Emergency Landing At Dublin Airport

Trebor176

A US Airways plane made an emergency landing at Dublin Airport earlier. It seems several crew were struck down with illness. I hope everyone on board is ok. I saw pictures on Twitter a while ago. Quite a large turnout of emergency services

http://www.thejournal.ie/plane-diverted-to-dublin-airport-after-crew-becomes-unwell-1458287-May2014/

sparrowcar

Looks like a good few of them are gone off to hospital.

Locker10a

Food poisoning??

RadioRetro

Public health alert issued over this case. Crew members began complaining of nausea, dizziness and watery eyes.

All passengers transported to a local hotel.

Locker10a

RadioRetro wrote: »

Public health alert issued over this case. Crew members began complaining of nausea, dizziness and watery eyes.

All passengers transported to a local hotel.

Sounds like the picked up a nasty bug or worse virus

ProfessorPlum

The watery eyes and dizziness sound more like a reaction to a chemical - no pax involved though - strange. Hope they're all ok.

Kenny2012

A picture of N284AY A330 on the stands surrounded by fire trucks.

https://flic.kr/p/nhha9x

kub

Could they have landed in a worse country for urgent medical care, I wonder how long they were waiting at A&E for?

flazio

kub wrote: »

Could they have landed in a worse country for urgent medical care, I wonder how long they were waiting at A&E for?

They were probably bumped up while everyone else was left waiting outside or diverted to other hospitals.

lambayire

I was up at the airport with the kids this afternoon. I had no technology with me.

We got there just before 3 and parked alongside 28.

Not long after, a load of ambulances drove by and it looked like they were stopped down near the cemetary. I just thought there must have been a bad traffic accident.There were also some Garda cars parked beside 28. I thought they might have been doing speed camera work. That must be like shooting fish in a barrel on that road.

And then the US Airways flight came in so slowly to land. It looked like the plane was barely moving. I thought it
a bit odd that an American fight would be coming in at that hour of the day. It never occurred to me that that was an emergency.

As it taxied back towards the terminal, the fire brigades came into view and then the ambulances. I had never seen this before.
And then the penny dropped that there must be a medical emergency or a disruptive passengeron board. They took a while to get folk off the plane.

Why would the fire brigades be needed? So much fuel on board?

We were happy just to see EI DVM depart. My little one refers to it a "the new old Aer Lingus" and then he gets to see the ambulances and fire brigades.

I though it funny that the media reported that the plane was at a remote part of the airport when it was right between the old B area and the new terminal.

I hope all the crew are well. I am sure they got some preferential treatment at Beaumont or wherever they ended up.

fr336

Anyone an idea of the time of this please?

lambayire

Came in at around 3.10pm this afternoon.

fr336

Thanks!

donkey balls

flazio wrote: »

They were probably bumped up while everyone else was left waiting outside or diverted to other hospitals.

It doesn't matter who a person is when brought through A&E all patients are triage and treated accordingly.

kub

donkey balls wrote: »

It doesn't matter who a person is when brought through A&E all patients are triage and treated accordingly.

Oh dear they must be still there so waiting amongst the junkies and wino's, that will leave a lasting impression of this place on their minds.

fr336

kub wrote: »

Oh dear they must be still there so waiting amongst the junkies and wino's, that will leave a lasting impression of this place on their minds.

They won't be getting sick again over Ireland you can bet that :pac:

P.S. Being such a big Ireland fan and wanting to move there someday, you guys really aren't selling it Then again every country complains about themselves.

donkey balls

Yep they could well be

lord lucan

lambayire wrote: »

Why would the fire brigades be needed? So much fuel on board?

That's it in a nutshell, she'd still be pretty heavy as she was only a couple of hours into her flight to PHL. The fire tenders are a precaution should she burst tyres or have her brakes get fried.

gctest50

lambayire wrote: »

Why would the fire brigades be needed? So much fuel on board?

