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Can I still lose weight by drinking fizzy drinks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭maguic24


    i was totally addicted to coke as well. was drinking 6 cans of the real stuff back in the day. i know you said you hate diet, but have you given zero a go? it's very close to the real stuff. i don't like diet either. i never drink real coke anymore.

    Coke Zero is the bomb! Love it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    So your "diet" includes white bread, full fat butter, full fat cheese, full fat milk, large portions of roast potatoes and full fat Coke..and you won't switch to any of the low-fat alternatives because you don't like them?

    Good luck trying to lose that 2 stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    So your "diet" includes white bread, full fat butter, full fat cheese, full fat milk, large portions of roast potatoes and full fat Coke..and you won't switch to any of the low-fat alternatives because you don't like them?

    Good luck trying to lose that 2 stone.

    Low fat is not the answer. Calories are the answer. Low fat diets make you crash and binge.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Luke Rotten Glue


    Full fat is about the main thing he got right


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭mulbot


    yea forget the low fat,just find out at what point your calories are too much.ie when you start putting on weight,that takes a bit of time but knowing your maintenance calories(to keep at your current weight) is very important because then you can have an idea of when you are overeating,you can adjust then by lowering the calories

    oh and i've a friend in the same situation regarding the coke,his solution is;when he gets a craving for the coke,he drinks a pint or more of water,then takes a mouthful of coke,the water he reckons fills him up enough that he doesn't feel the need to glug the coke down...just a suggestion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭doctorwhogirl


    I know it goes against what others may say but I really do believe that even if a diet is within calorie allowance, if it is crappy food it will slow down weight loss. I personally found the last few pounds hard to shift without slightly lowering carbs and upping protein,and getting most carbs from veg. Your diet is poor, calories or not. If you really want to lose weight then stop dancing around the issue and commit to Improving your diet. I'm all for incorporating occassional treats, like coke, into your diet, but it sounds like you're just trying to have your coke and eat it.
    anyone on here that has lost weight has sucked it up and made improvements to their diet. Your comments about not liking any other bread but white just show your reluctance to really try!

    Sorry if I'm being blunt but I don't think you'll get anywhere unless you really educate yourself about eating well and try!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Your comments about not liking any other bread but white just show your reluctance to really try!

    +1. Regarding my last post, I wasn't implying that he should switch to low-fat alternatives, just pointing out that there's a seeming reluctance to change certain habits and really commit to losing weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭rafa05


    White bread, you might as well just be eating sugar. To go off coke you need at least a month before the sugar will leave your system. You diet is poor. It does not matter how hard you train in the gym if you diet is poor then you are wasting your time.

    Stop eating white bread, try cut out the potatoes.

    Try put porridge and eggs into your diet everyday as they are low GI foods that fill you up for longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    White bread and brown bread are virtually identical. The odd slice is fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Squat Rack Curler


    I know it goes against what others may say but I really do believe that even if a diet is within calorie allowance, if it is crappy food it will slow down weight loss. I personally found the last few pounds hard to shift without slightly lowering carbs and upping protein,and getting most carbs from veg. Your diet is poor, calories or not. If you really want to lose weight then stop dancing around the issue and commit to Improving your diet. I'm all for incorporating occassional treats, like coke, into your diet, but it sounds like you're just trying to have your coke and eat it.
    anyone on here that has lost weight has sucked it up and made improvements to their diet. Your comments about not liking any other bread but white just show your reluctance to really try!

    Sorry if I'm being blunt but I don't think you'll get anywhere unless you really educate yourself about eating well and try!
    tell that to Alberto Nunez
    rafa05 wrote: »
    White bread, you might as well just be eating sugar. To go off coke you need at least a month before the sugar will leave your system. You diet is poor. It does not matter how hard you train in the gym if you diet is poor then you are wasting your time.

    Stop eating white bread, try cut out the potatoes.

