Election Posters

oB1

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whats the deal with the election posters..

I can honestly say, regardless of what political stand-point i take etc. i would NOT vote for a candidate based on an election poster alone.. personally, i think they are a waste of paper/cardboard/plastic (whatever they are printed on) a waste of space and a waste of time and effort on those who put them up. plus, they look awful!!

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Turtyturd

RobertHopkins wrote: »

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whats the deal with the election posters..

I can honestly say, regardless of what political stand-point i take etc. i would NOT vote for a candidate based on an election poster alone.. personally, i think they are a waste of paper/cardboard/plastic (whatever they are printed on) a waste of space and a waste of time and effort on those who put them up. plus, they look awful!!

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Unfortunately 90% of those who vote do.

Wossack

labour ones shaped like traffic signs should be outlawed

Kimbot

If I was to vote purely based on the Signs then I would be voting for a lot of sexual deviants and devils.

They are an eyesore and unless a candidate knocks at my door and actively engages in the local community then none of them will get my vote.

mickydoomsux

RobertHopkins wrote: »

\rant

whats the deal with the election posters..

I can honestly say, regardless of what political stand-point i take etc. i would NOT vote for a candidate based on an election poster alone.. personally, i think they are a waste of paper/cardboard/plastic (whatever they are printed on) a waste of space and a waste of time and effort on those who put them up. plus, they look awful!!

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I don't really understand them either.

"Here is a picture of my face, my name and also my parties name and maybe a slogan like: Jobs are a good thing. Now, based on this plethora of information, go and vote for me!."

wexie

Also it'd be bleedin' great if the candidates could perhaps ask the minions putting up the signs to put them up in somewhat sensible places.
ie not obstructing the view of traffic, traffic signs, stoplights and such. I wonder quite how many fender benders and near misses have been caused because of election posters in stupid places. :mad::mad::mad:

Wazdakka

+1 to all of this..

I don't think that they in any way affect the way that people would vote.

At most, they would serve to up the "brand awareness" of a particular person.
Personally, I don't think that destroying the way the country looks during the nicer and tourist peak times of the year is justified with that.

They are an outdated, infective form of marketing and advertisement that do nothing but waste money, time, and mess up the place.

Show me a petition that would make them illegal and I'd sign it.
They need to go..

keano_afc

These are the ones we have in Bray.

http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/swan-election-candidates-bray-harbour-1461138-May2014/

Feathers gets my vote.

dee_mc

Turtyturd wrote: »

Unfortunately 90% of those who vote do.

Really?! I vote based on their policies, 'best of a bad lot' sort of thing. I don't know anyone who votes based on the posters?!

BQQ

Studies have shown that a candidate with a poster campaign will do better than one without.

This runs the risk of wealthier candidates dominating, so all candidates are given money for posters.

I, like many, would like to see them gone.
A total ban on posters, fliers, badges etc. would be the only way to do it fairly, but then how do they convince people to vote?
Canvassing? Who answers the door to those turds anymore?

whiskeyman

didn't the Council in Kinsale ban them in 2009?
Wish it would happen across the country.

I think in some other countries, all the candidates are featured on an 'election board' that are in the main shopping centres / colleges / places of worship etc... and posters anywhere else are banned. Sounds like a good idea.

What's the odds that whoever keeps getting the print contract for all these has friends in high places here...

Green Giant

Richard Cahill, Ireland South candidate for European elections, point blank refusing to erect posters.


http://www.thejournal.ie/richard-cahill-ireland-south-europe-candidate-volunteer-community-1452289-May2014/

jmapell

BQQ wrote: »

Studies have shown that a candidate with a poster campaign will do better than one without.

This runs the risk of wealthier candidates dominating, so all candidates are given money for posters.

Are candidates given money for posters?

I think the parties give each of their candidates an allowance of posters but surely independents are on their own?

danmanw8

Turtyturd wrote: »

Unfortunately 90% of those who vote do.

Interesting statistic. Where is it from?

I can stand over this one: 100% of those who don't vote do not have their vote influenced by posters.

oB1

Obviously i am going to vote for someone, but, i do my own research, check the candidates website (if they are good enough to have one!) -- look at the past work, and what they have achieved for the area. Canvassing is another thing i hate, and would again, not vote for someone based on the conversation at the door, basically shoveling info into my face, about why i should vote for them!!

red sean

Turtyturd wrote: »

Unfortunately 90% of those who vote do.

Any solid basis for this?
I didn't think that 90% of the electorate are total idiots!

Rhys Essien

I think we need to get the petition into the government to stop this $hite once and for all.The fact that they are still doing this outdated crap in 2014 is maddening.

On the other thread 90% of people wants this stopped.

Can someone who has time set this up.,

http://petitions.ie/

Davarus Walrus

Green Giant wrote: »

Richard Cahill, Ireland South candidate for European elections, point blank refusing to erect posters.


http://www.thejournal.ie/richard-cahill-ireland-south-europe-candidate-volunteer-community-1452289-May2014/

And there will be snowdrifts in the centre of hell before he gets elected. Posters work. The more posters you have up the greater the chance of recall and recognition when Paddy Punter heads into the voting booth.

