Deep rim wheels

Ronan5000

Is there any major advantage to getting deep rim wheels for my road bike?

Inquitus

They look cool and make a whooshing noise, may be some aero benefits at 35kph+.

No Pants

Does anyone find that they catch crosswinds much?

Inquitus

No Pants wrote: »

Does anyone find that they catch crosswinds much?

Aye they do, it's not too bad, it's generally gaps in hedges for gates etc. that can catch you out, or if it's very gusty. Mine are only 50mm mind, if you have really deep wheels I would imagine if it's really breezy you would want to leave them at home.

No Pants

Inquitus wrote: »

Aye they do, it's not too bad, it's generally gaps in hedges for gates etc. that can catch you out, or if it's very gusty. Mine are only 50mm mind, if you have really deep wheels I would imagine if it's really breezy you would want to leave them at home.

I would have thought that the rider would catch most of the wind and the bike only a small bit, regardless of wind.

Inquitus

No Pants wrote: »

I would have thought that the rider would catch most of the wind and the bike only a small bit, regardless of wind.

Aye but when a gust catches the deep section front wheel it applies a steering force to the handlebars this can catch you by surprise and cause you to crash.

Chips Lovell

You'd feel the front wheel in cross winds alright. I've raced on them in high winds before and while you'd definitely notice it, it's never felt dangerous (so far..).

Cee-Jay-Cee

I have fulrum quattros which are 35mm and even they can catch a fair bit more side wind than regular section wheels, its nothing major but is noticeable.

dermur

You'll get used to them quick enough but will definitely notice deep section on the front...you'd want to keep as light a grip on the bars as possible so that any twitches in the wheel go no further.

And be careful when turning into a crosswind/headwind...it can affect you course. I've been blown over to the oncoming traffic lane once or twice. That's not fun...

Mechanic365

Another advantage to deep sections is they feel nicer to absorb the harshness of a rough sureface (sortof). I find alluminium rims very uncomfy on a padly paved road.
And aswell a set of ksyrium sl wheels are around the price of decent carbons but if you go for a fairly mainstream carbon rim its cheap to replace,

Chips Lovell

I'd have to disagree with that. You're the first person I've ever seen claim that deep section wheels make for a more comfortable ride. They're designed (or meant to be designed) to be stiff and unyielding and will bounce around more on rough roads. Is it possible that you're attributing the comfort benefit of tubs to the rims?

rab!dmonkey

http://youtu.be/cS3CD8Eiv1U?t=42s

lennymc

tubs ride so much nicer than clinchers.

Lumen

I've never had handling problems on my 50mm wheels in high winds. Sure, the front end wanders a bit, but it never felt dangerous.

Somewhat disagree with the "keep light grip on bars" suggestion.

Mechanic365

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I'd have to disagree with that. You're the first person I've ever seen claim that deep section wheels make for a more comfortable ride. They're designed (or meant to be designed) to be stiff and unyielding and will bounce around more on rough roads. Is it possible that you're attributing the comfort benefit of tubs to the rims?

Your right aswell, im on about vibration, carbon (or at least my carbon) wheels soak up vibrations a bit better than full on aluminium. And ive never used tubs!
And yes theyre designed to be tough and stiff but its the material properties im referring to, the way it flexes.
Anyways its very minor

Chips Lovell

Mechanic365 wrote: »

carbon (or at least my carbon) wheels soak up vibrations a bit better than full on aluminium.

That's what I was disagreeing with.

pgibbo

Where's the best value on deep sectioned wheels? Legit brands. Cheers.

Lumen

pgibbo wrote: »

Where's the best value on deep sectioned wheels? Legit brands. Cheers.

Clinchers? Tubs?

pgibbo

Clinchers - thinking 80mm - 808s or the likes

Lumen

pgibbo wrote: »

Clinchers - thinking 80mm - 808s or the likes

80mm aren't legal for road racing AFAIK. For TTs I wouldn't bother with 80s either, I'd stick a disc on the back and a trispoke on the front.

Chips Lovell

808s are race legal

pgibbo

Lumen wrote: »

80mm aren't legal for road racing AFAIK. For TTs I wouldn't bother with 80s either, I'd stick a disc on the back and a trispoke on the front.

it's for tri.......runs and hides :pac:

Mechanic365

The cheapest you'll get anyway would be shop-yishunbike.com but these are pretty much china, customizable with powerway hubs nd stuff like that though.
Im no expert as seen above but id say cheapest known brand maybe detec or wheelsmith wheels

Lumen

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

808s are race legal

Ah ok. Must haven't just been a rumour.

