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Is it very unattractive for a young man for not wanting to move out of parents house?

  • 26-04-2014 6:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    At the weekend I was chatting away to a girl, we got talking about our futures and where we want to be in a few years time, she said that she wanted to move out of her family home and rent out a place soon and she asked me when am I moving out, I said I had no plans to move out of my parents place for at least another 10 years, im currently in my early 20s.

    She was very confused as to why I don't want to move out of my parents home until my 30s.

    She said it was very unattractive that a bloke in his early to mid 20s had no plans to move
    out of their parents and start renting a place

    Isn't "renting" a waste of money, in a sort of way ? As you'll never own the asset that you're renting ?

    Wouldn't it make more financial sense to save up the money that you'll spend on rent and put it towards a future mortgage, at least you'll own the asset after the mortgage is fully paid off. You'll never own the asset of a rented property

    Does anyone agree with me here or am I totally out of order with my opinion ? Does anyone agree with the girl that its very unattractive on my part for me not wanting to move out of my parents house even though I'm trying my best to think of my future (my 30s and 40s) and not just the short term ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    At the weekend I was chatting away to a girl, we got talking about our futures and where we want to be in a few years time, she said that she wanted to move out of her family home and rent out a place soon and she asked me when am I moving out, I said I had no plans to move out of my parents place for at least another 10 years, im currently in my early 20s.

    She was very confused as to why I don't want to move out of my parents home until my 30s.

    She said it was very unattractive that a bloke in his early to mid 20s had no plans to move
    out of their parents and start renting a place

    Isn't "renting" a waste of money, in a sort of way ? As you'll never own the asset that you're renting ?

    Wouldn't it make more financial sense to save up the money that you'll spend on rent and put it towards a future mortgage, at least you'll own the asset after the mortgage is fully paid off. You'll never own the asset of a rented property

    Does anyone agree with me here or am I totally out of order with my opinion ? Does anyone agree with the girl that its very unattractive on my part for me not wanting to move out of my parents house even though I'm trying my best to think of my future (my 30s and 40s) and not just the short term ?

    I agree with her. Having no desire to move out "for 10 years" sounds weird.

    The fact that you see no benefit in living independently is definitely "unusual", to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    I'm in my late 20s. I moved out 2 years ago and rented a place on my own. I soon discovered that renting is dead money and a waste. I moved home a year later and I''m now saving hard to buy my own place. Renting is a mugs game imo, and I'd never go down that road again. I do miss my own space but seeing as I was renting, it was never my own space really and never felt that way to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    I'm in my late 20s. I moved out 2 years a go and rented a place on my own. I soon discovered that renting is dead money and a waste. I moved home a year later and I''m now saving hard to buy my own place. Renting is a mugs game imo, and I'd never go down that road again.

    Everything is dead money, from someone's perspective. Life is not about racing to get a mortgage. Do you have any desire to be independent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    From speaking to my female friends about this, it seems that it would be a turn off that you can't show that you can live independently....certainly I imagine would be an issue in your 30s. I am sure that there are excepetions, but from my somewhat limited statistical sample, I would say that women would infer a certain level of immaturity in a guy with that living situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    3DataModem wrote: »
    The fact that you see no benefit in living independently is definitely "unusual", to say the least.

    But I have a fair amount of independence as it is even though Im still at home, Ive no brothers or sisters

    Well I do see the benefit of living independently but still such a high cost financial wise to just have independence though ?

    Rent ain't cheap


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 snowflaked


    If you were to get into a relationship with a girl, having your own space is very important. Can you imagine cuddling with your gf in your sitting room with your parents beside you?
    You are in the prime of your youth, living independently has so many pluses that outweigh financial gain. You will be paying a mortgage for most of your adult life anyways, why waste your young adult years worrying about a mortgage. More important to focus on personal development and relationships if that is what you desire. But if you prefer the security of saving for a house and that brings you more happiness, by all means continue the way you are. Take care

    Ps. If the girl has her own place renting etc it would not be as big a deal, but preferable it is more attractive if a guy lives independantly. It is not a big deal though IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    I'm in my late 20s. I moved out 2 years ago and rented a place on my own. I soon discovered that renting is dead money and a waste. I moved home a year later and I''m now saving hard to buy my own place. Renting is a mugs game imo, and I'd never go down that road again. I do miss my own space but seeing as I was renting, it was never my own space really and never felt that way to me.

