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How much do you spend on Creche Fees?

  • 16-05-2014 12:48pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Currently spend 135 per week for a 3 year old, that will soon increase to 380 per week when the 2nd child begins soon.

    Edit: A government subsidy might kick in in September which would ruduce it to about 340 per week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    That's a few bob to earn before you break even


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    That's a bargain compared to others. I presume it depends where you are based.

    Standard fees in and around Dublin would be close to €1,000 per month per child.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Cazzoenorme


    JDxtra wrote: »
    That's a bargain compared to others. I presume it depends where you are based.

    Standard fees in and around Dublin would be close to €1,000 per month per child.

    That will only be for 4 days per week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    JDxtra wrote: »
    That's a bargain compared to others. I presume it depends where you are based.

    Standard fees in and around Dublin would be close to €1,000 per month per child.

    :eek: .... Hmmmmmmm....






















    I'd like to announce that I am opening up a childcare centre here in Dublin ladies and gentleman. Step right up, step right up, Low cost fees. Only €999 per month :pac:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    That's just insane money. Why would you bother working if you didn't get to keep any of your money and barely see your kids?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭PEACEBROTHER


    Pay 260e a week for 1 baby and a after school

    Goverment really needs to help WORKING people out with creche fees


  • Posts: 650 [Deleted User]


    I've been looking into this as we'll need a crèche in Jan. Some of the prices are scary & would make you wonder if you'd be better off at home collecting benefits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭BearBanjer


    That's just insane money. Why would you bother working if you didn't get to keep any of your money and barely see your kids?

    And why are some people having kids if you have to hand them over to a creche everyday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    preschool- 1 is free the other is €120 pm
    child minder €175 per week.

    thats €820 per month 9am to 4pm for 3 kids (1,3 and 4 yrs old)


  • Posts: 650 [Deleted User]


    And why are some people having kids if you have to hand them over to a creche everyday?

    Do you propose people who have kids shouldn't work? I'd imagine most households need both parents working to cover bills etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    absolutely nothing



    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    A friend of mine will have to pay 600 euro a week when her son and daughter finish school for the summer. I almost fell of the chair when I heard that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    None. Zero. Zilch.

    I decided to stay at home and look after the kids. No way was I going to work to pay for someone else to look after my kids worse than I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I'd imagine most households need both parents working to cover bills etc

    sad state of affairs isnt it?

    alot of us of a certain age remember when your dads money was enough to own a house pay the bills and raise kids

    our generation was sold a pup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Probably around €600 a month from next June.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It's mental alright. Even here in the backarse of nowhere its the guts of two hundred per week per kid.

    I'd say there's some grannies and grandas up and down the country thinking 'dammit, we got fcuk all!!' :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    €566.00 a month for a 15 month old half day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Holy fcuk, kids are expensive.

    Anyone know how much is the sterilisation operation?

    Or am I asking in the wrong thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    sad state of affairs isnt it?

    alot of us of a certain age remember when your dads money was enough to own a house pay the bills and raise kids

    our generation was sold a pup
    Every time there's more income available, a cost will emerge to gobble it up...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    I'm never having children after reading this thread.

    I would much rather give a fake name and spend my money on bitches and beer, and a fruit based drink for the lady.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Do you propose people who have kids shouldn't work? I'd imagine most households need both parents working to cover bills etc
    It's not much use for covering bills if all of one parent's wages are going on childcare though. It sounds to me like working is only any benefit if you have one child, if you have two you might be better off by a couple of hundred euro, and if you have three you won't even break even.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭BearBanjer


    Do you propose people who have kids shouldn't work? I'd imagine most households need both parents working to cover bills etc

    No. I propose they have what they can afford.

    I wouldn't be comfortable leaving a child in a creche, hence no kids at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    In 2004/5 I was paying €900 per month. That went down to €550 per month when she went into Montessori and from there it went down to €325 per month when she was just in afterschool care (going back up to €525 for holidays).

    Thankfully now she gets home at the same time as me so I pay nothing for her term time. Have yet to see how summer is going to pan out........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Samsgirl


    This is probably going to upset a lot of people paying huge money but my children are in creche three days one week & two days another week. I pay €2 per child per day.So one week I pay €8 & other week I pay €12.