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116730&sid=0af7e379b80b2fc37c3d23ebc930c9d7&start=0

Solobally8

I'm about to bite the bullet and buy some deep rim wheels too. Don't have much to spend and have no experience with tubs so have been looking at campag bullet 50 clinchers or fast forward F6R. Would anyone have an opinion on which would be better to go with?

Mechanic365

Solobally8 wrote: »

I'm about to bite the bullet and buy some deep rim wheels too. Don't have much to spend and have no experience with tubs so have been looking at campag bullet 50 clinchers or fast forward F6R. Would anyone have an opinion on which would be better to go with?

What hubs are the ffwd's coming with, they are a brilliant;y built wheel especially with the dt swiss 240s hubs absolutely sublime

Solobally8

Mechanic365 wrote: »

What hubs are the ffwd's coming with, they are a brilliant;y built wheel especially with the dt swiss 240s hubs absolutely sublime

It just says FFWD hubs so I'm not sure what that means. I've decided to go with the campag bullets, was drawn to them for some reason.

Briando

pgibbo wrote: »

it's for tri.......runs and hides :pac:

Token do a good wheelset 50mm Front and 80mm rear for about 1k. Seen some in use at duathlons earlier this year and look really nice. They also make some really good bearings for their wheels.

For less than 1k you could probably pick up Campagnolo Bullet 80 wheel set.

I'm on a 80 front(and have a tri spoke I never use) and rear disc if I was to buy again I'd probably go for 50/60mm on the front and 80 on the rear because its more versatile.

Mechanic365

Solobally8 wrote: »

It just says FFWD hubs so I'm not sure what that means. I've decided to go with the campag bullets, was drawn to them for some reason.

They were ffwd hubs then, the dtswiss would have 240s written on them, have fun with the campags!

pgibbo

Briando wrote: »

Token do a good wheelset 50mm Front and 80mm rear for about 1k. Seen some in use at duathlons earlier this year and look really nice. They also make some really good bearings for their wheels.

For less than 1k you could probably pick up Campagnolo Bullet 80 wheel set.

I'm on a 80 front(and have a tri spoke I never use) and rear disc if I was to buy again I'd probably go for 50/60mm on the front and 80 on the rear because its more versatile.

Where can you get Token wheels? Looks like UK only - http://www.tokencycling.com/dealer.php?dlz_id=86

Also, has anyone bought Flo wheels? They get decent reviews. I've mailed them but no repsonse.

XtotheZ

Ive ffwd f4r's. Abit heavier than anything else but very stiff. Rear rim cracked at the nipple hole and is in getting repaired also bearings just went. There is also ment to be problems with braking surface ive heard?? not uniform or something like that but iv never really noticed

Mechanic365

XtotheZ wrote: »

Ive ffwd f4r's. Abit heavier than anything else but very stiff. Rear rim cracked at the nipple hole and is in getting repaired also bearings just went. There is also ment to be problems with braking surface ive heard?? not uniform or something like that but iv never really noticed

Get on to ffwd straight away and they offer half price crash replacement rims and they will rebuild your wheeln for discounted price

XtotheZ

Mechanic365 wrote: »

Get on to ffwd straight away and they offer half price crash replacement rims and they will rebuild your wheeln for discounted price

There in getting repaired now

Mechanic365

XtotheZ wrote: »

There in getting repaired now

They maybe have to be in warranty but a mate got it done on his f6r 240s after a crash, new rim , spokes, bearings and built for 400 incl postage afaik.

XtotheZ wrote: »

. There is also ment to be problems with braking surface ive heard?? not uniform or something like that but iv never really noticed

They brake really well with swisstop yellow flash pads (if they are the full carbon rim ones) but they do make a whizzing sound. Theres also alluminium braking sureface on some ive seen.

XtotheZ

Mechanic365 wrote: »

They maybe have to be in warranty but a mate got it done on his f6r 240s after a crash, new rim , spokes, bearings and built for 400 incl postage afaik.




They brake really well with swisstop yellow flash pads (if they are the full carbon rim ones) but they do make a whizzing sound. Theres also alluminium braking sureface on some ive seen.

i emailed them twice about it and they never responded.

ive the aluminium surface and use swisssop flash greens