Sunday 11th May

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Sunday Pricewise

Muwaary and Galiway can help to make it pay

THERE was a lot of negative comment after the Guineas at Newmarket last week when the runners split into two groups. That made life difficult for jockeys and punters but there were no real hard-luck stories and I would much prefer that to what normally unfolds over the mile at Longchamp, writes Tom Segal.

Today we have the two French Guineas and every year we get false results. There are always loads of hard-luck stories, with runners being constantly hampered up the straight, and clearly it is not easy to win from a high draw.

It's always best to play safe and go for something drawn low, although that means placing a big emphasis on the bravery of your jockey. Hopefully, Paul Hanagan will be fully recovered from his nasty fall at Chester in the week and be at his best for Muwaary, who is an interesting longshot in the Poule d'Essai des Poulains (2.45).

At the start of the season I reckon the aim for Muwaary was to go to the Britannia at Royal Ascot, but so well did he win at Newbury on his reappearance that those plans have been shelved for a crack at this Group 1. It is a massive step up in class, but who knows how good this unbeaten colt may turn out to be and he did look good last time.

With that form looking strong and a nice draw in stall two, it is possible Muwaary can win what doesn't appear to be a particularly strong Group 1.

In the same race I also suggest having a few quid on Galiway. Andre Fabre brought just two juveniles to Britain last year - the first was last week's 1,000 Guineas winner Miss France and the other was this horse, who was second in heavy ground at Newbury.

The vibes before that race were that Galiway was the best colt in the Fabre yard - and he still could be. Don't worry that he got beaten in his trial as we saw how much Miss France improved for her first start. Provided the ground doesn't get too soft, today could be the day we see what Galiway is really made of.

Francois Doumen is best known for winning Cheltenham Gold Cups and Stayers' Hurdles rather than Flat Classics, but he is a brilliant trainer who only handles Flat horses these days and he looks to have a really good one in Xcellance.

In last month's Prix Imprudence, which was contested by most of the best French fillies including Miss France, Xcellance travelled well and quickened up nicely to beat a really fast rival in Vorda.

Given her pedigree I can't believe Xcellance isn't going to be even better over the mile of today's Poule d'Essai des Pouliches (2.08) and I'm hoping she can pick up the front-running Lesstalk In Paris close home.

The best of the British looks to be J Wonder on form, but if the ground is soft it could be that Frankie Dettori's mount Al Thakira runs a big race too. She was just behind J Wonder in what used to be the Fred Darling and if there is rain she could reverse the placings, although she is drawn wide while J Wonder is in stall one.

Snow Sky put in a perfectly acceptable Derby trial at Lingfield yesterday, and if he goes to Epsom he would have an each-way chance. Having said that, he will have to step up to beat Australia and True Story and a bigger clue might come in the Derrinstown Stud Derby Trial (3.55) at Leopardstown this afternoon.

All Aidan O'Brien's three-year-olds are improving massively for the run this season and so Geoffrey Chaucer is going to have to be extremely good to beat Fascinating Rock and Obliterator on his seasonal reappearance.

Today's bets

Xcellance
2.08 Longchamp
1pt win at 9-1 with Coral
(15-2 with bet365)

Muwaary
2.45 Longchamp
1pt win at 12-1 with bet365 (11-1 with Betfred)

Galiway
2.45 Longchamp
1pt win at 9-1 with Boylesports (8-1 with Hills)

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Thanks for posting as always

I rarely follow but I'm always curious

UrbanSea

Dalasiri is a big price at 16s i the handicap at Killarney

bookman2

UrbanSea wrote: »

Dalasiri is a big price at 16s i the handicap at Killarney

Yes it sure is looks well overpriced. What do u make of Kalanns chances?

UrbanSea

bookman2 wrote: »

Yes it sure is looks well overpriced. What do u make of Kalanns chances?

Very frustrating horse-probably has a win in him off a mark like this but this is a hot race. Not for me but he could go well. I wouldn't necessarily put you off him but he probably should have more wins than he does

Johner

Will be backing Little King Robin in the 3.10 at Killarney. Ran a blinder last time out and this looks easier.

MoscowFlyer

Ellie Mia in the 2.40 Killarney has good form behind Margo last time out and that horse went on to win again at the Punchestown festival. Around 3/1 in most places

Johner

Johner wrote: »

Will be backing Little King Robin in the 3.10 at Killarney. Ran a blinder last time out and this looks easier.

Took the 3/1 earlier, hopefully she wins anyway as we own her dam.

