Wednesday 14th

Francie Barrett

Quite a bit to interest tomorrow.

Looks like Aidan O'Brien will have a pretty strong showing at Naas tomorrow. Prices on the ones I fancy looked prohibitively short already unfortunately. Maarek is also out again tomorrow at York, hoping to improve on a 5th place finish that it had for this race this time last year. Have taken the 9/1 early price on this, reckon it will move in a bit tomorrow. Finally, I notice Tony Martin has a horse out in the hunter at Perth. Horse is unexposed and Tony does like to get a winner overseas.

Johner

I've backed Astaire dropping back to 6f. Will be tough for a 3 year old facing some battle hardened sprinters but he's improving all the time and showed he's not afraid of a battle last season and he's getting 10 pounds from Mareek. Hughes climbs aboard for the first time and Astaire is 2/2 at the track, I've backed him each way at 13/2 and think he can run a big race from the front.

Dubron

Interesting to see Mick Halford train one for Godolphin in the 6.15 at Naas! It's a card that always seems to throw up a lot of future winners for some reason, I watch it closely every year.

jimjamcos

4 for Tom Segal on Wed:

1.45 York Lahaag 10/1
2.45 York Lily Rules 16/1
3.15 York Jack Dexter 6/1
3.15 York Body And Soul 18/1

newuser89

Dubron wrote: »

Interesting to see Mick Halford train one for Godolphin in the 6.15 at Naas! It's a card that always seems to throw up a lot of future winners for some reason, I watch it closely every year.

Halford trained casamento for them a couple years ago to win the racing post trophy

newuser89

jimjamcos wrote: »

4 for Tom Segal on Wed:

1.45 York Lahaag 10/1
2.45 York Lily Rules 16/1
3.15 York Jack Dexter 6/1
3.15 York Body And Soul 18/1

Is there any write ups for the selections.
Thanks for putting these up anyway.

Johner

At Naas I've backed Tarfasha in the Fillies race at 10/3.

Ran an eye catching race in a 3 runner maiden on debut only beaten a neck by the well touted Geoffrey Chaucer under a tender ride from Smullen. Hacked up in her maiden at Galway next time before running a little disappointing finishing 3rd behind My Titania. I think a step up in trip is just what she needs and Weld is obviously in cracking form.

Dubron

newuser89 wrote: »

Halford trained casamento for them a couple years ago to win the racing post trophy

That was in Sheikh Mo's colours though, fairly sure he sends him a couple of horses every year. Just interesting to see Godolphin branching out, Jim Bolger got a number of yearlings from them too as far as I know.

jimjamcos

Maarek, Astaire and Jack Dextor all very interesting in the sprint. Will probably opt for Maarek ew.

York 5.00

Recession Proof @ 20/1: A fine 5th in Sprinter Sacre/Cue Card Supreme Nov, has traveled well in the odd race since bla bla bla. Basically, followed him very unsuccessfully over jumps so may as well go over the cliff on the flat! :pac:

Very small bet.

rossom

1.45 York

Clever Cookie 8/1

Having had a blinding season over hurdles which saw him win a Grade 2 Novice Hurdle, Peter Niven turned the attentions of his star 6 year old to the flat where he won at the first time of asking in comfortable fashion at Doncaster last month and although it's hard to know what he beat I think a mark of 88 could prove lenient for this talented, unexposed horse. In a contest won by subsequent Ormonde Stakes runner up Mad Moose last year and the useful Suraj the year before, Clever Cookie made a seamless progression from the National Hunt scene to the flat with a ready 1.5L success under today's jockey Graham Lee and although it's virtually impossible to know what he beat in Air Pilot who had a solitary start in France nearly 2 years earlier I was quite taken by that performance and I'm keen to believe that this dual bumper winner is capable of better than his opening mark now turned to a handicap. Although stall 17 certainly could have been kinder, Clever Cookie should be held up off the pace so it shouldn't make a massive difference and at 8/1 I'm certainly willing to back him as I really feel he'll run a very big race.

2.15 York

Royal Rascal 11/1 & Blaine 10/1

The reasoning behind both of these horses is virtually identical as both were very decent 2 year olds, who struggled badly at 3 (which happens a lot to those just below top level), but ran extremely promising reappearances on their first starts at 4 back in handicaps. Tim Easterby's Royal Rascal is a triple C+D winner who was 3rd in the Lowther and winner of the Rockingham in her juvenile season before performing terribly in two Pattern Races as a 3 year but who massively caught the eye last month. Returned to a handicap off a mark of 97 over 6f at Pontefract, I felt Royal Rascal ran a highly encouraging race when a not knocked about 6th from a wide draw and uncompromising position when beaten less than 4L in a race that has worked out well (reopposing Fast Shot & Yeoow meet her on 11lb & 4lb worse terms respectively). Dropped 2lb to a mark of 95, sure to have come on for the run, returned to her favourite venue and with underfoot conditions looking no issue, I think Royal Rascal is primed to run a big race and I'd be very surprised if she doesn't go very close.