    I agree, In my opinion renting a place to live is a waste of money unless you don't get on well with your family or if theres too many arguments in the family home, then I could see a very good reason to move out of home and spend money on rent


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Tara Billions Dove


    I'd rent for at least a year or two. Give you a bit of freedom, cope with all the usual stuff by yourself. Bring girls back if you want.
    See if your parents don't mind you living with them while paying them rent after that if you still want to.
    I'm not remotely interested in getting myself a mortgage so I can't advise on that bit - I'm on the opposite side of things where I think the obsession with owning a house is, well, incomprehensible to me. I have no interest in being tied down to millstone like that while I'm still young.

    As for "owning the asset", you pay for services all the time. You don't own your electricity with an electric generator or whatever your pay for use of it, you pay to get food conveniently from a shop instead of the underlying asset/provision, and you pay for the use of a house - you get shelter.
    Can't put a price on the freedom of getting out there and being on your own for a while though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    Renting is not dead money, its paying money for the roof over your head, renting when you move out of the home also gives you independence to enjoy your youth.

    with all due respect if a guy was in college and living at home or just started working and living at home, i would make allowences providing he was showing an interest of moving out as soon as it was possible financially,

    if a guy is working long term (say 6 months to a year) and happy to stay living with mommy and daddy, then yes i would find it unattractive, not only that but it would be impractical, i would he always have to come to my house if we wanted alone time? which is unfair on the girlfriend imo,

    i guess as i know a guy who lives with his mom in his late twenties and he can not keep a relationship going long enough to meet a girl he could get a mortgage with. His last girlfriend also lived at home so he blew his savings on hotel rooms and weekends away.

    where his brother who moved out after getting his first full time permanent job has recently bought a house with his now wife,

    but that is just my experience i refer to.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭Olive8585


    I'm in my late 20s. I moved out 2 years ago and rented a place on my own. I soon discovered that renting is dead money and a waste. I moved home a year later and I''m now saving hard to buy my own place. Renting is a mugs game imo, and I'd never go down that road again. I do miss my own space but seeing as I was renting, it was never my own space really and never felt that way to me.

    That's really rude. Not everyone has the option of living off Mammy and Daddy, and plenty of those who do would rather stand on their own two feet as adults instead of having another adult subsidise them.

    It would very unattractive for me, tbh. I'm an independent adult and I want a relationship with another independent adult, not to have to make small talk with Mammy and Daddy every time I go over to the house and not to have to worry about noise every time we had sex...that was fine when I was 17. I don't expect to have to live like that now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    Massively unattractive. Independent living and learning the life skills that go along with it is so important. I moved out at 22 and felt this was late to do so. I know people in their late 20's/early 30's who still live with their parents and I find it quite strange. Rent is not 'dead money', it's paying for a service ie the accommodation. Would your parents not expect you to contribute a sizable amount anyway, once you're earning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Paying rent on an apartment on your own would be silly unless you were earning tasty money so I can see where you're coming from.

    That said, house sharing with 2 / 3 other people would be a lot more affordable. Moving out of home also makes a man of you IMO. You realise very quickly that food doesn't magically appear on the table and clothes don't wash and iron themselves, etc.

    A girl needs to know that you can take care of yourself (and possibly her too long term) and not be hiding behind mummy's apron all your life. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    3DataModem wrote: »
    Everything is dead money, from someone's perspective. Life is not about racing to get a mortgage. Do you have any desire to be independent?

    How is everything dead money ? Could you explain ?

    Im not in a big race to get a mortgage, if im smart enough with money over the next few years theres a small chance I might be able to purchase a property on my own in cash, or I might need a small mortgage to cover a small proportion of the cost of the property (fingers crossed property prices stay low or only increase lightly)

    I've no sudden big desire to have independence, I'm happy with my current lifestyle and excited about my future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    I've no sudden big desire to have independence

    This part would be a turn off for many women (and men)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    To answer your question - I can see why it is unattractive for people in their late 20s to live at home.

