able to get into the ****ing building unless they can lift themselves up a high curb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Does any news story any way connected to the motoring industry ever go to print without the input of Conor ****ing Faughnan of the AA?
    Haha
    In fairness he is probably the most articulate, practical, down to earth and sensible talking head in the irish media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Haha
    In fairness he is probably the most articulate, practical, down to earth and sensible talking head in the irish media.

    Thank you for that input conor ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭rat catcher


    Great bit of news! :D I dont feel sorry for her one bit! I often sit in the car when shopping with her who must be obeyed :rolleyes: and it really gets up my nose when people who are not disabled use the parking spaces. Its about time something was done!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    catallus wrote: »
    Well done that Traffic Warden and Judge. Parking in these spots is seen by many to be a victimless crime. Apparently there's a problem aswell with the misuse of those blue parking permits by friends and family of those they have been issued to. Iirc there's currently a big hullaballo about it in the UK at the minute.

    Just look at the number of "Chelsea Tractors" parked in the FREE disabled spaces at the airport and you would think every disabled person is away on business or holidays!

    While I don't think a ban is warranted in this case I do think that anyone found abusing a disabled parking permit should be jailed for at least a month!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    Grayson wrote: »
    I think that maybe we need to increase the penalty for drink driving then.

    I may be a tree hugging hippy liberal who thinks that we imprison people far too often, but in this case the woman has multiple convictions for the same offence. If she can't be trusted with a car, take it off her.

    No, she doesn't. According to the article she has multiple previous parking violations (like many people) but none for parking in a disabled spot. She should get a big fine, but banning her from driving is ridiculous and disproportionate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    No, she doesn't. According to the article she has multiple previous parking violations (like many people) but none for parking in a disabled spot. She should get a big fine, but banning her from driving is ridiculous and disproportionate.

    I'm sure she has been fined for her previous parking violations or there wouldn't be any record of them. Clearly she isn't getting the message.

    This is the next step. Maybe being banned from actually being able to drive and therefore park her car will get through her ignorant skull.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    It seems quite harsh, but every now and then an example has to be made. She has been effectively "disabled" for 6 months, but she does have an able body to get about in. Hopefully this will be a lesson to her. And will make other people think twice.

    On the other hand I do occasionally park in parent and child spaces - but only if I'm out with my mum or my teenage daughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭shot2go


    great news, these spaces are vital to wheelchair users. i have a 5 year old in a wheelchair sometimes we have to turn around and go home because all the spaces are gone 50% of the people parking in them have no badge displayed.
    these spaces are much wider then normal spots for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭radia


    Seems to me that the driving ban is the more appropriate part of the sentence than the fine. It means she's inconvenienced in the same way as the disabled people she displaced from the parking spot; she can't just scoot up in her car, park and head in to wherever she wants, but will instead have to plan her journeys and be more reliant on others for transport. Might give her an appreciation of how important it is not to hijack parking facilities for the disabled. Make the punishment fit the crime and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    It's a bit over the top penalty purely because it's a one off and it's something that's never policed. But I'd love to see it properly enforced and more big fines.
    I only once parked in a disabled spot (had no choice), normally never do. In my local shops there's a massive car park which is never full, but the 5 disabled spots are always full. It's unbelievable that so many people want to avoid the 15 second walk past 2 rows of cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    I'm sure she has been fined for her previous parking violations or there wouldn't be any record of them. Clearly she isn't getting the message.

    This is the next step. Maybe being banned from actually being able to drive and therefore park her car will get through her ignorant skull.

    Isn't s parking violation an automatic fine? And afaik records are kept regardless of the punishment. The punishment is unprecedented and unexpected. It is not the logical 'next step'. There was no message for her to get. Punishment is only a deterrent if you know what the scale of the punishment may be.
    I think that parking in a disabled spot is a scummy thing to do, but loosing your licence (and therefore maybe your job for many) is completely disproportionate, especially considering it is not an expected punishment. I would image she will get a reduction of the punishment in appeal. I hope she does appeal it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    THis woman has previous convictions for parking offences meaning she has previously ignored fines and been summoned to court, and possibly didn't turn up like this time.

    Does anyone think for one minute that she will stop driving because she has been banned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    radia wrote: »
    Seems to me that the driving ban is the more appropriate part of the sentence than the fine. It means she's inconvenienced in the same way as the disabled people she displaced from the parking spot; she can't just scoot up in her car, park and head in to wherever she wants, but will instead have to plan her journeys and be more reliant on others for transport. Might give her an appreciation of how important it is not to hijack parking facilities for the disabled. Make the punishment fit the crime and all that.

    Exactly, the driving ban part of penalties mean it will affect everyone. If you're on 150k a year you'll think about doing it, where if it was just the fine it's not a big deal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    radia wrote: »
    Seems to me that the driving ban is the more appropriate part of the sentence than the fine. It means she's inconvenienced in the same way as the disabled people she displaced from the parking spot; she can't just scoot up in her car, park and head in to wherever she wants, but will instead have to plan her journeys and be more reliant on others for transport. Might give her an appreciation of how important it is not to hijack parking facilities for the disabled. Make the punishment fit the crime and all that.

    wouldn't a more fitting punishment be to order her to carry out her daily tasks in a wheelchair for the next 6months with no access to disabled parking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Crush her car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    If people who park in disabled bays when they have no right had any idea of the difficulties involved for disabled people they would not do it. I drive my husband to an appointment and if there is no disabled bay or it is occupied (even with a disabled person's car, but that cant be helped) I drop him off and leave him there complete with oxygen and unable to walk more than a very short distance while I go off to find parking, find the fee machine (I do not use the disabled spot if he is not still in the car) then walk back to him, and the same in reverse. The argument that it is 'only for a minute while I just...' is stupid. Independent people with wheelchairs have even more issues as they cannot park in an ordinary space and still have room to get the wheelchair organised.

    Be grateful for your mobility, be prepared to walk a few yards!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Just look at the number of "Chelsea Tractors" parked in the FREE disabled spaces at the airport and you would think every disabled person is away on business or holidays!


    Disabled parking spaces are not 'FREE' at the airport. The fees are charged at long term rates while the spaces are in short term car park.

    This is for obvious pragmatic reasons.

    There are maybe 40 spaces there btw. I don't think it's impossible that 40 people with disabilities be flying the same day or week from a country's main airport.

    But there certainly is abuse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 69 ✭✭Mellamella


    anybody who has had the pleasure of meeting the woman in question will agree that nobody likes her. She had this coming. Its called KARMA. Now maybe she wont be so quick to gossip about others and tell nasty lies and stories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    diomed wrote: »
    Crush her car.

    With her in it :D

    What amazes me about people like this is how offended they get when someone points out their transgression to them as if it were more a crime to be told they were parked illegally. These morons would drive into the shop if they could.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Multiple illegal parking, doesn't turn up to court...of course she should get a harsher punishment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Mellamella wrote: »
    anybody who has had the pleasure of meeting the woman in question will agree that nobody likes her. She had this coming. Its called KARMA. Now maybe she wont be so quick to gossip about others and tell nasty lies and stories


    I heard what was said about things ;)


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