Incredibly similarly, Kevin Ryan's Blaine was a highly promising two year old who won the Gimcrack over C+D on just his second start before flopping as a 3 year old but who hinted the spark had not gone when reappearing at Beverley 28 days ago. Having been gelded over the winter, Blaine was dropped to the flying 5f at Beverley for the first time and off a mark of 95 he was never nearer than at the finish beaten under 2L. Looking outpaced for much of the contest, the return to 6f will definitely suit and he has a perfect 2-2 record at the Knavesmire whilst that first run since August will definitely have put him spot on for this. Richard Hughes is an incredibly eye catching booking for the Kevin Ryan Yard given he is 1-5 in the past 5 seasons and it very much looks as if this has been his early season target for some time. The one concern I have about Blaine is his ability to handle a testing surface but he is undoubtedly well handicapped on his 2 year old exploits and if handling conditions he's sure to run a blinder.

I have a slight preference for Royal Rascal but have backed both and done a reverse-forecast on the pair too.

2.45 York

Lady Heidi 8/1

If Lady Heidi was trained by "traditional big name" she would unquestionably be a lot, lot shorter but I think Phil Kirby is an outstanding young trainer and fancy his Oaks hope to go very close in this. The highest rated horse in the field, Lady Heidi had obviously been steadily brought along by Kirby and run with promise in two Maidens but she took a gigantic step forward on her 3rd start when pitched into Listed Company against the Colts where she ran out an impressive 3L winner. On heavy ground over a mile at Pontefract, Lady Heidi came from the back of the field and was going away at the finish as she left in her wake 4 male counterparts. There was no fluke about her victory as she beat the useful Safety Check who could only finish 2nd and she should undoubtedly improve for the step up in trip. Phil Kirby clearly takes care of his horses at 2 and given that Lady Heidi was his first juvenile success from 34 runners I certainly do not believe you can question the merit of her victory. If taking that run on face value, on collateral form Lady Heidi is the one they all have to beat and at 8/1 she is truly brilliant value.

3.15 York

Maarek 9/1

Maarek is undoubtedly my favourite horse in training and although he's got a tough ask shouldering a 5lb Group 1 penalty this certainly isn't the strongest renewal of this contest and I'd be very disappointed if he isn't bang there at the finish. First of all, last year's Prix De L'Abbaye winner has Evanna McCutcheon listed as his trainer this season but there has been no change to his team with McCutcheon filling the role of Assistant Trainer to Barry Lalor last year but they have swapped titles this year (can only assume McCutcheon couldn't get licensed last year). Now a 7 year old, Maarek absolutely bombed out on his reappearance at Cork but he put in a much better performance when 2nd to Aidan O'Brien's unexposed 3 year old Guerre conceding him a stone and first run on ground quicker than ideal and he seems to be coming to the boil nicely now. A deluge of rain at York over the past few days has seen the ground turn perfectly for this mud lover and he's unquestionably a top class sprinter when getting his conditions. Although Astaire & Jack Dexter pose obvious dangers, this really isn't the strongest of contests and Maarek is draw low (perhaps not ideal) where all the pace seems to be which this hold up performer thrives on. Although this is not his season definer, he should be spot on for this after his two runs back and getting his ground conditions in a race that lacks obvious depth I cannot see him being far away and I think 9/1 is an insult to his chances and he rates a great each way proposition.

I could not have been more impressed with the debut of 3.50 York That Is The Spirit as he landed some nice bets from the David O'Meara yard at Doncaster back in March and for who I think is definitely a future Pattern Horse. In a 19 runner handicap carrying top weight (mark of 90) I think 7/2 is too short about him but I'm confident he'll be touch at least 5/1 tomorrow at which point I will back him. The St James Palace Stakes entry for Idea very much catches the eye given the grey is rated 79 and, for all I think That Is The Spirit is quite a bit better than a mark of 90, you've got to expect Idea has at least a few lbs in hand of the handicapper and it will take a serious performance by That Is The Spirit to give that rival 11lb. Both will probably be taken on tomorrow to 5/1+ and I think they could prove a cut above this field. I've played the RFC.