They dump some fuel too so it wouldn't have too much landing - the little pipe things near the end of the wing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwhCKGjnf-w

fr336

gctest50 wrote: »

They'd just dump the fuel - the little pipe things near the end of the wing

I don't think a lot of aircraft can do that actually. Could be wrong.

grimbergen

There seem to be more and more of these emergency landings in ireland these days - does anybody know if the airports make money off them, as in the airline have to pay for the cost of the services provided?

Before anyone says, I know obviously that these only land where there's a genuine emergency etc.

donkey balls

With the likes of US airways diversion today Servisair/swissport who do the handling for them in Dublin would look after the flight regarding ground ops,The same would also apply to catering and fueling companies.

gctest50

fr336 wrote: »

I don't think a lot of aircraft can do that actually. Could be wrong.

I'm not sure really - some do it better than others though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjycL0qEgs

fr336

gctest50 wrote: »

I'm not sure really - some do it better than others though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjycL0qEgs

:eek::eek::eek: Amazing! Was that all for show?

gctest50

the fuel dump pipe is near the engines on them

- maybe for a reason ? last ditch effort for putting off heat seeking missiles ? or would it be hot enough ? dunno

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=f111+dump+and+burn

L1011

fr336 wrote: »

I don't think a lot of aircraft can do that actually. Could be wrong.

Most widebodies, very few narrowbodies. Older types more likely to have it than new (in general).

Strumms

I was told by so one in the... Well who should be in the know that the fuel jettison system is a customer option in the A330 family. I'm guessing it would be possible depending on the load factor and they cargo they were carrying that they could have been under MLW. For any instance where an aircraft diverts due to multiple crew being Ill or potentially incapacitated they will roll the trucks generally, hot breaks would definitely be a concern too.

fr336

As far as I can tell from flightradar24, the flight is still in Dub.

Nonoperational

kub wrote: »

Could they have landed in a worse country for urgent medical care, I wonder how long they were waiting at A&E for?

Pretty ill informed comment. If they were a genuine emergency that would have gotten excellent medical care.

lord lucan

fr336 wrote: »

As far as I can tell from flightradar24, the flight is still in Dub.

It won't leave until today at the earliest. I'd imagine US are sending a reserve crew in on this mornings flight from PHL to operate it home and the ill crew will return on a scheduled service once they're given the all clear.

rovoagho

Nonoperational wrote: »

Pretty ill informed comment. If they were a genuine emergency that would have gotten excellent medical care.

They would. Eventually.

LXFlyer

From experience, Saturday afternoons are generally the quietest times at A & E so I doubt there would be a huge issue.

Not really sure what any of that has to do with the Aviation forum though.

stopthepanic

lord lucan wrote: »

I'd imagine US are sending a reserve crew in on this mornings flight from PHL to operate it home

Surely there is no way a crew that came in today can just hop back on another flight and 'work' back across the Atlantic........and stop calling be 'Surely'.:)

kub

Nonoperational wrote: »

Pretty ill informed comment. If they were a genuine emergency that would have gotten excellent medical care.

Well my sincerest apologies, problem is I listen to the media and have always gotten the impression that we had a serious issue in this country with our emergency departments.

So I must be wrong and you know better, fair dues.

Simon Gruber Says

stopthepanic wrote: »

Surely there is no way a crew that came in today can just hop back on another flight and 'work' back across the Atlantic........and stop calling be 'Surely'.:)

Think he meant they'd be in the back as passengers on the way over. It's a different aircraft type anyway from the normal Dublin service, they'd need an A330 crew flown in. Regardless of the type they'd need an extra crew because of the extra plane

lord lucan

stopthepanic wrote: »

Surely there is no way a crew that came in today can just hop back on another flight and 'work' back across the Atlantic........and stop calling be 'Surely'.:)

As mentioned above, they'd come in as pax and would work the flight home late today or early tomorrow depending on what sort of SOPs US have in place regarding crew rest etc.

And just to add, US are using an A330 on the DUB - PHL route for the summer.

ProfessorPlum

kub wrote: »

Well my sincerest apologies, problem is I listen to the media and have always gotten the impression that we had a serious issue in this country with our emergency departments.

So I must be wrong and you know better, fair dues.