    Try put porridge and eggs into your diet everyday as they are low GI foods that fill you up for longer.
    lol

    OP enjoy your coke a few days a week, as far as diets go yours is actually pretty decent. You are low on protein intake though, you need more protein when losing weight, I would advise halving your potatoes and having another meat e.g chicken, fish instead or maybe supplementing with whey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    White bread and brown bread are virtually identical. The odd slice is fine.

    That is just wrong. The grain used to make white bread is stripped of all nutritional value.

    I'm no expert but the first thing I noticed on your diet is the white bread in the morning and again in the evening. At least try switching to a healthier bread.

    By extension of that, your breakfast is poor. I'd say you get quite hungry soon after that. The cheese is about the only thing of value going in to you in the morning. If you are serious, you need to move on to porridge. It's got a great slow release of energy and will satisfy you far longer than a slice of white bread with cheese.

    With regards to the gym side of things. My understanding is that muscle burns calories. More muscle equals more efficient burning of calories. Hit the weights and you will see better results. You should try talk to the staff in your gym about putting a plan together for you.

    EDIT: in response to the poster above's comment on using whey. Be careful here. Whey supplements are also used to put on mass. I would get your basics right before trying out supplements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Bacchus wrote: »
    That is just wrong. The grain used to make white bread is stripped of all nutritional value.

    I'm no expert but the first thing I noticed on your diet is the white bread in the morning and again in the evening. At least try switching to a healthier bread.

    By extension of that, your breakfast is poor. I'd say you get quite hungry soon after that. The cheese is about the only thing of value going in to you in the morning. If you are serious, you need to move on to porridge. It's got a great slow release of energy and will satisfy you far longer than a slice of white bread with cheese.

    With regards to the gym side of things. My understanding is that muscle burns calories. More muscle equals more efficient burning of calories. Hit the weights and you will see better results. You should try talk to the staff in your gym about putting a plan together for you.

    EDIT: in response to the poster above's comment on using whey. Be careful here. Whey supplements are also used to put on mass. I would get your basics right before trying out supplements.

    and a total waste of money imo,if your diet is right and your just doin a normal casual workout prog it's not needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭papu


    mulbot wrote: »
    and a total waste of money imo,if your diet is right and your just doin a normal casual workout prog it's not needed

    It's a pretty cost effective way of getting protein into a diet where it's lacking , it's also convenient . A scoop of whey > A can of coke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bacchus wrote: »
    EDIT: in response to the poster above's comment on using whey. Be careful here. Whey supplements are also used to put on mass. I would get your basics right before trying out supplements.

    Not really. Whey is whey. Mass gainers are high protein AND high (complex) carbs. More carbs than protein. And probably twice as much protein in a serving as a serving of whey protein.

    Two different supplements for two different purposes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭mulbot


    papu wrote: »
    It's a pretty cost effective way of getting protein into a diet where it's lacking , it's also convenient . A scoop of whey > A can of coke.

    a scoop of whey<a piece of chicken,beef,eggs..no comparison in the nutritional value-


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mulbot wrote: »
    a scoop of whey<a piece of chicken,beef,eggs..no comparison in the nutritional value-

    No one is going to argue otherwise. But nothing wrong with whey supplement as an occasional convenient protein supplement.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Luke Rotten Glue


    No one is going to argue otherwise. But nothing wrong with whey supplement as an occasional convenient protein supplement.

    Especially if it's banoffee flavoured

    just sayin...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭mulbot


    No one is going to argue otherwise. But nothing wrong with whey supplement as an occasional convenient protein supplement.

    occasional, yea agree there(i just see some people think its a necessity for exercise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Squat Rack Curler


    mulbot wrote: »
    a scoop of whey<a piece of chicken,beef,eggs..no comparison in the nutritional value-

    Elaborate please


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mulbot wrote: »
    occasional, yea agree there(i just see some people think its a necessity for exercise

    Depends on your goals. If you're trying to get ~200g of protein a day on board, it's one thing. But the OP is unlikely to need it regularly, if at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Are supplements regulated here?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Depends on your goals. If you're trying to get ~200g of protein a day on board, it's one thing. But the OP is unlikely to need it regularly, if at all.

