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Should I buy now or wait

  • 11-05-2014 4:43pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31


    On the lookout for a 2 bed house/duplex in a decent area of Dublin

    Not looking for SCD as my job and family are in West Dublin and i don't see what's so great about it anyway

    My budget is 160-200k not going over that as i don't want to take out a big mortgage

    I've been approved for 110k

    Do you reckon the prices will rise or drop in the 2 bed market in Dublin?

    I'm not sure what to do just yet


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    You get what you pay for. The prices are rising in all areas and anything in the 2 bed house/duplex in a half decent area has broke the 200 already


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 horsesfc88


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    You get what you pay for. The prices are rising in all areas and anything in the 2 bed house/duplex in a half decent area has broke the 200 already

    I heard a tax exemption rule will end this year thus reducing interest from investors, whether or not that is true remains to be seen

    I would pay 200k for a 2 bed max, anymore i couldn't justify it mean it is Dublin after all you swear it was Paris,New york etc with the prices at the moment

    For instance a family member recently bought a 5 bed house with a swimming pool in Vegas that works out at 195k Euros

    In most places you get what you pay for, but not Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭userod


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    I heard a tax exemption rule will end this year thus reducing interest from investors, whether or not that is true remains to be seen

    I would pay 200k for a 2 bed max, anymore i couldn't justify it mean it is Dublin after all you swear it was Paris,New york etc with the prices at the moment

    For instance a family member recently bought a 5 bed house with a swimming pool in Vegas that works out at 195k Euros

    In most places you get what you pay for, but not Dublin

    Sounds like you already know everything and in fact didn't need to start a thread atall.

    Or do you just want someone to tell you what you want to hear?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    I heard a tax exemption rule will end this year thus reducing interest from investors, whether or not that is true remains to be seen

    I would pay 200k for a 2 bed max, anymore i couldn't justify it mean it is Dublin after all you swear it was Paris,New york etc with the prices at the moment

    For instance a family member recently bought a 5 bed house with a swimming pool in Vegas that works out at 195k Euros

    In most places you get what you pay for, but not Dublin

    Speculating on the property market is what got this country where it is now. If you want/need to buy a house and want it as a home not an investment then you should buy what you can afford.

    Comparing property prices in Dublin to Las Vegas is never going to make you happy or confident in buying. If you want to pay those prices then buy there ;)

    If you're considering a Duplex remember to factor in Management Fees. Depending on the development, these could range from several hundred to several thousand every year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 horsesfc88


    userod wrote: »
    Sounds like you already know everything and in fact didn't need to start a thread atall.

    Or do you just want someone to tell you what you want to hear?

    Great contribution to the thread


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 Zzyzx


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Speculating on the property market is what got this country where it is now. If you want/need to buy a house and want it as a home not an investment then you should buy what you can afford.

    Comparing property prices in Dublin to Las Vegas is never going to make you happy or confident in buying. If you want to pay those prices then buy there ;)

    If you're considering a Duplex remember to factor in Management Fees. Depending on the development, these could range from several hundred to several thousand every year.

    Any apartments I have viewed in West Dublin (Ashtown/Castleknock/Clonsilla) and even Dunboyne recently ranged from €1,200 to €1,800 per year management fees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Zzyzx wrote: »
    Any apartments I have viewed in West Dublin (Ashtown/Castleknock/Clonsilla) and even Dunboyne recently ranged from €1,200 to €1,800 per year management fees.

    A 2 bed in our development is around €800 IIRC, refuse included.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 Zzyzx


    athtrasna wrote: »
    A 2 bed in our development is around €800 IIRC, refuse included.

    Is this in West Dublin ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Zzyzx wrote: »
    Is this in West Dublin ?

    Yes, in a popular development in Blanchardstown. Very active management company, directors work hard to keep fees low and services high. And yes, I'm one of them ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 horsesfc88


    Thanks for all the advice guys

    Don't know why i wasted my time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭bisset


    Given your mortgage approval and your deposit what is the most you would pay for a property that did not require work? How much are you paying in rent right now? Do you believe you will be living in the property for the next ten years? How likely is it your personal circumstances would change, e.g. in a years time could you be the parent of twins, could your job be relocated to Cork? If you answer these questions people would be better placed to give you advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭Villa05


    Just watched under offer: the estate agents on bbc.
    2 bed in dagenham, 17 miles from london city centre with tube links sold for 124,950. 5k over the agents expectations. London is widely believed to be in a bubble

    Is there any tube stations in west dublin, oh wait, sorry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Villa05 wrote: »
    Just watched under offer: the estate agents on bbc.
    2 bed in dagenham, 17 miles from london city centre with tube links sold for 124,950. 5k over the agents expectations. London is widely believed to be in a bubble

    Is there any tube stations in west dublin, oh wait, sorry

    From what year? Those shows are regularly years old


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭bidiots


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice guys

    Don't know why i wasted my time

    This will not help you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭Villa05


    athtrasna wrote: »
    From what year? Those shows are regularly years old

    Brand new documentary on estate agents. This was the 5th of 6 episodes, last one to be shown next week.