UrbanSea

Took a chance on Elliptique here at Longchamp

UrbanSea

Look at the weather at Longchamp. Bucketing down


Lads is the clock on ATR wrong or did they go off slightly early there

BumperD

I reckon Paul Nolan's cat could run in the bumper at Killarney and give a good account of himself given the form the yard has been in the last few days but with a tissue price of 20\1, kennady looks to have been over bet into 2\1 fav imo .Ive backed Dr Waluigi ew and win @ 8\1.The same trainer/jockey/owner combo won this last yr with The Winkler and the horse has already put in a similar decent prep run which should have him spot on for today. Good luck today.

TheMilkyPirate

Done a Guineas double of Indonesienne and Galiway. Think they both ran good trials in the Grotte and the fontainebleu respectively.

superfurry1

Bentelimar 2nd race at Killarney if money down will win looks to have plenty of gears if wants to use them.

sdoc13

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Done a Guineas double of Indonesienne and Galiway. Think they both ran good trials in the Grotte and the fontainebleu respectively.

Have backed indonesienne as well. Also fancy galiway

Johner

Why can't ATR show Killarney before Longchamp. Wankbags.

Johner

Oh there's no pictures from Killarney. Listening to Dessie on commentary you wouldn't have a clue what's going to win. He's ****ing useless.

Nonoperational

Technical difficulties with the feed.

TheMilkyPirate

superfurry1 wrote: »

Bentelimar 2nd race at Killarney if money down will win looks to have plenty of gears if wants to use them.

Fair play.

Johner

Good man Ludlow. :rolleyes:

Off and running
Storm Alert already detached, jumped the first slowly
Barton Stacey leads
Hayjack lies second
Cloudy Bob third
Copper Birch, One Conemara & Sin Bin prominent
Smadynium makes mistake
Barton Stacey leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Hayjack third
Gallery Exhibition, One Conemara & Sin Bin prominent
Copper Birch makes mistake
Barton Stacey & Hayjack disputing
Cloudy Bob third
Copper Birch racing lazily
Barton Stacey leads
Hayjack lies second
Cloudy Bob third
One Conemara & Sin Bin prominent
Smadynium making headway
Hayjack leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Sin Bin third
Big Casino & One Conemara prominent
Barton Stacey losing ground
Hayjack leads
One Conemara going well
Hayjack leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Sin Bin third
Big Casino & One Conemara prominent
Smadynium next
Copper Birch running abysmally, he's pulling up
Hayjack leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Sin Bin third
One Conemara this is bizarre, the race is being stopped
VOID RACE - the starter was apparently waving his flag
all bets will be refunded

bumper234

Johner wrote: »

Good man Ludlow. :rolleyes:

Off and running
Storm Alert already detached, jumped the first slowly
Barton Stacey leads
Hayjack lies second
Cloudy Bob third
Copper Birch, One Conemara & Sin Bin prominent
Smadynium makes mistake
Barton Stacey leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Hayjack third
Gallery Exhibition, One Conemara & Sin Bin prominent
Copper Birch makes mistake
Barton Stacey & Hayjack disputing
Cloudy Bob third
Copper Birch racing lazily
Barton Stacey leads
Hayjack lies second
Cloudy Bob third
One Conemara & Sin Bin prominent
Smadynium making headway
Hayjack leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Sin Bin third
Big Casino & One Conemara prominent
Barton Stacey losing ground
Hayjack leads
One Conemara going well
Hayjack leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Sin Bin third
Big Casino & One Conemara prominent
Smadynium next
Copper Birch running abysmally, he's pulling up
Hayjack leads
Cloudy Bob lies second
Sin Bin third
One Conemara this is bizarre, the race is being stopped
VOID RACE - the starter was apparently waving his flag
all bets will be refunded

Was wondering what had happened, gob****es should be got rid of, flag waving tools that just like a bit of power ffs what difference would someone starting a few yards behind the pack make in a 3 mile race :mad:

Johner

Johner wrote: »

Will be backing Little King Robin in the 3.10 at Killarney. Ran a blinder last time out and this looks easier.

Disappointing not able to watch it but sounded like she bolted up by about 15 lengths. Get in.

MonkstownHoop

Johner wrote: »

Will be backing Little King Robin in the 3.10 at Killarney. Ran a blinder last time out and this looks easier.

Cheers, was looking for a horse to make up a treble in shop this morning, god bless you and boylesports free Wifi

NaiveMelodies

How many graded/listed races is that for Weld this season?

BorneTobyWilde

Ebanoran 3.55 8-1 ew
I think it will keep closer tabs on leader this time and challenge for victory.

jimjamcos

Ridiculous strike rate Weld has at the moment. Well done anyone here that has got on Fascinating Rock @ 3's in next. Think seen some of yous did the other day.