    Presumably you're paying your parents rent too? So what's the difference in renting a room from your parents or renting a room in a house share?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    snowflaked wrote: »
    If you were to get into a relationship with a girl, having your own space is very important. Can you imagine cuddling with your gf in your sitting room with your parents beside you?
    You are in the prime of your youth, living independently has so many pluses that outweigh financial gain. You will be paying a mortgage for most of your adult life anyways, why waste your young adult years worrying about a mortgage. More important to focus on personal development and relationships if that is what you desire. But if you prefer the security of saving for a house and that brings you more happiness, by all means continue the way you are. Take care

    Ps. If the girl has her own place renting etc it would not be as big a deal, but preferable it is more attractive if a guy lives independantly. It is not a big deal though IMO

    Yeah I understand your point there, but what about the bedroom ?

    Say if I was dating a girl for a little while or in a relationship with her my parents wouldn't have a problem if I brought the girl back and we watched movies in my room, went on the laptop, just chilling, as long as the girl is ok like

    I am focusing on my personal development and relationships, as well as other things like my education my career etc which Im quite happy with so far in my life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    are you paying rent, food and bills to your parents?

    it would be a massive turn off for me if a grown man is still breastfeeding with little desire to be independent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    I've no sudden big desire to have independence

    There you go. I think you've just answered your with question. I would certainly find that am unattractive trait in a girlfriend, and an absolute deal breaker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Yeah I understand your point there, but what about the bedroom ?

    Say if I was dating a girl for a little while or in a relationship with her my parents wouldn't have a problem if I brought the girl back and we watched movies in my room, went on the laptop, just chilling, as long as the girl is ok like

    I am focusing on my personal development and relationships, as well as other things like my education my career etc which Im quite happy with so far in my life


    But you're not asking if you or your parents should have a problem - you're asking if others will see it negatively.

    If you had a girlfriend would you be comfortable having sex with her while her parents are also in the house, then sharing the tea and toast with them in the morning after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    To answer your question - I can see why it is unattractive for people in their late 20s to live at home.

    Presumably you're paying your parents rent too? So what's the difference in renting a room from your parents or renting a room in a house share?

    Massive difference financially, depending on how youre renting and where abouts in dublin etc, so as you know renting with other people your rent per month could be €300 to say €500 sharing ? But say if youre renting a 2 bedroom house on your own in dublin it could be €800 to €1000 per month ?

    My cousin whos in her late 30s with 2 children rents a 2 bedroom house just outside county dublin for €1150 per month

    We're not too bad financially I work part time and hand over €20 to €30 every 2 weeks

    Plus also at least youre handing money over to your parents, the most important people in your life, rather than to a landlord who in most cases is a complete stranger to tenants


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    So don't rent what you don't need.

    20 to 30 quid every week is inappropriate in my view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    To answer your question - I can see why it is unattractive for people in their late 20s to live at home.

    Presumably you're paying your parents rent too? So what's the difference in renting a room from your parents or renting a room in a house share?

    what if all the people around my age here(rural area...work in rural enough area as well) who are in houseshares are into drugs etc and you didn't want to be involved with them....even if it was cheaper than what you are giving your parents each week:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    So don't rent what you don't need.

    20 to 30 quid every week is inappropriate in my view.

    Sometimes they don't even take it off me, I do other things though so say if for example it was their wedding anniversary I'd book and pay for a nice dinner for them, I wouldn't include that as a rent cost though, Id just do that as a nice gesture :)

    oh and I get paid every 2 weeks, so 10 to 15 a week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    Massive difference financially, depending on how youre renting and where abouts in dublin etc, so as you know renting with other people your rent per month could be €300 to say €500 sharing ? But say if youre renting a 2 bedroom house on your own in dublin it could be €800 to €1000 per month ?

    My cousin whos in her late 30s with 2 children rents a 2 bedroom house just outside county dublin for €1150 per month

    We're not too bad financially I work part time and hand over €20 to €30 every 2 weeks

    But you don't need a 2 bedroom house. If you are working part time and genuinely can't afford it, then there's not much you can do. But I would recommend that when you can afford it to take the opportunity. Not just because girls will find you a more appealing prospect! I've had this discussion with people before who insist it's the same cos they live with their parents but can do what they want. It's not, it's just not. Independent living teaches you valuable life skills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Chara1001


    What? 20 or 30 Euro every 2 weeks? Op you need to pay them more.
    And to answer your question yes I would view someone in their 30's living with their parents because they wanted to very negatively