    How do I get this rate I hear ye ask??? I am on a CE scheme. I work 19.5hrs per week & take home €208 per week. Creche fees are subsisidised by Social Welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    It sounds like a lot of money but I don't think creches are making huge money. They can do well, but they are not money printing machines.

    You have to factor in staff costs (2x shifts), staff to child ratios, holiday cover, insurance, rent/mortgage, legal costs, facilities, grounds maintenance, tax etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    ZERO ,I never wanted children ,but have now ended up with two but beyond that stage .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭duchalla


    €617 a month for 3 days a week, just over €50 a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    I pay €1,100 per month full time for a two year old. My wife and I both love our jobs and are lucky enough to earn enough to pay for that. The crèche is a five minute walk from my office and a five minute walk from our house so we still have several hours a day with her. It's a lot of money but the creche is excellent, she's very happy, she's learning lots and she's making lots of friends so I'm not unhappy bringing her in each day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    kylith wrote: »
    It's not much use for covering bills if all of one parent's wages are going on childcare though. It sounds to me like working is only any benefit if you have one child, if you have two you might be better off by a couple of hundred euro, and if you have three you won't even break even.

    but its only for a couple of years.
    say you start school at 4 and 1 year free preschool and first 6 mts on maternity thats only 2 1/2 years to pay full whack for.

    most people can't drop out of their career for that long and expect to get their job back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey


    We used to pay 120 p/w for after school and 160 p/w during the holidays when our daughter was in junior and senior infants. Our second was born a year ago and we have had an au pair since my wife went back to work. €110 a week and all the washing and ironing done by the time you get home from work.

    If you can spare a bedroom and have decent public transport it's the only option. My wife is due again in June so this au pair is staying for a month after the new baby is born and then my wife will look after the three of them until the new year. Then hopefully we'll get another au pair. It wouldn't be worth our while for my wife to go back to work if we had to pay child care for two babies and for one after school.


  • Posts: 650 [Deleted User]


    kylith wrote: »
    It's not much use for covering bills if all of one parent's wages are going on childcare though. It sounds to me like working is only any benefit if you have one child, if you have two you might be better off by a couple of hundred euro, and if you have three you won't even break even.

    It don't doubt your far off here. As crazy as crèche prices are, people will find away to pay them (based on conversations I've had with people in work currently using crèche services) & I'd imagine even if a really big chunk of peoples wages is going to childcare having 2 incomes is still better than one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Love the "You shouldn't have kids to put them in a creche" attitude.
    Should you keep them out of school too?

    Socialising with other children their age is very important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    I'm never having children after reading this thread.

    I would much rather give a fake name and spend my money on bitches and beer, and a fruit based drink for the lady.

    Welcome to my world, it's bliss ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭stehyl15


    Dont creche fees lose the whole porpose of earning money when creches charge more or near your wage


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    mathie wrote: »
    Love the "You shouldn't have kids to put them in a creche" attitude.
    Should you keep them out of school too?

    Socialising with other children their age is very important.

    Which age: 3 months or 5 years old?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭stehyl15


    mathie wrote: »
    Love the "You shouldn't have kids to put them in a creche" attitude.
    Should you keep them out of school too?

    Socialising with other children their age is very important.

    Yea they go to school instead anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    Which age: 3 months or 5 years old?

    both
    and 3 mts old in a creche?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Cazzoenorme


    mathie wrote: »
    Love the "You shouldn't have kids to put them in a creche" attitude.
    Should you keep them out of school too?

    Socialising with other children their age is very important.

    This is the best part imo, it gives them a great head start going into school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Which age: 3 months or 5 years old?

    Are people putting 3 month old children into creches?

    I'd say children from 1 1/2 years old onwards would benefit most.
    Not all parents have the luxury of that long maternity leave though.


  • Posts: 650 [Deleted User]


    No. I propose they have what they can afford.

    I wouldn't be comfortable leaving a child in a creche, hence no kids at the moment.

    It's a fair point & I agree that people shouldn't have families they can't support. It's not an ideal world & as I pointed out in another post, people will find a way to pay.

