Kenyan marathoner pushed to finish race

rom

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/2014/04/29/magut-almost-dies-to-finish-race/

No humanity in this video.

jebuz

that is very disturbing to watch, what is your man doc thinking as he walks alongside an athlete clearly in need of medical help, though I fail to see why the fact he is Kenyan a big part of the story, surely if he was Ethiopian, Spanish or whatever, he would have been treated the same neglectful way.

Athletics Kenya really must act on this sort of modern slavery, in my opinion

slightly hysterical, the organisers screwed up and clearly didn't know how to deal with the situation, but it's not slavery

Dietsquirt

Disgusting.

mr.wiggle

Unreal. I'd like to think that I'd have jumped out and stopped/helped him but it all looks surreal and would race stewards stop you from stopping him?
Hopefully he's on the road to recovery.
On a lighter note..it's a pity Father Horan wasn't there !!

PVincent

It is disturbing , but how does anyone on here know that he was being pushed on and encouraged to keep going . Is someone able to understand what was being said to him. The encouragement from the crowd is exactly what you see at every marathon when a runner is struggling , people clapping them when they get going again. He may well have been telling the guy on the bike ( was he just a Marshall ) and the other guy in the yellow coat ( was he even a medic? ) to not touch him . There was clearly good money at stake for this guy as he badly wanted to finish even if he was not fully with it. What are the IAAF rules on these types of scenarios and can they just step in and stop someone because they deem him to be in serious trouble. And anyone know if he is now OK

rom

no finish = no appearance fee

eliwallach

PVincent wrote: »

It is disturbing , but how does anyone on here know that he was being pushed on and encouraged to keep going . Is someone able to understand what was being said to him. The encouragement from the crowd is exactly what you see at every marathon when a runner is struggling , people clapping them when they get going again. He may well have been telling the guy on the bike ( was he just a Marshall ) and the other guy in the yellow coat ( was he even a medic? ) to not touch him . There was clearly good money at stake for this guy as he badly wanted to finish even if he was not fully with it. What are the IAAF rules on these types of scenarios and can they just step in and stop someone because they deem him to be in serious trouble. And anyone know if he is now OK

Check out Gabriela Andersen of Switzerland finishing the 1984 women's Olympic marathon. She was clearly in distress for the finale of the marathon on the track circuits, but was cheered home by an ecstatic crowd and shepherded all the way by officials. Fine line between neglect and bravery/spirit whatever the hell you want to call it.

rom

eliwallach wrote: »

Check out Gabriela Andersen of Switzerland finishing the 1984 women's Olympic marathon. She was clearly in distress for the finale of the marathon on the track circuits, but was cheered home by an ecstatic crowd and shepherded all the way by officials. Fine line between neglect and bravery/spirit whatever the hell you want to call it.

Olympic marathon and she wanted to do it rather being hounded. She didn't fall 3 times, clearly wanting to stop and told get up and finish.

corny

Unfortunate for the lad and i hope he's ok but there's no balance to the article. I'll hold off on calling it disgusting and the like...

Krusty_Clown

Why doesn't anyone just ask the runner for their opinion, before putting together a damaging article like this? I'm sure he can clear up his position on whether he wanted to finish or not and whether he was "shepherded like a bull'.

ultraman1

wud echo the balanced comments above,,.....there was a photo of runners carrying another runner across the finishing line who collapsed in the finishing straight in Boston last week,according to the article they were effin heroes,



was a rumour it was meno

Cabaal

I'm curious if the runner was saying anything and if so what exactly was being said, the article seems abit sensational.

Hard Worker

I've seen marathon runners in similar distress. I don't see a whole lot wrong in this case. He was being monitored and eventually, medics stepped in when he fell and couldn't get up.

average_runner

Hard Worker wrote: »

I've seen marathon runners in similar distress. I don't see a whole lot wrong in this case. He was being monitored and eventually, medics stepped in when he fell and couldn't get up.

Surely if a marathon runner is in this kind of distress, no matter if he/she wants to finish or not, some common sense needs to come in to.

a) The runner should know its time to call it a day for that race, how far is he/she away from something serious happening to them?
b)Stewards and organisers of races should pull people out of the race when they see them collapsing. Its their duty to protect the runner as they are running their event.

Sometimes I think people are just stupid, put their life on the line for a race, when there be more races to come.

Takes a bigger person to know when they had enough and quit.

shamrock55

eliwallach wrote: »

Check out Gabriela Andersen of Switzerland finishing the 1984 women's Olympic marathon. She was clearly in distress for the finale of the marathon on the track circuits, but was cheered home by an ecstatic crowd and shepherded all the way by officials. Fine line between neglect and bravery/spirit whatever the hell you want to call it.

Wow:eek: i never saw that before, what an amazing woman

Krusty_Clown

Is this really any different to the crawl, where the two ladies were fighting for 2nd/3rd place? Should wisdom have prevailed on that occasion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTn1v5TGK_w

TFBubendorfer

Here's a good article about this (and all those videos are referenced as well, plus a couple of others):

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2014/05/kenyan-runners-dramatic-finish-insult-slavery/

average_runner

" Once an athlete collapses, medical care should be immediate. The risk of death is probably small, and most of the reasons causing collapse are easily treatable, but why take that chance?"


The last two lines of this article hits the nail on the head.

robinph

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Here's a good article about this (and all those videos are referenced as well, plus a couple of others):

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2014/05/kenyan-runners-dramatic-finish-insult-slavery/

Not got time to read through the full article just yet, but as someone with extensive knowledge of being on the receiving end of hypoglycemia it really wouldn't have mattered what they were saying to him, and anything he may have been trying to say to them will have been gibberish.

Now I've probably got more experience of that situation than the runner in the clip has and I know when it's happening and what I need to solve it, but it is still virtually impossible for me to be able to explain what is going on even in the simplest of terms to someone around me unless they themselves know me and so have a few clues as to what is happening and what I may be trying to tell them. He'd not have known what was going on and would probably only be vaguely aware that things were not going right for him and wouldn't be able to figure out why the legs were not working despite telling them to keep running.

I'm impressed with how long he managed to keep going for and I'd have dropped to the floor long before, but then I'd know what was going on and know the best thing to do is stop and down a bag of sugar whilst I'm still conscious and able to swallow. Otherwise they'd stick you with a glucagon injection probably and I don't trust other people with needles.