BumperD

Found it hard to fancy anything today with the ground turning from good to soft in the uk over the last week so threading warily. Having said that, one man whose horses tend to do fine with a cut in the turf is John Gosden so I'll have a speculative small ew in the 3.50 in York on Provident Spirit @8/1

bumper234

Quell Elite in the 7:35 @ Perth for me.

UrbanSea

Backed Maarek at 9s. These domestic sprints really are woeful

tomaussie

BumperD wrote: »

Found it hard to fancy anything today with the ground turning from good to soft in the uk over the last week so threading warily. Having said that, one man whose horses tend to do fine with a cut in the turf is John Gosden so I'll have a speculative small ew in the 3.50 in York on Provident Spirit @8/1

I used to find that the ground changing to soft in a short space of time actually helped with picking good priced winners.

If the grounds been firm then the horses with current good form tend to be shorter than they should be.

It's a case of finding the ones that like the soft, have little recent form but have a chance on older form and now have their ground.

the groutch

1:45 York - Rye House

7/2 with Paddys and money back (up to €50) if it finishes 2nd or 3rd.

Whosthis

I have a Nag Me alert for Lord Redsgirth who runs in the 6.05 at Perth. I added the horse after its run at Ayr in January but no note to say why, I'll have to go check the video. Anyway it has 3 career wins under rules, 2 of which came at Perth, 1 over CD. The last win however came in July 2012. Was running of a mark of 129 at the time, runs off 100 today and drops into class 5 company for the first time. Off the track 90 days and has previously run well fresh. Capable of winning this if rediscovering its old form and at 11/1 (Bet Victor) I'm willing to take a chance.

tomaussie

HI THERE sticks out in the opener at York but not sure i can trust the jockey. Pity I didn't ask opinions easier.

I've gone for GLOBAL VILLAGE instead.

mr.jingle

Good start for the Rossom followers.
I'd be worried for Maarek though the ground doesn't look that soft

mr.jingle

Kieran Fallon is this year's Johnny Murtagh! Like a fine vintage he seems to be getting better.

Shanee.

Anyone do the placepot in York?

mr.jingle

Super by Maarek, some price that was!

Well done Francie and Rossom. Marek won well.

dahat

Maarek must be a forum fav now, well done to those who tipped him.

Thanks for the few quid as well....

Johner

Johner wrote: »

I've backed Astaire dropping back to 6f. Will be tough for a 3 year old facing some battle hardened sprinters but he's improving all the time and showed he's not afraid of a battle last season and he's getting 10 pounds from Mareek. Hughes climbs aboard for the first time and Astaire is 2/2 at the track, I've backed him each way at 13/2 and think he can run a big race from the front.

Balls, think he'll turn out to be a very good sprinter though.

rossom

Get him in the legend of the forum Urban! Absolutely love him to bits and he's come up trumps once again at an utterly ridiculous 12/1!

It has been years since I have seen him travel that well. Got their too soon but toughed it out from the front.

The mud master is back!

Johner

That Is The Spirit looks a lovely prospect.

rossom

That Is The Spirit is undoubtedly a Group Horse in the making. Value for more than the bare margin of victory and to do that under top weight was an extremely impressive performance.

Very good day indeed.

mr.jingle

Great stuff Rossom I'm up a nice few quid today thanks to you!

sham69

mr.jingle wrote: »

Great stuff Rossom I'm up a nice few quid today thanks to you!

Also got this cheers rossom.

rossom

Glad a few got on lads and always happy to help.

Evanna McCutcheon said he might go for both the Kings Stand & Diamond Jubilee at Royal Ascot if the ground comes up right for him.

He'd have no bother running twice in 4 days and there are more exciting times ahead for him!

dicky dunne

Great stuff lads, backed him at 8/1 but get the GP!! Nice days work

hawaii501

Ridiculous price for Maarek

wishmaster200

jimjamcos wrote: »

4 for Tom Segal on Wed:

1.45 York Lahaag 10/1
2.45 York Lily Rules 16/1
3.15 York Jack Dexter 6/1
3.15 York Body And Soul 18/1

you managed to pick 4 losers well done

glic71rods46t0

wishmaster200 wrote: »

you managed to pick 4 losers well done

as opposed to your clean sweep today:rolleyes:

I appreciate all opinions on these threads and would hate to see such idiot posts discouraging people from putting their fancies up

Hulk Hands

wishmaster200 wrote: »

you managed to pick 4 losers well done

You realise he was long odds against to get a winner out of those 4 long shots? I'm sure Rossom doesn't mind saying that if you followed him recently you'd have had a few losers until making it all back and much more today. All about long term profit

