New Car For 19 y/o

9bred4

Hi there, I'm 19 and on my provisional. I drive under a named driver but am looking for a new car. I have a 1.3 01 Ford Fiesta as of now but want to upgrade to a Golf or maybe a Civic. I'm not a boy racer before I get the abuse. Does anyone have any suggestions to a car maybe on DoneDeal etc?

Thanks.

fermanagh_man

Let us know your budget, how many km you plan to do yearly??

9bred4

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Let us know your budget, how many km you plan to do yearly??

Budget for the car would be about 1500 for the car (not including insurance, etc)

Im a student so it won't be heavy usage. Whatever is considered 'typical'

colm_mcm

Insurance company will kill you on a civic, I'm 31 or 32 and my insurance on a 3.0 jaguar was less than I'm paying on a 1.8 civic now.

9bred4

colm_mcm wrote: »

Insurance company will kill you on a civic, I'm 31 or 32 and my insurance on a 3.0 jaguar was less than I'm paying on a 1.8 civic now.

Well in that case I will stick with the Golf

Spike Witwicky

9bred4 wrote: »

Well in that case I will stick with the Golf

Probably still gonna be expensive. Golf n Civic considered "boy racer" cars by insurance companies

9bred4

Spike Witwicky wrote: »

Probably still gonna be expensive. Golf n Civiv considered "boy racer" cars by insurance companies

I disagree, many of my friends have a Golf and are paying reasonable amounts. A Golf is very versatile and suits a huge demographic of people

Spike Witwicky

9bred4 wrote: »

I disagree, many of my friends have a Golf and are paying reasonable amounts. A Golf is very versatile and suits a huge demographic of people

Still get a quote before you buy one

9bred4

Spike Witwicky wrote: »

Still get a quote before you buy one

Are you able to do so? For some reason I thought you needed the car! Might pop into the broker Monday and ask. Thanks!

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

Insurance company will kill you on a civic, I'm 31 or 32 and my insurance on a 3.0 jaguar was less than I'm paying on a 1.8 civic now.

The op will have no trouble getting insurance on an Irish/uk Civic as a named driver.

Going out on their own or trying to get insured on a jap import is a different story though.

Spike Witwicky

9bred4 wrote: »

Are you able to do so? For some reason I thought you needed the car! Might pop into the broker Monday and ask. Thanks!

Just give your broker the reg of the car you're thinkin of buyin

9bred4

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The op will have no trouble getting insurance on an Irish/uk Civic as a named driver.

Going out on their own or trying to get insured on a jap import is a different story though.

So you reckon an Irish/UK Civic shouldn't be too bad?

Spike Witwicky

9bred4 wrote: »

So you reckon an Irish/UK Civic shouldn't be too bad?

Try some online quotes from insurance companies and see what they quote. (or not as a lot may not quote at all)

9bred4

Spike Witwicky wrote: »

Try some online quotes from insurance companies and see what they quote. (or not as a lot may not quote at all)

Oh God no they're no good at my age. Even under a named driver they'd be throwing out quotes of 2 grand. Ain't nobody got time for that

Spike Witwicky

9bred4 wrote: »

Oh God no they're no good at my age. Even under a named driver they'd be throwing out quotes of 2 grand. Ain't nobody got time for that

True but that's not a completely unrealistic number. Young drivers get hammered on insurance no matter what they drive.

JohnBoy26

9bred4 wrote: »

So you reckon an Irish/UK Civic shouldn't be too bad?

Sorry I just realized your on a learner permit. You might be better off getting your full license before getting a car. I still think you'll be able to get insured on an Irish civic without much bother and for not much/ if any more than the equivalent alternatives.

9bred4

Spike Witwicky wrote: »

True but that's not a completely unrealistic number. Young drivers get hammered on insurance no matter what they drive.

Well my current quote on the Fiesta is only around the €750 mark!

Spike Witwicky

9bred4 wrote: »

Well my current quote on the Fiesta is only around the €750 mark!

Then i'd be sticking with the fiesta!

9bred4

Spike Witwicky wrote: »

Then i'd be sticking with the fiesta!

As much as I do like the Fiesta , I'm probably a bit big for it ha. It'd be nice if it was the size of a golf!

rizzodun

I'd avoid a civic if I were you, fabulous cars but I went from a 1.4 civic to 1.5 almera and got better cover & wife on learner permit as named driver for less than just myself on the civic, with full license and 3 years no claims at the time, aged 29, civic was heavily loaded, in a different insurance class. No experience of golfs though. Just my two cents, things may have relaxed in the last two years.

JohnBoy26

rizzodun wrote: »

I'd avoid a civic if I were you, fabulous cars but I went from a 1.4 civic to 1.5 almera and got better cover & wife on learner permit as named driver for less than just myself on the civic, with full license and 3 years no claims at the time, aged 29, civic was heavily loaded, in a different insurance class. No experience of golfs though. Just my two cents, things may have relaxed in the last two years.

