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What should a beginner's weekly grocery list look like?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    Lots of tinnes food isn't full of salt. There is a suggestion that the likes of BPA is present where the contents of the can are more acidic and the lining of the can is prone to leach it into it. But I don't use chopped tomatoes every day or all that often so I'm not likely to overdose in it anytime soon.

    Most people use canned food for convenience but not every day so I don't see it as a problem.

    I never for a minute suggested it wasn't. I just suggested that canned food and processed food are not bad for you and especially not in the context of the levels at which most people consume them.

    not sure. A lot of people consume huge ammounts of canned / convenient food. Anyway thats not our issue so its irrelevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mickman wrote: »
    not sure. A lot of people consume huge ammounts of canned / convenient food. Anyway thats not our issue so its irrelevant.

    I don't know any.

    But in the context of the photo of food that was posted, I don't see a problem with the canned food that was present.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Is all this arguing really that healthy ? Mind and spirit is also important as well as body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 typicalstudent


    You can often get a large box of like 60 chicken breasts in your local butchers. Not ideal if you haven't got the storage but freezing them and using them as needed, like cook 4 at a time and just leave them in the fridge for the day or two before you eat them. Buying in bulk is obviously a lot cheaper, again, storage is the only problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    ryan101 wrote: »
    I would be careful what chickens and pork you buy, chickens and pigs on some farms are pumped full of antibiotics and all sorts of other treatments just so they live until market delivery time. I've seen this first hand myself.

    I spent my teens and 20s pumping my body full of all sorts a few digested antibiotics isnt going to worry me.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Why?

    Because frozen veg tastes like much compared to good veg. :p
    I doubt there is much nutritionally different between commercial veg and frozen veg, as both process remove nutrients from the food to a similar degree.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    I smoke about ten , fifteen cigs a day depending on whether Im drinking like a pirate or not.
    Will changing the frozen veg to fresh veg cancel this out?



    :•)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭homemadecider


    mickman wrote: »
    tinned food is full of salt and other chemicals

    No salt in tinned fruit, which is what it looks like at the front of the pic that was posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭cson


    No salt in tinned fruit, which is what it looks like at the front of the pic that was posted.

    Tinned fruit is jammed with sugar though, so just be wary of that.

    The photo posted is probably a healthier shop than 90% of the population; tinned sweetcorn (?) and frozen veg aren't exactly packed full of sugar and salt.

    Personally I'd aim to get 50% of what I eat from fresh sources, not always possible but always worth the effort imo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    cson wrote: »
    Tinned fruit is jammed with sugar though, so just be wary of that.

    The photo posted is probably a healthier shop than 90% of the population; tinned sweetcorn (?) and frozen veg aren't exactly packed full of sugar and salt.

    Personally I'd aim to get 50% of what I eat from fresh sources, not always possible but always worth the effort imo.

    Theres sugar in the tinned fruit but not the tinned veg? Well I never....... I wonder whats causeing that.

    Its like somebody took all the sugar out of the vegetables.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mickman wrote: »
    It was placed in boiling water to kill bacteria (there is most of the vitamins gone)
    But boiling/cooking/roasting at home won't have the same effect. :rolleyes:

    Plus Freezing it some after picking stops nutrients dropping further. Something in the supermarket might be a few days old, at best.


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    You are some Buzz Killington mickman :D

    I feel my nutrition is better than 99% of the population, a few slices of salami and a tinned grapefruit over a week are not going to make or break me. As you can see the rest of the diet is "chemical and salt" free

    I definitely look and feel better than when my diet was weetabix, chicken fillet rolls, chocolate and coke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭cson


    jane82 wrote: »
    Theres sugar in the tinned fruit but not the tinned veg? Well I never....... I wonder whats causeing that.

    Its like somebody took all the sugar out of the vegetables.

    Natural sugars fyi :rolleyes:

    If you look at the metrics on a tinned fruit can you'll see that one tin will typically have >50% of your daily sugar requirements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The Green Giant eats frozen veg and he's in good shape (no homo).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    The Green Giant eats frozen veg and he's in good shape (no homo).

    He always seems in good spirits too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    That's because he knows frozen veg are picked and frozen right away


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    Mellor wrote: »
    But boiling/cooking/roasting at home won't have the same effect. :rolleyes:

    Plus Freezing it some after picking stops nutrients dropping further. Something in the supermarket might be a few days old, at best.

    of course doing that at home will have the same effect. Where did i say that i boil veg? or roast it ?

    i steam for 2 mins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    conzy wrote: »
    You are some Buzz Killington mickman :D

    I feel my nutrition is better than 99% of the population, a few slices of salami and a tinned grapefruit over a week are not going to make or break me. As you can see the rest of the diet is "chemical and salt" free

    I definitely look and feel better than when my diet was weetabix, chicken fillet rolls, chocolate and coke



    fair enough. the diet in the picture is much better than what you used to be on in fairness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    jane82 wrote: »
    I smoke about ten , fifteen cigs a day depending on whether Im drinking like a pirate or not.
    Will changing the frozen veg to fresh veg cancel this out?



    :•)

    you sound like a real catch :-)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    mickman wrote: »
    of course doing that at home will have the same effect. Where did i say that i boil veg? or roast it ?

    i steam for 2 mins

    Do you not feel you are worrying too much?
    Are you training for olympic medals or just trying to ward off the illness?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    mickman wrote: »
    of course doing that at home will have the same effect. Where did i say that i boil veg? or roast it ?

    i steam for 2 mins

    A lot of nutrients are lost, and the pesticides will still be there, steaming around.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    ryan101 wrote: »
    A lot of nutrients are lost, and the pesticides will still be there, steaming around.
    Ah dont tell the poor fella that. Steaming is the last luxery he has left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mickman wrote: »
    of course doing that at home will have the same effect. Where did i say that i boil veg? or roast it ?

    i steam for 2 mins
    Which will also have an effect on the content. Similar to microwaving.

    Plus the veg will deteriorate when it's kept "fresh". Time from farm to fork, can be longer than you think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    Mellor wrote: »
    Which will also have an effect on the content. Similar to microwaving.

    Plus the veg will deteriorate when it's kept "fresh". Time from farm to fork, can be longer than you think

    its 24 hours as i get my veg from a local farmer that i know and trust


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    jane82 wrote: »
    Ah dont tell the poor fella that. Steaming is the last luxery he has left.

    its "luxury"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    ryan101 wrote: »
    A lot of nutrients are lost, and the pesticides will still be there, steaming around.

    no pesticides in organic veg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    mickman wrote: »
    no pesticides in organic veg

    If they are telling the truth, lots of e-coli from faeces though, worse again for a 2 min steam. An e-coli sauna


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭mickman


    ryan101 wrote: »
    If they are telling the truth, lots of e-coli from faeces though, worse again for a 2 min steam. An e-coli sauna

    I have called to the farm on many occasions to see the place for myself. Faeces ? Do you think that animals roam through vegetable patches ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    mickman wrote: »
    I have called to the farm on many occasions to see the place for myself. Faeces ? Do you think that animals roam through vegetable patches ?

    No they don't 'roam through it'
    What do you think fertilises organic veg ?
    Excrement, and lots of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mickman wrote: »
    no pesticides in organic veg
    I believe they can just organic pesticides. Like cats piss.


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