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So the dark/deep web now has a search engine

  • 23-04-2014 12:00pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 259 ✭✭


    I cant see them using Googe's colour scheme and look lasting for too long!



    http://www.techienews.co.uk/9710196/grams-search-engine-launched-dark-web/


    ‘Grams’ the first search engine dedicated to online underground Black Markets has been launched in Beta last week.

    “I am officially announcing the launch of the beta version of Grams Darknet Market Search Engine,” the creator, who goes by the name Gramsadmin, announced on the social networking site Reddit.

    You can access the search engine right now through this URL, but it would ideally and mostly be accessed through the Tor network through grams7enufi7jmdl.onion.

    The search engine, which looks similar to Google, allows users to search for a whole range of illegal items on the ‘deep web’ including drugs, guns, stolen credit numbers, fake IDs and other forms of contraband.

    Grams currently searches eight different black markets, including Agora, BlackBank, C9, Evolution, Mr. Nice Guy, Pandora, The Pirate Market, and SilkRoad2.

    Grams has something in common with Google, but it’s not affiliated with the search engine giant. The new search engine just looks similar to Google with the brightly colored logo and the ‘I Feel Lucky’ search button.

    “I noticed on the forums and reddit people were constantly asking ‘where to get product X?’ and ‘which market had product X?’ or ‘who had the best product X and was reliable and not a scam?’ ” Grams’ creator told Wired via a chat session.

    “I wanted to make it easy for people to find things they wanted on the darknet and figure out who was a trustworthy vendor.”

    Gramsadmin said the search engine will also allow users to change the currency of the prices, and update bitcoin prices every five minutes. Users will be able to disable markets they do not want to see results for.

    Gramsadmin said he also has plans to include customer reviews, vendor profile pages and a variant on Google AdWords"


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The concept is a bit ridiculous - it can only index deep web sites which are public or allow it to index them. The vast majority of them are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    This is hardly the first search engine for the deep web. There's a fair few out there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 259 ✭✭Dep!


    But isnt it the first that can be used without a TOR buffer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The concept is a bit ridiculous - it can only index deep web sites which are public or allow it to index them. The vast majority of them are not.
    "Allowing" indexing is something of a gentlemen's agreement. The site says, "Please don't index me" and the search engine says, "OK".

    If you write a "fnck you" search engine, then you can can crawl whatever the hell you like, including reddit, 4chan and a whole pile of other sources which are public but don't appear in the indexes of most search engines.

    There are a multitude of tricks to block/redirect crawlers from accessing this content and equally a pile of tricks get around these blocks. In many ways the anonymous networks like TOR which are so favoured by black web users can be used as a tool by these indexers making it basically impossible for deep web sites to distinguish web crawlers from normal traffic.

    FBI, Europol, etc, don't use Google to catch child porn peddlers.

    Though maybe they do, I wouldn't be surprised if Google indexes everything and provides access to "private" indexes to law enforcement agencies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    He also filters out cheese pizza and claimed that he was disgusted that people were attempting to use his service to find it. What did he expect? Guns, drugs, and huggies is all the dark web is for


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    He also filters out cheese pizza and claimed that he was disgusted that people were attempting to use his service to find it. What did he expect? Guns, drugs, and huggies is all the dark web is for

    I would have though he expected people to use it for:
    Science
    Education
    Entertaiment
    Legal Activities
    Fun
    Hugs. That's what we all do on it, right?

    Really though he probably doesn't want CP to even creep into the equation for his own sake I'd guess. He's probably painfully aware of the legal minefield he's in so pre-empting the biggest of the witch hunts is a sensible way to go!


    I'm writing this on Lower Abbey Street in Dublin, who needs a deep web? This is the IRL Deep Web, and it's horrifying!

    Edit: Only horrifying if you don't like the sight of men injecting into their penises, or women hitching up their skirt to stick a needle in their thigh while pushing a pram! If you like that then the Deep Web is for you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Dep! wrote: »
    Grams currently searches eight different black markets, including Agora, BlackBank, C9, Evolution, Mr. Nice Guy, Pandora, The Pirate Market, and SilkRoad2.

    Whoever names these things definitely have a hard on for early 90s rave festivals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Given the amount of malware that infects certain kinds of sites that are active on the regular interweb, I suspect the life expectancy of my PC should it end up on any of these underground sites to be measured in clock cycles rather than minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Darkweb

    Not all its cracked up to be.Not worth the effort either.

    Although if you want to see malware before anyone else it's the place to go.

    Think of it as the web's stupidity filter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    seamus wrote: »
    "Allowing" indexing is something of a gentlemen's agreement. The site says, "Please don't index me" and the search engine says, "OK".

    If you write a "fnck you" search engine, then you can can crawl whatever the hell you like, including reddit, 4chan and a whole pile of other sources which are public but don't appear in the indexes of most search engines.

    There are a multitude of tricks to block/redirect crawlers from accessing this content and equally a pile of tricks get around these blocks. In many ways the anonymous networks like TOR which are so favoured by black web users can be used as a tool by these indexers making it basically impossible for deep web sites to distinguish web crawlers from normal traffic.

    FBI, Europol, etc, don't use Google to catch child porn peddlers.

    Though maybe they do, I wouldn't be surprised if Google indexes everything and provides access to "private" indexes to law enforcement agencies.

    When I said "allow" I was thinking more of members only sites and such - some of those make agreements with search engines to let them index content that's behind the fence so to speak, and since a vast proportion of the deep web (well certainly Tor anyway) exists behind login pages, this would be necessary for such a search engine to be useful.

    You're absolutely right though. I'm sure plenty of advertising bots tell robots.txt go go f*ck itself ;)


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