Edit-didnt realise he meant Segal. Same principle applies though

superfurry1

wishmaster200 wrote: »

you managed to pick 4 losers well done

Technically Tom Segal had 4 losers but im sure you knew that, Get back in your box:lurker! :pac:

longshotvalue

rossom wrote: »

1.45 York

Clever Cookie 8/1

Having had a blinding season over hurdles which saw him win a Grade 2 Novice Hurdle, Peter Niven turned the attentions of his star 6 year old to the flat where he won at the first time of asking in comfortable fashion at Doncaster last month and although it's hard to know what he beat I think a mark of 88 could prove lenient for this talented, unexposed horse. In a contest won by subsequent Ormonde Stakes runner up Mad Moose last year and the useful Suraj the year before, Clever Cookie made a seamless progression from the National Hunt scene to the flat with a ready 1.5L success under today's jockey Graham Lee and although it's virtually impossible to know what he beat in Air Pilot who had a solitary start in France nearly 2 years earlier I was quite taken by that performance and I'm keen to believe that this dual bumper winner is capable of better than his opening mark now turned to a handicap. Although stall 17 certainly could have been kinder, Clever Cookie should be held up off the pace so it shouldn't make a massive difference and at 8/1 I'm certainly willing to back him as I really feel he'll run a very big race.

2.15 York

Royal Rascal 11/1 & Blaine 10/1

The reasoning behind both of these horses is virtually identical as both were very decent 2 year olds, who struggled badly at 3 (which happens a lot to those just below top level), but ran extremely promising reappearances on their first starts at 4 back in handicaps. Tim Easterby's Royal Rascal is a triple C+D winner who was 3rd in the Lowther and winner of the Rockingham in her juvenile season before performing terribly in two Pattern Races as a 3 year but who massively caught the eye last month. Returned to a handicap off a mark of 97 over 6f at Pontefract, I felt Royal Rascal ran a highly encouraging race when a not knocked about 6th from a wide draw and uncompromising position when beaten less than 4L in a race that has worked out well (reopposing Fast Shot & Yeoow meet her on 11lb & 4lb worse terms respectively). Dropped 2lb to a mark of 95, sure to have come on for the run, returned to her favourite venue and with underfoot conditions looking no issue, I think Royal Rascal is primed to run a big race and I'd be very surprised if she doesn't go very close.

Incredibly similarly, Kevin Ryan's Blaine was a highly promising two year old who won the Gimcrack over C+D on just his second start before flopping as a 3 year old but who hinted the spark had not gone when reappearing at Beverley 28 days ago. Having been gelded over the winter, Blaine was dropped to the flying 5f at Beverley for the first time and off a mark of 95 he was never nearer than at the finish beaten under 2L. Looking outpaced for much of the contest, the return to 6f will definitely suit and he has a perfect 2-2 record at the Knavesmire whilst that first run since August will definitely have put him spot on for this. Richard Hughes is an incredibly eye catching booking for the Kevin Ryan Yard given he is 1-5 in the past 5 seasons and it very much looks as if this has been his early season target for some time. The one concern I have about Blaine is his ability to handle a testing surface but he is undoubtedly well handicapped on his 2 year old exploits and if handling conditions he's sure to run a blinder.

I have a slight preference for Royal Rascal but have backed both and done a reverse-forecast on the pair too.

2.45 York

Lady Heidi 8/1

If Lady Heidi was trained by "traditional big name" she would unquestionably be a lot, lot shorter but I think Phil Kirby is an outstanding young trainer and fancy his Oaks hope to go very close in this. The highest rated horse in the field, Lady Heidi had obviously been steadily brought along by Kirby and run with promise in two Maidens but she took a gigantic step forward on her 3rd start when pitched into Listed Company against the Colts where she ran out an impressive 3L winner. On heavy ground over a mile at Pontefract, Lady Heidi came from the back of the field and was going away at the finish as she left in her wake 4 male counterparts. There was no fluke about her victory as she beat the useful Safety Check who could only finish 2nd and she should undoubtedly improve for the step up in trip. Phil Kirby clearly takes care of his horses at 2 and given that Lady Heidi was his first juvenile success from 34 runners I certainly do not believe you can question the merit of her victory. If taking that run on face value, on collateral form Lady Heidi is the one they all have to beat and at 8/1 she is truly brilliant value.