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    Chara1001 wrote: »
    What? 20 or 30 Euro every 2 weeks? Op you need to pay them more.
    And to answer your question yes I would view someone in their 30's living with their parents because they wanted to very negatively

    But they don't take the money from me sometimes, if I tried to pay them more they wouldnt take the money off me, if they'd let me pay €50 a week Id be happy to do so

    we're very comfortable financially so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    dearg lady wrote: »
    This part would be a turn off for many women (and men)

    Not for me though, Id think the other way, Id admire a female who actively thought about her financial future the way I do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Xaniaj


    Not for me though, Id think the other way, Id admire a female who actively thought about her financial future the way I do

    I actively think about my financial future but I do it while renting and living independently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    OP - you need to get out on your own for a bit and live life - even it is in a house share with friends OR with people you don't know. Most people by the time they settle down or start living with a partner have lived at least a bit on their own, had to juggle jobs and laundry and cleaning, had to know when bills needed payed, how to stretch that pack of pasta and jar of sauce into 3 meals until pay day etc etc. I can see why this would be a turn off for a woman - they could think that you were just wanting to replace mammy with them.

    As for the deeper debate re renting/owning...Renting to be honest is the wave of the future. I know a lot of people I worked with in Ireland who during the boom, racing for the mortgage for a house 2 hours away from work that was "their own", and by their's I mean the banks. Most went into negative equity, and 2 lost "their" house due to inability to pay the mortgage.

    Rent can be seen by some as "dead money", but it is also freedom. Because we have never "owned" a house, we've never been tied to one specific place - we've been able to move to follow career opportunities on a month's notice and been able to save a lot of cash in the meantime via following career opportunities that increased our salary


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Every single person who lives in your area uses drugs? Every single potential flat mate or house mate is a person you wouldn't want to live with?

    Do you buy food? Do your own laundry? Pay your own bills?

    It's important to learn how to live independently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    Not for me though, Id think the other way, Id admire a female who actively thought about her financial future the way I do

    Well of course not everyone thinks the same. But I would think you would find a majority who would prefer a partner living independently.
    On the second point, those two things are not mutually exclusive, many people rent and also think about their financial future. And indeed, they probably have a much more realistic view than someone who hands up 20-30 euro every 2 weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    It would put me right off a man being honest. If someone is living at home I'd be of the impression that they would be pretty useless when it would come to running a home and everything that involves. From the budgeting to the upkeep and everything in between.

    I've been living in my own place since I was 17. I would have no interest in a man coming straight from his mammys house to me as I can't help but feel I'd end up taking the brunt of the running of the household.

    I'd be of the opinion that it is very important to fly the nest as an adult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    Sometimes they don't even take it off me, I do other things though so say if for example it was their wedding anniversary I'd book and pay for a nice dinner for them, I wouldn't include that as a rent cost though, Id just do that as a nice gesture :)

    oh and I get paid every 2 weeks, so 10 to 15 a week

    When I lived at home I paid a third of my wages to my parents and I also got them a gift for their anniversary. You have it very easy OP

    Do you do anything around the house like cooking or cleaning? Do you wash your own clothes? Do you know how to change a plug or a washer on a tap? These are the kind of life skills that you get from living away from home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Every single person who lives in your area uses drugs? Every single potential flat mate or house mate is a person you wouldn't want to live with?

    Do you buy food? Do your own laundry? Pay your own bills?

    It's important to learn how to live independently.


    90+% of people my age in my area use drugs (weed mainly...with fair helping of other stuff from time to time) daily and most don't work

    those that don't mainly just live at home/withn there GFs/BFs

    yes I do be buying me own food as I pass shop on way home and ring ahead to see do they need anything!!
    as I work 6 full days a week....so I usually just come home from work and try to go to gym two or three nights a week!!

    as for laundry...I find it weird to ask anyone else to do that:confused::confused:

    as for bills....I don't have much TBH...just run my car and give e80 a week to the parents for rent and bills and also clear some bigger bills from time-to-time for them....just to be nice:)
    so I just have two meals at home dinner and make sandwichs from fridge (usually what I buy meself)
    have lived away in collage etc....just don't see why id move 20+ miles to town and add at least 15 extra moles onto journey too and from work??
    when realistically all I do in evenings is sleep as I do be wreaked

    that being said if I got a opportunity to rent out the country anyway right I would take it...as another reason I find towns streesfull and find it hard to sleep anynight I stayed in town with streetlights,noise etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    Big Nasty wrote: »
    Paying rent on an apartment on your own would be silly unless you were earning tasty money so I can see where you're coming from.

