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Battery for electric fencer

  • 02-05-2014 8:28pm
    #1
    Charliebull
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    Happy motoring con,

    Forgot to charge battery for electric fencer, dead as a door nail,


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  • #2
    _Brian
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    Charliebull wrote: »
    Happy motoring con,

    Forgot to charge battery for electric fencer, dead as a door nail,

    We stopped buying batteries too
    Use a car battery and charge it when the voltage drops. Been using the same second hand battery now for maybe five years.


  • #3
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    _Brian wrote: »
    We stopped buying batteries too
    Use a car battery and charge it when the voltage drops. Been using the same second hand battery now for maybe five years.

    How does that work? Do you have it working off a battery fencer?


  • #4
    _Brian
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How does that work? Do you have it working off a battery fencer?

    Yep.
    Have it in a small plastic barrel. Charge te battery and drop it in the bottom.
    Top part of fencer sits in in top of that connected with crocodile clips.
    Cut a nick in lip of barrel and wires com out with lid clamped on securely.

    Barrel has handles for carrying.

    The fencer has a voltage readout. When it drops to six I charge again as car batteries don't like being ran flat too often, stock don't miss it overnight when being charged.

    Only light work here but three charges over summer does the trick.


  • #5
    td5man
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    Have an elephant battery fencer and it came with leads for a car battery.


  • #6
    Greengrass1
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    td5man wrote: »
    Have an elephant battery fencer and it came with leads for a car battery.

    Never thought of using a car battery. Don't use fencer much any more tbh though


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  • #7
    jimmy G M
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    Do the battery fences not run on a lower voltage rate than the output of a car battery? We ran a small battery fencer on a car battery before and the tick tick tick of the fence was going at twice the normal speed. We were afraid we might burn out something so we stopped?


  • #8
    jt65
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Do the battery fences not run on a lower voltage rate than the output of a car battery? We ran a small battery fencer on a car battery before and the tick tick tick of the fence was going at twice the normal speed. We were afraid we might burn out something so we stopped?



    just stick an adjustable voltage potentiometer in line


  • #9
    RightTurnClyde
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Do the battery fences not run on a lower voltage rate than the output of a car battery? We ran a small battery fencer on a car battery before and the tick tick tick of the fence was going at twice the normal speed. We were afraid we might burn out something so we stopped?

    Most of the newer ones will run on a car battery. They usually come with croc clips for attaching to car battery


  • #10
    ford 5600
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭ford 5600


    I have two Cheta 12v battery fencers , great tool and very good to deal company with if you have a problem with it. Have fixed one for me while you wait, having driven to them. You can send it off from your co-op, merchant, but the carriage can cost as much as the repair and you could be waiting a fortnight for it to come back. I have a used 663 tractor battery on one and a 3 year old small car battery (bought new for the job) on the other. Charge can last a month maybe longer. MOST IMPORTANT that you never leave the battery directly on the ground, always use a mineral bucket lid etc under it. The ground sucks the charge out of them and can ruin them permanently. I always carry a little beeper tester in pocket and when sound gets weaker, charge up the spare battery in readiness. I wouldn't take a present of a battery fencer that wasn't suitable for use with a 12v battery.


  • #11
    _Brian
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Do the battery fences not run on a lower voltage rate than the output of a car battery? We ran a small battery fencer on a car battery before and the tick tick tick of the fence was going at twice the normal speed. We were afraid we might burn out something so we stopped?

    Ours runs on 9-15 volts
    Has an adjustment to speed/slow pulses so it can run hard to train stock and the dial it back to save on battery once they are used to it.. Displays battery voltage and pulse/min.


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  • #12
    weatherbyfoxer
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Ours runs on 9-15 volts
    Has an adjustment to speed/slow pulses so it can run hard to train stock and the dial it back to save on battery once they are used to it.. Displays battery voltage and pulse/min.

    Sounds like a great job. ...I find the white flat tape great for training you stock.More inclined to stick their nose to it instead of walking threw it like plain wire


  • #13
    Genghis Cant
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    weatherbyfoxer wrote: »
    Sounds like a great job. ...I find the white flat tape great for training you stock.More inclined to stick their nose to it instead of walking threw it like plain wire

    It's certainly more visible, but it's some pain in the arse when it degenerates and power only goes so far. It can let ya down with a bang.


  • #14
    weatherbyfoxer
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    Genghis Cant wrote: »
    It's certainly more visible, but it's some pain in the arse when it degenerates and power only goes so far. It can let ya down with a bang.

    True..wouldn't rely on it near a road or boundry


  • #15
    onyerbikepat
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    _Brian wrote: »
    We stopped buying batteries too
    Use a car battery and charge it when the voltage drops. Been using the same second hand battery now for maybe five years.
    I do similar, but use the old tractor battery. It lasts a good while in fairness. It's fair heavy to be lifting across a field though.


  • #16
    whelan2
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    those of ye with battery fencers are they ever robbed? cant keep them in the fields here


  • #17
    Muckit
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    onyerbikepat wrote: »
    I do similar, but use the old tractor battery. It lasts a good while in fairness. It's fair heavy to be lifting across a field though.

    Lads ye really need to get solar panel and small deep cycle battery. Ya won't have to look at it til your bringing it in for the winter.


  • #18
    conseng
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    Muckit wrote: »
    Lads ye really need to get solar panel and small deep cycle battery. Ya won't have to look at it til your bringing it in for the winter.

    What kind of cost are you looking at?


  • #19
    Muckit
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    conseng wrote: »
    What kind of cost are you looking at?

    Half a good weanling :-)


  • #20
    satstheway
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    ford 5600 wrote: »
    I have two Cheta 12v battery fencers , great tool and very good to deal company with if you have a problem with it. Have fixed one for me while you wait, having driven to them. You can send it off from your co-op, merchant, but the carriage can cost as much as the repair and you could be waiting a fortnight for it to come back. I have a used 663 tractor battery on one and a 3 year old small car battery (bought new for the job) on the other. Charge can last a month maybe longer. MOST IMPORTANT that you never leave the battery directly on the ground, always use a mineral bucket lid etc under it. The ground sucks the charge out of them and can ruin them permanently. I always carry a little beeper tester in pocket and when sound gets weaker, charge up the spare battery in readiness. I wouldn't take a present of a battery fencer that wasn't suitable for use with a 12v battery.

    My old tractor battery sitting on ground for 2 years now summer and winter still workong fencer well with voltage always between 11.9- 13v connected to a solar panel.
    how would the ground suck power through plastic case ? Grass up around mine just keep poles clear.


  • #21
    Parishlad
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    those of ye with battery fencers are they ever robbed? cant keep them in the fields here

    Yep, hasn't happened in a while. Last time my father had just bought a new one and it 'went missing'. We knew who the culprits were. Neighbour/friend who was a sarge paid them a visit and just said that if it was left back that would be the end of it. Otherwise they would be back to the 'site' for a full look around. It was back in the field the next morning!


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  • #22
    satstheway
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    conseng wrote: »
    What kind of cost are you looking at?

    Look ebay.co.uk
    I got a few 25w ones from ecoworthy shop also got a few solar charge controllers to stop over and under charging. You can also get 12v to 9v droppers for few euro all on ebay. Think its all from china but I have no probs. I also got small panel lcd voltage meter to keep a eye but the solar controller keeps it all right. All really easy wired up.

    If you get a largish panel get the solar charge controller my first battery which was new lasted just a year. I had no controller or meter on it so it might have been a bad battery but it nevef happened again after the controller was added and just need a reasonable old battery.


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