3.15 York

Maarek 9/1

Maarek is undoubtedly my favourite horse in training and although he's got a tough ask shouldering a 5lb Group 1 penalty this certainly isn't the strongest renewal of this contest and I'd be very disappointed if he isn't bang there at the finish. First of all, last year's Prix De L'Abbaye winner has Evanna McCutcheon listed as his trainer this season but there has been no change to his team with McCutcheon filling the role of Assistant Trainer to Barry Lalor last year but they have swapped titles this year (can only assume McCutcheon couldn't get licensed last year). Now a 7 year old, Maarek absolutely bombed out on his reappearance at Cork but he put in a much better performance when 2nd to Aidan O'Brien's unexposed 3 year old Guerre conceding him a stone and first run on ground quicker than ideal and he seems to be coming to the boil nicely now. A deluge of rain at York over the past few days has seen the ground turn perfectly for this mud lover and he's unquestionably a top class sprinter when getting his conditions. Although Astaire & Jack Dexter pose obvious dangers, this really isn't the strongest of contests and Maarek is draw low (perhaps not ideal) where all the pace seems to be which this hold up performer thrives on. Although this is not his season definer, he should be spot on for this after his two runs back and getting his ground conditions in a race that lacks obvious depth I cannot see him being far away and I think 9/1 is an insult to his chances and he rates a great each way proposition.

I could not have been more impressed with the debut of 3.50 York That Is The Spirit as he landed some nice bets from the David O'Meara yard at Doncaster back in March and for who I think is definitely a future Pattern Horse. In a 19 runner handicap carrying top weight (mark of 90) I think 7/2 is too short about him but I'm confident he'll be touch at least 5/1 tomorrow at which point I will back him. The St James Palace Stakes entry for Idea very much catches the eye given the grey is rated 79 and, for all I think That Is The Spirit is quite a bit better than a mark of 90, you've got to expect Idea has at least a few lbs in hand of the handicapper and it will take a serious performance by That Is The Spirit to give that rival 11lb. Both will probably be taken on tomorrow to 5/1+ and I think they could prove a cut above this field. I've played the RFC.

:eek::eek:

I think that may be the single best tipping post ever on here.. Unreal 3 good winners... OUTSTANDING...

nuckeythompson

Lady Mega to do the biz at Naas this evening

BumperD

aidankkk wrote: »

:eek::eek:

I think that may be the single best tipping post ever on here.. Unreal 3 good winners... OUTSTANDING...

3 from 6 is great guns but I'd be surprised if its the best ever.

UrbanSea

Very well done rossom. Was going to put him in the legends thread before you said it.


Anyone have any issues with Coral in the past? Not giving me BOG on Maarek, customer service is woeful

Johner

Joesph O'Brien has been woeful recently.

sdoc13

Brilliant stuff rossom. Only had maarek but more than happy with that.

Super tipping and analysis as always.

BorneTobyWilde

Achnaha 7.15 20-1 ew
Think it can place here

Johner

Johner wrote: »

At Naas I've backed Tarfasha in the Fillies race at 10/3.

Ran an eye catching race in a 3 runner maiden on debut only beaten a neck by the well touted Geoffrey Chaucer under a tender ride from Smullen. Hacked up in her maiden at Galway next time before running a little disappointing finishing 3rd behind My Titania. I think a step up in trip is just what she needs and Weld is obviously in cracking form.

Get the **** in. Delighted with that, hacked up.

BorneTobyWilde

Grandma's Hands 10-1 ew 8.45
Flew home last time out, I recall that race.Hopefully it has progressed

jimjamcos

Maarek is some legend! Himself and Sole Power...Boards heroes!

sdoc13

Absolutely sick, after backing Maarek with what I thought was BOG with stanjames I have not received the guaranteed odds. Did the bet at 8,15 this morning at 9s and BOG only applies for bets after 10am.

Got on to livechat and was basically told tough, Not a happy bunny.

NaiveMelodies

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Grandma's Hands 10-1 ew 8.45
Flew home last time out, I recall that race.Hopefully it has progressed

Backed her this morning with the dry forecast at Naas, been waiting for her to run this season, can take positives from all of her runs last year really. Welds is going to be hard to beat but I'd be disappointed if she doesn't outrun her odds.

Hulk Hands

only1stevo wrote: »

Backed her this morning with the dry forecast at Naas, been waiting for her to run this season, can take positives from all of her runs last year really. Welds is going to be hard to beat but I'd be disappointed if she doesn't outrun her odds.

Backed it at 15/2 w/o Welds, seemed fair enough. Might be kept for a handicap though

NaiveMelodies

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Backed it at 15/2 w/o Welds, seemed fair enough. Might be kept for a handicap though

Looks the smart bet.

Connections powerful enough so hopefully handicapping isn't the plan.

BorneTobyWilde

Mr Mason ran a decent race last time out. Must have a good ew chance
10-1 ew 9.05

4th Decent run in what was a weak affair