    Does nobody just wing it and try get loads of protein on board? Thats what I do. Id say I could be over my needs most days. I dont mind when the muscles grow I will need more. Ill be used to eating that much then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    jane82 wrote: »
    Does nobody just wing it and try get loads of protein on board? Thats what I do. Id say I could be over my needs most days. I dont mind when the muscles grow I will need more. Ill be used to eating that much then.

    Not really. How much is 'loads'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭mulbot


    jane82 wrote: »
    Does nobody just wing it and try get loads of protein on board? Thats what I do. Id say I could be over my needs most days. I dont mind when the muscles grow I will need more. Ill be used to eating that much then.

    well you can take in too much protein,it doesn't just sit around waiting to be used in the muscle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭bodhi085


    ergonomics wrote: »
    Can I suggest two things that might help you?

    First, buy a kitchen scales if you don't have one already.

    The sign up to MyFitnessPal and start weighing, measuring and logging everything. For instance you should be measuring how much milk you're putting in your tea and how much butter you're putting on your toast. Input everything into MFP and see how you get on.

    When I started losing weight I was shocked at how badly I was estimating the size of most portions. I was also shocked how the calories added up when I didn't accurately measure the butter on my toast, sugar in my tea or even the oil I used while cooking.

    Totally agree here. I stared myfitness pal 12th April 2013.
    I was 173lbs at age 39
    I've stuck with it to this day.
    1 year on I'm now 129lbs
    I done lots of cardio at first and the lbs fell away and then I got my own dumbells and do lots of strength which has bulked and toned me up. Like other people have posted the strength is the best way. I run or bike as much as I can in the week and I go to the gym and swim at least once a week.
    Myfitness pal is hard work but it dosnt tell you what to eat it's only really a guide,but it works for me. I cut out granulated sugar,full fat milk and cheese for the first 6 months completely. I only ever use sweetner in my tea. I haven't eaten white bread in a year but I occasionally eat nimble brown bread which is only 48cals per slice.
    I wish you the best of luck with the diet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    mulbot wrote: »
    well you can take in too much protein,it doesn't just sit around waiting to be used in the muscle

    Yeah but eventually itll be just enough when Im. Half stone or so heavier no?
    I do a chicken breast on 3 eggs
    then a chicken breast or a bit more then a chicken breast and a half.
    I put a couple pints of milk on there too.
    Sure has to be enough. If muscles stop growing I eat more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Not really. Whey is whey. Mass gainers are high protein AND high (complex) carbs. More carbs than protein. And probably twice as much protein in a serving as a serving of whey protein.

    Two different supplements for two different purposes.

    Fair enough, I'm just advising caution jumping into supplements when simple changes to diet can achieve the same results. We've seen 1 sample day from the OP. Not a lot to go on. Supplements would be down the list in priorities IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭papu


    jane82 wrote: »
    Yeah but eventually itll be just enough when Im. Half stone or so heavier no?
    I do a chicken breast on 3 eggs
    then a chicken breast or a bit more then a chicken breast and a half.
    I put a couple pints of milk on there too.
    Sure has to be enough. If muscles stop growing I eat more.

    Muscle growth is very slow , you'd be lucky/working your ass off to put on more than 5lbs of muscle a year..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭mulbot


    jane82 wrote: »
    Yeah but eventually itll be just enough when Im. Half stone or so heavier no?
    I do a chicken breast on 3 eggs
    then a chicken breast or a bit more then a chicken breast and a half.
    I put a couple pints of milk on there too.
    Sure has to be enough. If muscles stop growing I eat more.

    i only eat enough for my present weight(muscle weight,not total weight)


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