I've often found 'the media' to be notoriously unreliable when reporting 'fact'. Despite what you might think, we do have a good health service, not without it's problems granted. Those with life threatening illness will be seen immediately, and others prioritised according to need. I can't imagine where you might think a better place for the aircraft to divert to might be?

Strumms

Where would be better for a medical diversion in the circumstances ? Land at Dublin and you will have patients receiving assessment and or medical care as needed within 5-10 minutes of leaving the airport (Beaumont) or 10-15 minutes (The Mater). That is why DUB is in many airline databases as a desired medical diversion if required. As for the quality of healthcare...

LXFlyer

As I posted above I've had reason to use A & E recently, and I couldn't praise the staff or indeed the facilities highly enough. They were attentive, efficient and highly professional.

I think people casting stones in that direction should have a long hard think about it before doing so, as it is quite frankly highly unfair and insulting to the professionalism of our medical staff.

Dublin is a a good a location as any to facilitate an emergency such as this.

ProfessorPlum

Strumms wrote: »

.... As for the quality of healthcare...

Ye see, this kind of comment is just ill informed and plain wrong. If you'd care to look, the quality of healthcare in this country, particular if you're looking at the larger referral centres such as Beaumont and the Mater, is up there with the best. But the sensationalist headlines you'll see in the press will capture everyone's attention. Much like the press often report aviation stories. Don't believe everything you read (or infer) in the papers.

lord lucan

Can we please keep on topic and take discussion of our health service to another forum.

ProfessorPlum

Well, a poster was questioning Ireland( and by inference Dublin) as a suitable option for a medical diversion, which I think is relevant to the forum. Others were just putting him right. But fair enough, I think he should have got it by now.

Nonoperational

rovoagho wrote: »

They would. Eventually.

Complete nonsense. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

kub wrote: »

Well my sincerest apologies, problem is I listen to the media and have always gotten the impression that we had a serious issue in this country with our emergency departments.

So I must be wrong and you know better, fair dues.

I do indeed know better. Fair play for conceding this because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

The implication that Ireland is a poor location for an emergency landing based on anecdotal media reports that have nothing to do with genuine emergencies is disingenuous as well as being utterly ignorant.

The level of care for genuine emergencies is outstanding. God forbid anyone hear has a heart attack and you'll see how quickly you are into the cath lab and have a stent in place. A&E gets busy, of course it does, but real emergencies are taken care of.

andy_g

Guys one mod has already asked to get back on topic so please do. If you want to discuss hospital's etc take it to the health forum or emergency services forum.

stopthepanic

The aircraft is positioning out to Philadelphia at 1430 local as US9190.

adam88

Was it just the cabin crew. Were the pilots affected. Any idea what happened them. Dodgy food at their hotel ????

rovoagho

Out of curiosity, is it true that the pilot and co-pilot are required to have different meals, or is that just an old wives tale?

andy_g

rovoagho wrote: »

Out of curiosity, is it true that the pilot and co-pilot are required to have different meals, or is that just an old wives tale?

This is true in most airlines

ProfessorPlum

rovoagho wrote: »

Out of curiosity, is it true that the pilot and co-pilot are required to have different meals, or is that just an old wives tale?

That's an interesting point though. As Andy has said, most airlines do have a policy in place regarding crews eating different meals on board, however, crew meals that are provided by airlines are generally prepared under the most rigorous conditions, and I would imagine that the incidence of food poisoning related to 'crew meals' is very low. Also given that the incubation period for most types of food poisoning would be in the 'many hours - days' bracket (although there are some with much shorter incubation periods), the risk of food poisoning would be much greater from food that they had consumed prior to flying e.g. a crew having a meal together before pick up / at the airport. I'm not sure that point is hammered home to pilots or airlines enough. While crews are generally aware that they should choose different meals on board (very low risk), I don't think many would think twice about eating the same kung pao chicken the night before!

ivyQ

When I first saw this in the papers I immediately thought of the MERS virus:eek:

flazio

Really? My first thought was, 'They had the fish for dinner'