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site bought where to begin?

  • 28-04-2014 11:49pm
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    Just bought site subject to planning. What are the next steps in process? How can i ensure seller does not back out or increase price if i get planning permission?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    Have a solicitor draw up a contract, what ever you do don't hand over any money until the sale is finalised.

    Have you had a pre planning meeting with the council to see if the site is suitable and that you qualify to build there. Have you an architect on board.

    You'll need to get a percolation test done on the site. €550 for the test and approx €200/€250 for a ground worker to excavate the trial holes. After the results of this you can submit a planning application.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Superdaddy


    Normally you pay a 10% deposit. Solicitor should cover any fears you have with the contract. Get as much time as you can for planning with the contract. I would suggest you don't limit yourself to anything less than a year if possible. You need time to get a design you are happy with and get through the planning process. Or build in time extensions based on agreed circumstances such as further information or invalid applications. Your solicitor should be well able to look after your interests here. Planners have a habit of sitting on your application till the last day or two before a decision is due and then sending it back as invalid. So you have to start again with fresh newspaper ad and application.

    Try get a pre planning meeting with the planners and bring your Archetect with you. Ask if they think you need an Natura 2000 appropriate assessment screening report. You can find out if you are near a natura site (SAC or SPA) by checking here http://www.npws.ie/mapsanddata/
    If you need a screening report I can Pm you a competitively priced qualified ecologist details.
    If you have trees on site and you are working around them or want to remove them you may need a tree report or it may be requested as further information. If you need a tree report I can provide you with details of a genuine qualified person too.

    As for site test, shop around, I got mine for €450 including the excavation and supplying water tank. If you are in my part of the world I can Pm you his details.
    Get a fixed price in writing from your solicitor too. You'd be surprised what they charge for taking a phonecall otherwise, again, shop around!
    Best of luck and celebrate your milestones:)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Superdaddy wrote: »
    Planners have a habit of sitting on your application till the last day or two before a decision is due and then sending it back as invalid.
    the validation period is about two weeks in most counties.
    what supperday is referring to is after the subsequent 8 week period, which the planners will wait until the end off before possibly asking for additional information. planning timescales post validation are the same across all counties, what differs is how quickly the applicant can get the requested info submitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭EmmetF


    BryanF wrote: »
    the validation period is about two weeks in most counties.
    what supperday is referring to is after the subsequent 8 week period, which the planners will wait until the end off before possibly asking for additional information. planning timescales post validation are the same across all counties, what differs is how quickly the applicant can get the requested info submitted.

    Not necessarily. A friend of mine had his application invalidated after 8 weeks because the advertisement did not make any reference to the fact that it was a protected structure. How it took 8 weeks to decide it was invalid amazes me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Superdaddy wrote:

    Normally you pay a 10% deposit. Solicitor should cover any fears you have with the contract. Get as much time as you can for planning with the contract. I would suggest you don't limit yourself to anything less than a year if possible. You need time to get a design you are happy with and get through the planning process. Or build in time extensions based on agreed circumstances such as further information or invalid applications. Your solicitor should be well able to look after your interests here.

    I can agree with this except the reference to A YEAR.

    Why would a vendor, offering a site for sale wait a year to see if you can get planning permission.

    A site test, a Pre- Planning meeting, and a submitted Application should take no more than 3-4 Months.Once the Application is Granted or Refused, it's time to pay up, or it goes back on the Market.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Superdaddy


    Carlow co.co. waited 8 weeks before informing me my application was invalid. I had to resubmit and address 3 issues. Then after another 8 weeks they sent it back again as invalid with a new set of reasons. I spoke to the verifier, he said he had passed it but the senior planner had sent it back. I met the senior planner with a county councillor and got an apology and he conceded that it shouldn't have been invalidated. But I still had to resubmit again. And then after a further 8 weeks they requested further information. They wanted an AA screening report after saying in the pre planning it wasn't required. As for Wicklow co.co I wouldn't even bother trying.


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