    That said, house sharing with 2 / 3 other people would be a lot more affordable. Moving out of home also makes a man of you IMO. You realise very quickly that food doesn't magically appear on the table and clothes don't wash and iron themselves, etc.

    A girl needs to know that you can take care of yourself (and possibly her too long term) and not be hiding behind mummy's apron all your life. ;)

    But you could argue it the other way as if youre renting with 2 or 3 other people youre not living independently as such as those 2 or 3 other people will be still doing some of the house chores, you wouldnt be doing everything on your own ? so it'd be like the same way I live with my parents now as we divide the house chores by 3, so ive plenty of experience there, I didnt need to move out of parents house to learn how to do house chores, you know

    You don't have to be renting a place to prove that you can take care of a girl, theres an numerous amount of ways you can show that you can take care of a girl pretty well


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    But you could argue it the other way as if youre renting with 2 or 3 other people youre not living independently as such as those 2 or 3 other people will be still doing some of the house chores, you wouldnt be doing everything on your own ? so it'd be like the same way I live with my parents now as we divide the house chores by 3, so ive plenty of experience there, I didnt need to move out of parents house to learn how to do house chores, you know

    You don't have to be renting a place to prove that you can take care of a girl, theres an numerous amount of ways you can show that you can take care of a girl pretty well


    do your parents ever avoid their chores? how do you handle and resolve this situation?

    living with your parents is not the same as living with your peers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    How is everything dead money ? Could you explain ?

    Im not in a big race to get a mortgage, if im smart enough with money over the next few years theres a small chance I might be able to purchase a property on my own in cash, or I might need a small mortgage to cover a small proportion of the cost of the property (fingers crossed property prices stay low or only increase lightly)

    I've no sudden big desire to have independence, I'm happy with my current lifestyle and excited about my future

    Money is a means to an end... to some owning a car or a playstation or an airsoft gun is a waste... or even having kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I'd find it a massive turn off (I'm 25 btw).

    I live at home, but not because I want to. I lived alone for ages, but my mam needs someone to help care for her as she's disabled. So until her health improves a bit more, which will take about a year or so, I'm at home.

    Handing over 30 euro every fortnight is a joke. How are you supposed to learn to be independent while all of your income is disposable? You're not learning to budget, pay bills, or look after yourself 100%.

    I work part time, and I hand over about 100 per week, on top of looking after my mam. Why not explain to your parents that you want to contribute and pay bills to learn how to do it for when you live alone?

    As for bringing women home - I went out with two guys who lived at home (one lived alone for the first year of our relationship), and never oncehad sex with them in their houses. I stayed over, but felt extremely uncomfortable with regards to sex. How can you have an adult relationship while living at home? Do you think a woman is going to wait til you're in your thirties to settle down or have kids?

    So yeah. Massive turn off. Living at home isn't a huge turnoff to me. Having no desire to move out would be a dealbreaker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Say if I was dating a girl for a little while or in a relationship with her my parents wouldn't have a problem if I brought the girl back and we watched movies in my room, went on the laptop, just chilling, as long as the girl is ok like

    I would find this prospect completely and utterly unappealing. I am beyond hanging out in someones bedroom with their folks downstairs. I am not interested in sitting on someones single bed hurting my neck watching netflix on a laptop. I can't speak for every woman but I don't think I'd be alone in really not wanting to need my boyfriends parents to find me 'ok' before I could spend the night in his house. I'd assume that someone who had needed their parents to look after them into their 30s would be looking for me to look after them when they moved out. So yes, for me, someone who was living at home even though they didn't have to and had no interest at all in being independent would not be attractive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    But you could argue it the other way as if youre renting with 2 or 3 other people youre not living independently as such as those 2 or 3 other people will be still doing some of the house chores, you wouldnt be doing everything on your own ? so it'd be like the same way I live with my parents now as we divide the house chores by 3, so ive plenty of experience there, I didnt need to move out of parents house to learn how to do house chores, you know

    You don't have to be renting a place to prove that you can take care of a girl, theres an numerous amount of ways you can show that you can take care of a girl pretty well

    The difference is you pay all your own bills, you do all your own chores, you don't have any 'safety net' so you have to make sure you budget well, you will learn what it's like to live with different personalities, which can be a very steep learning curve!
    It's a lot about attitude for me, I personally find it offputting if a potential partner has no desire to live independently, and is happy to essentially sponge off his parents through his 20's. I also did have a partner a few years ago who moved back to his parents supposedly temporarily, and it put a huge strain on our relationship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    3DataModem wrote: »
    Do you have any desire to be independent?