Spring Onion

Turtyturd wrote: »

Unfortunately 90% of those who vote do.

Sad but absolutely true. The more posters you have, the better chance you have of being elected.

red sean

Rhys Essien wrote: »

I think we need to get the petition into the government to stop this $hite once and for all.The fact that they are still doing this outdated crap in 2014 is maddening.

On the other thread 90% of people wants this stopped.

Can someone who has time set this up.,

http://petitions.ie/

I agree 100%. I posted this on trhe Sligo sub-forum:
Time all this stupid poster lark was banned. Who votes according to what it says on a poster or flyer?
Legal litter is all it is.

Some of the most beautiful places in the county/country destroyed with this rubbish.

People will say it's part of the razzmatazz of election time and will be gone in a few weeks, but to me that's not an argument.
They appear to have no appreciation of the hard work that communities put in to compete in Tidy Towns competitions etc. when they're going around blighting the countryside.

Likewise for posters asking for votes for silly tv talent shows.

Spring Onion

red sean wrote: »

Any solid basis for this?
I didn't think that 90% of the electorate are total idiots!

90% (or more) haven't a clue what policies each and every candidate has. They vote on perception.

dee_mc

Spring Onion wrote: »

Sad but absolutely true. The more posters you have, the better chance you have of being elected.

Again, where is this information coming from? Alot of statements being made on this thread without anything to back them up.

Sunny Dayz

I hate the sight of the posters clogging up the town, affixed to every lamp post and road sign. But it's a subconcious thing - you don't really pay much attention to them but passing them by everyday the candidate's name gets engrained on the brain. Then when you go to the ballot box you will find yourself marking the box of the names most familiar to you.

Spring Onion

I was in my teens in the 1980s and I was asked by a man (FF supporter I presume) to help take down and rip up other candidates posters at night coming up to election time. I refused (on no grounds in particular, probably laziness) but I know other young lads that did it and got paid to do so!

Birroc

dee_mc wrote: »

Again, where is this information coming from? Alot of statements being made on this thread without anything to back them up.

Would people vote for someone who never had a poster up? Very few I imagine. Its the local and Euro elections, I doubt people have much interest and know who is running in their area.

Wazdakka

dee_mc wrote: »

Again, where is this information coming from? Alot of statements being made on this thread without anything to back them up.

• 83.7% of the "facts" in AfterHours are made up.
• There was a study done into this, but 76% of the people surveyed disagreed with the results.
• Lists look more professional and believable if they have three or more items in them.

Birroc

Wazdakka wrote: »

• 83.7% of the "facts" in AfterHours are made up.
• There was a study done into this, but 76% of the people surveyed disagreed with the results.
• Lists look more professional and believable if they have three or more items in them.

Green Giant

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

And there will be snowdrifts in the centre of hell before he gets elected.

I won't dispute that with you. He only announced his candidacy about two weeks ago and very few outside his hometown of 6,000 people would know who he is.

Probably smacks of desperation that he's using the no posters line in his manifesto

dee_mc

Birroc wrote: »

Would people vote for someone who never had a poster up? Very few I imagine. Its the local and Euro elections, I doubt people have much interest and know who is running in their area.

The statement i questioned was 'The more posters you have, the better chance you have of being elected'. I was wondering if the poster could back up this supposed correlation.
There are very few candidates doing 'poster free' campaigns, and none in my area. I support the idea of abolishing posters as i think they're an eyesore and a waste of money, but the alternatives aren't great either - more canvassing? more leaflets through the post? public interest meetings, which i know i personally wouldn't attend...

Mensch Maschine

It's simple. It's called brand awareness. If you go to buy cola and you see one brand Coca Cola and another which is unknown to you.. chances are, people go with familiarity even if the unknown brand is 20 times better.

Same here. People will vote even if they aren't really educated on who's who. They'll vote for a familiar face.

And you might not know some people now but for future elections, you'll be aware of them.

I ****ing hate them but I understand why they are there.

BQQ

jmapell wrote: »

Are candidates given money for posters?

I think the parties give each of their candidates an allowance of posters but surely independents are on their own?

Well, not exactly.

They are able to claim election expenses (which includes posters) as long as they get 25% of the quota of votes.

Apologies for the earlier misleading post, but if you take out the no-hopers, it still means that the taxpayer funds the posters.

Witchie

Are candidates allowed to put posters up in private estates?

red sean

There are loads of different media available nowadays for parties/candidates to advertise themselves without resorting to littering the country.
If only they would move into the 21st century!
The Co. Councils could bring in bye-laws to ban them if the central Govt. is unwilling.

jmapell

BQQ wrote: »

Well, not exactly.

They are able to claim election expenses (which includes posters) as long as they get 25% of the quota of votes.

Apologies for the earlier misleading post, but if you take out the no-hopers, it still means that the taxpayer funds the posters.

Thanks for clearing that up, I was unaware of that.

PizzamanIRL

If anything, I would avoid voting for someone who I see constantly on those stupid posters. You get sick of seeing their face everywhere you look you start to form a hate relationship with them, but you have the upper hand when you choose not to vote for them.

Yeah, take that, stupid person on the poster watching me like a hawk as i reverse out of my driveway every day.