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Anybody any experience with quad type trough for feeding calves

  • 04-05-2014 10:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭


    Thinking of something like this


    img_7462_384_255_90.png


    Anybody any experience with using one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    Thinking of something like this


    img_7462_384_255_90.png


    Anybody any experience with using one.
    They are big money as far as I know,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Hugh, how many calves are you talking about/feeding on grass?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    Base price wrote: »
    Hugh, how many calves are you talking about/feeding on grass?

    Usually 20 to 30 replacements and 10 or so unsaleable crocks
    But will have to rear all my calves this year and know as the year goes on grass / grazing will inevitably get scarce.

    The picture above looks fairly nice but unless I am mistaken there seems to be no price on the site for it. ( I can't phone them up till Tuesday )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    I never use troughs with weaned calves, throw on the ground and they eat it all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    Thinking of something like this


    img_7462_384_255_90.png


    Anybody any experience with using one.

    Would ya not chance making one


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Would ya not chance making one

    You will have one made in jig time Reggie :D

    That trailer in the picture looks weak enough with the wheels in the middle , especially if you were pulling it with nuts in it . A second axel at one end would take alot of preassure off it .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Mad4simmental


    moy83 wrote: »
    You will have one made in jig time Reggie :D

    That trailer in the picture looks weak enough with the wheels in the middle , especially if you were pulling it with nuts in it . A second axel at one end would take alot of preassure off it .

    Go all out and put a minni dolli on her :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    moy83 wrote: »
    You will have one made in jig time Reggie :D

    That trailer in the picture looks weak enough with the wheels in the middle , especially if you were pulling it with nuts in it . A second axel at one end would take alot of preassure off it .
    Two or three through at 50 euro each. A spine of steel.....say 2 inch box (heavy gauge) 30 euro at most. Two car wheels and hubs from a breakers...50 euro. Then just a bit of a drawbar and hitch. I'd say 250 euro at the most to make one. And you know it's strength.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    I never use troughs with weaned calves, throw on the ground and they eat it all
    I have done something similar in the past with a few finishing cattle that were getting a large amount of meal but am not sure about feeding relatively small amounts of meal to calves would work especially as the next weeks weather is looking rather horrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Go all out and put a minni dolli on her :-)

    Wouldn't be too hard at all and be a right job


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I made nice handy troughs for feeding cattle at grass from a length of 20' corripipe.

    I used 12" diameter for adult cattle, but 9" would be sufficient for calves. There is a seam each side where The pipe is made in 'two half moons.' Use these as your guide to run a jigsaw along and rip them up the middle each side. Eh viola! Two 20' troughs. Make small wood or ply legs to steady like a sheep trough. I put a piece of soft rope on mine to pull around like a sled, but calves might go chewing at this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    I made nice handy troughs for feeding cattle at grass from a length of 20' corripipe.

    I used 12" diameter for adult cattle, but 9" would be sufficient for calves. There is a seam each side where The pipe is made in 'two half moons.' Use these as your guide to run a jigsaw along and rip them up the middle each side. Eh viola! Two 20' troughs. Make small wood or ply legs to steady like a sheep trough. I put a piece of soft rope on mine to pull around like a sled, but calves might go chewing at this.

    The weanlings have started chewing the plastic on mine this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Reggie. wrote: »
    The weanlings have started chewing the plastic on mine this year

    Right. How are the cattle otherwise? Are they shedding coat? noticed ours one year licking girders and chewing wood under barrier. Put it down to a mineral difficency.

    Did you not put a metal frame on your troughs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    Right. How are the cattle otherwise? Are they shedding coat? noticed ours one year licking girders and chewing wood under barrier. Put it down to a mineral difficency.

    Did you not put a metal frame on your troughs?
    Not a bother. They have a lick bucket and all. They seem to chew on any piece that happens to stick up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Would ya not chance making one

    Father made a rather un portable one years back a 20 foot H Iron with Kind of iron U's under one end (instead of wheels) pain to move - if there are no trees or poles around I used to move it with Pallet forks.

    I am thinking of something I could easily move round to feed several batches of calves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    They are big money as far as I know,
    €620 is the price for the 8ft Quadtrox
    €940 is the price for the 24ft Quadtrox (40 calves)

    price includes vat and delivery


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    €620 is the price for the 8ft Quadtrox
    €940 is the price for the 24ft Quadtrox (40 calves)

    price includes vat and delivery

    Could you not get two long drainage pipes and stick an axle under them? Cost half the price ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    Could you not get two long drainage pipes and stick an axle under them? Cost half the price ?
    I could indeed in the past I made every sort of yoke but I suppose I am getting older and feel that time is money.

