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EU residence card and visas?

  • 05-05-2014 10:57am
    #1
    pipkin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭


    If a non eu individual holds a residency card in the UK, can they enter Ireland without a visa? Furthermore can they travel with a family member who isn't listed on the residency card?


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  • #2
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/si/0146.html

    Card holder is exempt, it gets a little more complex for the other person and advice should be sought.


  • #3
    pipkin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭pipkin12


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/si/0146.html

    Card holder is exempt, it gets a little more complex for the other person and advice should be sought.

    The other person is already an EU national ? Just not the family member from whom the right to a residency card stems?


  • #4
    pipkin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭pipkin12


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Residence is one EU country does not give any rights in any other EU country.

    If you have a card there is potential entry into other EU countries without a visa under certain requirments..which I'm trying to find out..


  • #5
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Residence is one EU country does not give any rights in any other EU country.

    See above link. To the best of my knowledge most EU countries allow entry with out visa, while the UK according to UKBA says no the First Tier Tribunal (Immigration Division) says yes. If it ever goes the ECJ it is my belief they will say a residence card give right to enter but that right may in my opinion be restricted to travelling with or going to the EEA citizen.


  • #6
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    pipkin12 wrote: »
    If you have a card there is potential entry into other EU countries without a visa under certain requirments..which I'm trying to find out..

    I have given you the link above.

    3. It is hereby declared that the following classes of non-nationals are specified as classes the members of which are not required to be in possession of a valid Irish visa when landing in the State:

    (c) non-nationals who are family members of a Union citizen and holders of a document called “Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen”, as referred to in Article 10 of the Directive of 2004.


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  • #7
    pipkin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭pipkin12


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    See above link. To the best of my knowledge most EU countries allow entry with out visa, while the UK according to UKBA says no the First Tier Tribunal (Immigration Division) says yes. If it ever goes the ECJ it is my belief they will say a residence card give right to enter but that right may in my opinion be restricted to travelling with or going to the EEA citizen.

    Sorry, didnt see the link..That's great! Thanks a lot!!


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