There wasn't much difference between a civic and a 00 almera for me, around €50, this was around 5 years back.

Nino Brown

rizzodun wrote: »

I'd avoid a civic if I were you, fabulous cars but I went from a 1.4 civic to 1.5 almera and got better cover & wife on learner permit as named driver for less than just myself on the civic, with full license and 3 years no claims at the time, aged 29, civic was heavily loaded, in a different insurance class. No experience of golfs though. Just my two cents, things may have relaxed in the last two years.

From what I've heard Golfs are being loaded lately too, because young lads have a thing for VAG's now. I would guess a 19 year old on a Golf would be paying north of E1500 for sure. But that's just a guess.

rizzodun

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

There wasn't much difference between a civic and a 00 almera for me, around €50, this was around 5 years back.

Isn't that mad? Shows how different people can have vastly different experiences of insurance companies. I know age/location etc can make a difference but sometimes you wonder where some companies pull a figure from.

9bred4

Nino Brown wrote: »

From what I've heard Golfs are being loaded lately too, because young lads have a thing for VAG's now. I would guess a 19 year old on a Golf would be paying north of E1500 for sure. But that's just a guess.

Under a named driver? Surely it wouldn't be twice the cost of the Fiesta insurance!!

rizzodun

Nino Brown wrote: »

From what I've heard Golfs are being loaded lately too, because young lads have a thing for VAG's now. I would guess a 19 year old on a Golf would be paying north of E1500 for sure. But that's just a guess.

I also heard 1.4 boras are near impossible to insure due to their popularity by young drivers. I don't even know why their so well liked.

9bred4

rizzodun wrote: »

I also heard 1.4 boras are near impossible to insure due to their popularity by young drivers. I don't even know why their so well liked.

They seem to be on the rise actually, I agree with you, no appeal whatsoever.

Spike Witwicky

OP what are your friends paying on a Golf? and are they on a named provisional?

Moneymaker

Golf's are on the insurance blacklist now too. You might be alright on a 1.4 Golf but you don't want a 1.4 Golf.

And Civic's are insane for premiums.

If you want something better without an absurd premium, why not try a Corolla or a Focus?

9bred4

Spike Witwicky wrote: »

OP what are your friends paying on a Golf? and are they on a named provisional?

Around the grand mark!

And yes they are

9bred4

Moneymaker wrote: »

Golf's are on the insurance blacklist now too. You might be alright on a 1.4 Golf but you don't want a 1.4 Golf.

And Civic's are insane for premiums.

If you want something better without an absurd premium, why not try a Corolla or a Focus?

Why don't I want a 1.4 Golf ha. A Focus isn't a bad one actually forgot them

Moneymaker

9bred4 wrote: »

Why don't I want a 1.4 Golf ha. A Focus isn't a bad one actually forgot them

Because the 1.4 Golf is ****e.

Newer 1.4 tsi is a big improvement but an older 1.4 Golf isn't a nice car to drive. It's underpowered and generally has a ****e spec.

1.6 Focus or a Corolla would be spot on. The 1.4 Corolla is a lot better then the 1.4 in the Golf or Focus.

9bred4

Moneymaker wrote: »

Because the 1.4 Golf is ****e.

Newer 1.4 tsi is a big improvement but an older 1.4 Golf isn't a nice car to drive. It's underpowered and generally has a ****e spec.

1.6 Focus or a Corolla would be spot on. The 1.4 Corolla is a lot better then the 1.4 in the Golf or Focus.

I've heard that they're underpowered alright. A corolla wouldn't be much bigger than a Fiesta would it though?

Moneymaker

9bred4 wrote: »

A corolla wouldn't be much bigger than a Fiesta would it though?

You won't know til you sit in one really. Personally I find them fine space wise for what they are.

Best advice though is get your full licence. It'll help a lot and therefore open up a wider choice of cars.

9bred4

Moneymaker wrote: »

You won't know til you sit in one really. Personally I find them fine space wise for what they are.

Best advice though is get your full licence. It'll help a lot and therefore open up a wider choice of cars.

I know but it's just I don't like the Fiesta's size really. Any suggestion on DD for a car?

Moneymaker

These 4 might be worth a look.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-ford-focus/6851468 - Bit overpriced imo but looks clean and long NCT.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-00/6882200 - Oil burning can be an issue with the 1.4 vvti, some of the more knowledgeable Toyota guys on here can probably tell you more. Looks clean though.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1997-honda-civic/6916650 - Get an insurance quote and see. Those saloons are basically bulletproof and are nice to drive.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-primera/6908549 - Ditto!

9bred4

Thanks for them! I was considering more the hatchback line but these aren't bad shouts at all