    Had a look at done deal and saw a few awful troughs on wheels.
    My main worry about this one is that it might not last - rattle itself asunder etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    I could indeed in the past I made every sort of yoke but I suppose I am getting older and feel that time is money.

    Had a look at done deal and saw a few awful troughs on wheels.
    My main worry about this one is that it might not last - rattle itself asunder etc.

    Go on Hugh give us something for the guntering thread. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Go on Hugh give us something for the guntering thread. :D

    Reggie you have me now ..
    What is guntering..... is there a guntering thread here somewhere.

    Ok I see some guntering


    I will have a look at it might post a pic of the old portable trough that is not all that portable...:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    €620 is the price for the 8ft Quadtrox
    €940 is the price for the 24ft Quadtrox (40 calves)

    price includes vat and delivery

    Christ on a bike, it must be gold plated!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Damo810


    Don't see the draw for a yoke like that! Looking at it i'd say theres some tail swing on it, meaning it probably wouldn't be usable on the road, and one stupid yoke of an animal could make **** of it! Why not just get the light calf troughs? You'd carry 3 of them no bother or stick them in the trailer and off with ya!

    Saying that you could always stick on a hitch and two small tires to the legs of a normal trough and pull it on a quad, be heck of a lot cheaper then the aforementioned prices!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/palm-kernel-feeder/160539?view=list&order=name

    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/pk-feeder/233731?view=list&order=name

    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/pk-feeder/233725?view=list&order=name

    If your going guntering there are a few more ideas for you. A lot of people use them out here for feeding palm kernel in the paddocks to milkers so there taken in and out to the paddock a couple of times a day. Only seen them with Dolly's at the front, probably makes life easier getting in gateways no tail swing etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    C0N0R wrote: »
    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/palm-kernel-feeder/160539?view=list&order=name

    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/pk-feeder/233731?view=list&order=name

    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/pk-feeder/233725?view=list&order=name

    If your going guntering there are a few more ideas for you. A lot of people use them out here for feeding palm kernel in the paddocks to milkers so there taken in and out to the paddock a couple of times a day. Only seen them with Dolly's at the front, probably makes life easier getting in gateways no tail swing etc.

    I like the alloys on the front dolly :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    C0N0R wrote: »
    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/palm-kernel-feeder/160539?view=list&order=name

    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/pk-feeder/233731?view=list&order=name

    http://www.taylormechanicalandengineering.co.nz/gallery/Feeders/pk-feeder/233725?view=list&order=name

    If your going guntering there are a few more ideas for you. A lot of people use them out here for feeding palm kernel in the paddocks to milkers so there taken in and out to the paddock a couple of times a day. Only seen them with Dolly's at the front, probably makes life easier getting in gateways no tail swing etc.
    Very nice. What would one of those palm feeders cost ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    Very nice. What would one of those palm feeders cost ?

    Just looked online, not cheap! €2500-3000 for a 6m one but it's tidy as f**k.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/business-farming-industry/farming-forestry/feed-feeding-out/feeding-equipment/auction-724104435.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    C0N0R wrote: »

    Its a fair lump of a yoke in fairness. That amount of water ain't too light either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Its a fair lump of a yoke in fairness. That amount of water ain't too light either

    We'll it holds 1200kg of pk it says


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    C0N0R wrote: »
    We'll it holds 1200kg of pk it says

    More than me tractor :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Reggie. wrote: »
    More than me tractor :D

    I'd be hoping the tractor wouldn't hold much, be a right prick trying to get it out of d cab! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    There is a lot more to this trough than meets the eye.
    Seems quite sturdy and much heavier than expected.
    Comes flat packed in 4 foot lengths
    When assembled there are 6 adjustable legs on the trough ( not shown on original picture)
    So when left parked in the field it is supported every 8 feet (6 legs plus 2wheels)
    The 40 calves ( well 38) that had never seen a trough before had no bother figuring out what it was for. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    There is a lot more to this trough than meets the eye.
    Seems quite sturdy and much heavier than expected.
    Comes flat packed in 4 foot lengths
    When assembled there are 6 adjustable legs on the trough ( not shown on original picture)
    So when left parked in the field it is supported every 8 feet (6 legs plus 2wheels)
    The 40 calves ( well 38) that had never seen a trough before had no bother figuring out what it was for. :)

    How much it cost in the end?? And how long is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Hugh 2


    C0N0R wrote: »
    How much it cost in the end?? And how long is it?
    Hugh 2 wrote: »
    €620 is the price for the 8ft Quadtrox
    €940 is the price for the 24ft Quadtrox (40 calves)

    price includes vat and delivery

    It is 24 feet long and was easier to manoeuvre than it looks - and way heavier than it looks in the picture -also the setup ( with legs ) is different to picture,


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