    With regards to leaving a child in a crèche, I guess that's just some peoples preference. There are other options like child minders & au pairs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Ours is going to be €1,049 a month, starting in July when he's six months old. Think it goes down to €949 or something like that when he's eighteen months old.

    We would of course be financially better off now if he didn't go to creche and if I stayed home to mind him, however I'm in a job I love and I'm midway through a couple of professional qualifications. If I took 4-5 years away from my career, who knows what sort of a job (if any) I'd manage to get when he started school. Whereas if I keep working and studying, I'll progress in my career and my salary will increase, too. Besides, while I love my son, I also love having my own life, and my job is part of that. I wouldn't enjoy being a full-time stay-at-home mother.

    It's also very important to me that he gets the opportunity to socialise with other babies and children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭JanaMay


    To those saying 'why have kids if you then have to pay someone else to mind them' : I pay almost my entire wage for two children in creche until 2pm. (I work full-time but can do 50% from home, when they're in bed). It broke my heart sending them, I carefully considered my options: was it worth my while working if 85% goes to the creche?

    I weighed up all the options and I think it was the right thing to do. First of all, they love it there. Secondly, I studied and worked hard to get to where I am in my career, if I'd given up when they were born what would I do when they start school in a few years? With a five-year gap in my CV I'd never get a similar position and we'll need two full wages in the future. I stayed at home with them until they were 10 months old, which was all the leave I was entitled to and could afford, and I loved it. But realistically speaking, they'll grow up, go to school til 3pm at quite a young age, and I'd be left without a job.

    (I know I'm lucky in many ways because I don't have a commute, creche and work are within walking distance from my house, and my working hours are relatively flexible but my point is that if a person gives up their job to look after their children, for whatever reason, they might find it very difficult to find another job in the future - as Donegal pointed out).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    tobsey wrote: »
    We used to pay 120 p/w for after school and 160 p/w during the holidays when our daughter was in junior and senior infants. Our second was born a year ago and we have had an au pair since my wife went back to work. €110 a week and all the washing and ironing done by the time you get home from work.

    If you can spare a bedroom and have decent public transport it's the only option. My wife is due again in June so this au pair is staying for a month after the new baby is born and then my wife will look after the three of them until the new year. Then hopefully we'll get another au pair. It wouldn't be worth our while for my wife to go back to work if we had to pay child care for two babies and for one after school.


    Personally I would only consider an au-pair as an option if she was Scandinavian, called Svetlana and had a penchant for not wearing any clothes around the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    €650 per month for a 21/2 year old going 5 full days a week.

    Lot of money but as others said the interaction is a big benefit when it comes to school going age, plus they have a structured education curriculum for each age group which helps development


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    It's a fair point & I agree that people shouldn't have families they can't support. It's not an ideal world & as I pointed out in another post, people will find a way to pay.

    With regards to leaving a child in a crèche, I guess that's just some peoples preference. There are other options like child minders & au pairs.

    I'd rather take my chances with a creche, au pairs are usually 18 yr olds who have zero interest in anything other than learning english and having a bit of a holiday, they are not qualified to mind kids unlike creche staff.


  • Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    Many of our neighbours took in kids to supplement their earnings during the recession.
    Turned into a win-win as they were so close, much more affordable & could take the kids even if they were sick/conjunctivitis etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Welcome to my world, it's bliss ;)

    Hi I'm the backwards man.

    Sex?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    bee06 wrote: »
    A friend of mine will have to pay 600 euro a week when her son and daughter finish school for the summer. I almost fell of the chair when I heard that.

    this is complete rubbish.....or they are being ripped off and are fools for paying it. its actually not worth the parents going to work if they have €2400 a month gone before they even live.

    they are filling you with lies or else they are idiots..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭BearBanjer


    mathie wrote: »
    Love the "You shouldn't have kids to put them in a creche" attitude.
    Should you keep them out of school too?

    Socialising with other children their age is very important.

    I'd say spending time with a parent is just as important. Also, they don't need a creche to socialise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Welcome to my world, it's bliss ;)

    Yes ,take note of the huge costs of having to support a sprong in Ireland .No way i would be away as soon as .Though as i use a condom every time its not possiple for me thank god .


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