    Sure do, and having an investment behind me to back me up when I need it. Can't say I have ever felt independent paying someone else's mortgage though. That's just me though. It's just the issue with security in life later on when I have retired, I don't want to be still paying rent. I want to be able to sit back and enjoy my final years if I'm lucky enough to get that far in life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    This bizarre attitude people have about rent being 'dead money'! Rent is paying for a service, same as any other
    Also, once you're earning you should be contributing to the household, so it shouldn't make much difference moneywise whether you live with your parents or on your own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    But you could argue it the other way as if youre renting with 2 or 3 other people youre not living independently as such as those 2 or 3 other people will be still doing some of the house chores, you wouldnt be doing everything on your own ? so it'd be like the same way I live with my parents now as we divide the house chores by 3, so ive plenty of experience there, I didnt need to move out of parents house to learn how to do house chores, you know

    You don't have to be renting a place to prove that you can take care of a girl, theres an numerous amount of ways you can show that you can take care of a girl pretty well

    With all due respect you haven't a clue what fending for yourself entails and until you do said girl will have zero interest in you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    It's just the issue with security in life later on when I have retired, I don't want to be still paying rent. I want to be able to sit back and enjoy my final years if I'm lucky enough to get that far in life.

    It's about balance, of course it's important to plan for the future, but not at the expense of enjoying your youth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    dearg lady wrote: »
    This bizarre attitude people have about rent being 'dead money'! Rent is paying for a service, same as any other
    Also, once you're earning you should be contributing to the household, so it shouldn't make much difference moneywise whether you live with your parents or on your own.

    Well in Dublin renting costs more than paying a mortgage. I hand up €200 per week to my parents and save €250 for moving back out. I was paying €950pm in rent. And seeing as my parent house is far better built than the apartments I was renting, the bills living in a house are much lower. I had to leave the heating on all night during the winter when I was renting. The place just would not hold heat in at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    But you could argue it the other way as if youre renting with 2 or 3 other people youre not living independently as such as those 2 or 3 other people will be still doing some of the house chores, you wouldnt be doing everything on your own ? so it'd be like the same way I live with my parents now as we divide the house chores by 3, so ive plenty of experience there, I didnt need to move out of parents house to learn how to do house chores, you know

    You don't have to be renting a place to prove that you can take care of a girl, theres an numerous amount of ways you can show that you can take care of a girl pretty well

    That whole post shows that you have no idea about what living independently actually entails


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Friendlyperson


    That whole post shows that you have no idea about what living independently actually entails

    Can you explain in more detail of what you mean ? How exactly does that post show that Ive no idea of what living independently is like ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    Well in Dublin renting costs more than paying a mortgage. I hand up €200 per week to my parents and save €250 for moving back out. I was paying €950pm in rent. And seeing as my parent house is far better built than the apartments I was renting, the bills living in a house are much lower. I had to leave the heating on all night during the winter when I was renting. The place just would not hold heat in at all.

    I'm not sure I necessarily believe that renting costs more than paying a mortgage, it would depend on the place, location etc. Interest rates have gone so high lately. I do agree rent has gone up a lot, and it is getting harder to find cheap place.
    The difference is a lot of people are saying rent is dead money, so they'd rather live at home, I just find the attitude of sponging off parents just awful. You on the other hand are paying a substantial amount to your parents, it's quite different.
    950 is very high, I suppose that was for a place to yourself? I houseshare as it's more affordable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Good troll or forking eejit. I'm not sure but either way I'm out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Do what makes me you happy OP. I know people who had succesful relationship whilst living at home and others that failed. I know of a good few people in the country side who did this because they were saving to build there own house close to their parents/on a family farm etc.
    You do need to experience living away from home at some stage tough to be hinest.


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