BorneTobyWilde

Princess Aloof 20-1 ew 4.20
The better ground should improve it's performance . Ran a decent race two back over this trip. Intensical who finished 12 lengths behind her that day went on to win a similar race to this.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Ebanoran 3.55 8-1 ew
I think it will keep closer tabs on leader this time and challenge for victory.

Knew it would be hard to pass if it got in lead.

BorneTobyWilde

Smullen should not have let it steal a few lengths . Should of known Ebanoran keeps on.

jimjamcos

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Knew it would be hard to pass if it got in lead.

Shout!

Dubron

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Princess Aloof 20-1 ew 4.20
The better ground should improve it's performance . Ran a decent race two back over this trip. Intensical who finished 12 lengths behind her that day went on to win a similar race to this.

Fancy this myself, getting the 3yo and fillies allowances and Corby is the one of the best claimers in the country, unbelievable value for his 7 lbs.

bumper234

Dubron wrote: »

Fancy this myself, getting the 3yo and fillies allowances and Corby is the one of the best claimers in the country, unbelievable value for his 7 lbs.

Got on e/w @ 16's myself.

kiers47

I don't really like this summer jumps craic but I was sure Bonobo in the next at Ludlow would be odds on or close to it. Currently 7/4 with Broadway buffalo the favourite.

Has a penalty to carry but I don't think this race will take much winning even with McCoy on the fav

It's almost bomb proof!! Should take all the beating.

kiers47

They reversed that leopardstown race in the end. Probably the right call.

Ebanoran will most likely come on from that though and you wouldn't be taking short odds on fascinating rock if they met again.

BorneTobyWilde

Ebanoran has lost his 1st place to fascinating rock .

jimjamcos

Unlucky!

kiers47

kiers47 wrote: »

I don't really like this summer jumps craic but I was sure Bonobo in the next at Ludlow would be odds on or close to it. Currently 7/4 with Broadway buffalo the favourite.

Has a penalty to carry but I don't think this race will take much winning even with McCoy on the fav

It's almost bomb proof!! Should take all the beating.

The prices here are way out. Gone in again at 2s gonna be a really good day or a day where I will regret looking at a ****e Ludlow card!!!

kiers47

That's what I get for looking at these bad jumping cards!! Wasn't even in first 3 after trading about 8/11 in the run.

BorneTobyWilde

Starchitect was making ground while Marakoush was losing it last time out, at 11-1
I fancy Starchitect to place at least
11-1 ew 5.25

NaiveMelodies

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Starchitect was making ground while Marakoush was losing it last time out, at 11-1
I fancy Starchitect to place at least
11-1 ew 5.25

Was thinking of backing this earlier, shaped reasonably well lto.. but 2 places.. no thanks.
G'luck.

kiers47

O Brien runner really strong usually a good sign for them!!

kiers47

Bit of a boil over there. O briens runner ran a nice introductory I thought. Will certainly win a maiden of this level.

tryfix

kiers47 wrote: »

They reversed that leopardstown race in the end. Probably the right call.

Ebanoran will most likely come on from that though and you wouldn't be taking short odds on fascinating rock if they met again.

Geoffrey Chaucer is probably the horse to take out of the race, he was conceding 3lbs and interfered with twice in running in a very slowly run race ( 12.45 seconds slow ) and not beaten far. He was eased down after not finding room when going for the finish with Fascinating Rock and he was easy to back in the market. O'Brien stated earlier this week that he'd be better in the second half of the season, so that was a very promising run.

There's a lot of stamina in his pedigree, the Grand Prix De Paris and Leger look like likely targets for him.

diomed

I was very happy to back Geoffrey Chaucer for the Derby at 25s after watching the Derrinstown a few times on Youtube.

bookman2

bookman2 wrote: »

Yes it sure is looks well overpriced. What do u make of Kalanns chances?

Disappointing run from dalasiri stopped very quickly. Kalann ran slightly better but probably needs to drop a few pounds to be competitive again

BumperD

BumperD wrote: »

I reckon Paul Nolan's cat could run in the bumper at Killarney and give a good account of himself given the form the yard has been in the last few days but with a tissue price of 20\1, kennady looks to have been over bet into 2\1 fav imo .Ive backed Dr Waluigi ew and win @ 8\1.The same trainer/jockey/owner combo won this last yr with The Winkler and the horse has already put in a similar decent prep run which should have him spot on for today. Good luck today.

Couldn't see race but from commentary was up there throughout but faded quite tamely at the business end.