    They dont have any english mortgage holder association over there either. Any david hall type characters would need a different strategy to get elected as an mp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,423 ✭✭✭✭josip


    What's Dagenham like?
    All I can imagine is big Ford factory.
    I met a guy from Dagenham once, but wouldn't like to base my opinion of the area on just one guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭gaius c


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    Great contribution to the thread

    You're asking folks to predict the future. Some say prices will go up, some say down. Ultimately either could be right for a period of time but you're the one buying so you need to make the call yourself and if you're looking for a general debate on the matter, find the thread on the front page of this forum with the most posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    On the lookout for a 2 bed house/duplex in a decent area of Dublin

    Not looking for SCD as my job and family are in West Dublin and i don't see what's so great about it anyway

    My budget is 160-200k not going over that as i don't want to take out a big mortgage

    I've been approved for 110k

    Do you reckon the prices will rise or drop in the 2 bed market in Dublin?

    I'm not sure what to do just yet

    D15 in west Dublin you would easily pick up a 2 bed for that type of money, in fact you would probably pick up a 3 bed even depending on which part

    this all depends if you view D15 as a decent part of Dublin and the fact you'll most likely be the other side of the M50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭Villa05


    josip wrote: »
    What's Dagenham like?
    All I can imagine is big Ford factory.
    I met a guy from Dagenham once, but wouldn't like to base my opinion of the area on just one guy.
    Gentrification going on as some call it here. Would be the cheapest area in london and would have a high degree of regeneration after the recent olympics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I think prices will stay as they are or rise in area,s where there is a good demand for rental propertys,
    or theres a shortgage of propertys for sale.
    IN dublin west theres plenty of houses in private estates ,110- 140k.
    IF you can find a 2bed house it may be cheaper ,
    most houses in estates are 3bed units.

    I Don,t think anyone can predict the market in 3 years,
    theres too many variables, interest rates, rate of foreclosure for houses in negative equity .The rate of economic recovery in the eu, and ireland.
    There,s plenty of nice private estates in dublin west.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice guys

    Don't know why i wasted my time
    Don't know why people wasted their time giving you their honest opinion, as opposed to what you wanted, which seems to have been "ZOMG, buy the house, what a bargain"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭gaius c


    Villa05 wrote: »
    Brand new documentary on estate agents. This was the 5th of 6 episodes, last one to be shown next week.

    They dont have any english mortgage holder association over there either. Any david hall type characters would need a different strategy to get elected as an mp

    Yep. Fact is that the British press would have been all over the fact that he's a dyed in the wool Soldier of Destitution and owns a casino, stuff that the Irish press seem very slow to mention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Barely Hedged


    Villa05 wrote: »
    Just watched under offer: the estate agents on bbc.
    2 bed in dagenham, 17 miles from london city centre with tube links sold for 124,950. 5k over the agents expectations. London is widely believed to be in a bubble

    Is there any tube stations in west dublin, oh wait, sorry

    Zone's 1/2/3 on the transport links are in a bubble. Dagenham definitely is not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Barely Hedged


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    I heard a tax exemption rule will end this year thus reducing interest from investors, whether or not that is true remains to be seen

    I would pay 200k for a 2 bed max, anymore i couldn't justify it mean it is Dublin after all you swear it was Paris,New york etc with the prices at the moment

    For instance a family member recently bought a 5 bed house with a swimming pool in Vegas that works out at 195k Euros

    In most places you get what you pay for, but not Dublin

    The tax emeption rule will end, if prices continue as they have been doing the past year.

    A 2 bed close to transport links, the city and amenities will be more than €200k. You'd have to go more suburban for < €200k in a "decent" area.

    Vegas isnt really a great benchmark for a lot of obvious reasons.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 horsesfc88


    the_syco wrote: »
    Don't know why people wasted their time giving you their honest opinion, as opposed to what you wanted, which seems to have been "ZOMG, buy the house, what a bargain"...

    Thanks buddy you're hilarious


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    horsesfc88 wrote: »
    Thanks buddy you're hilarious

    As you appear to have lost interest in your own thread- I'm closing it. If you'd like it reopened, please PM me with a good reason to do so. Low grade sniping at forum regulars isn't very endearing.

    Regards,

    The_Conductor


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