Rimfire or air gun

minktrapper

Which is more accurate high powered air rifle or rimfire at lets say 100m.Was just looking at the new Kalibre Cricket air rifle.

IRLConor

minktrapper wrote: »

Which is more accurate high powered air rifle or rimfire at lets say 100m.Was just looking at the new Kalibre Cricket air rifle.

A good rimfire will be way more accurate at 100m.

TriggerPL

And when u have to pay the same licence , why would you go for an air rifle unless u had a certain purpose for it

One shot on kill

Rim fire. It also has many more advantages.

minktrapper

Just curious.I see a lad on utube shooting a tin can at 170m with an air gun.I think that is amazing.

garv123

minktrapper wrote: »

Just curious.I see a lad on utube shooting a tin can at 170m with an air gun.I think that is amazing.

Amazing but an average shot could do that with a .17hmr so that kind of answers your question.

1shot16

Gas Air rifles are much more expensive
They need to be filled with gas
Possibility of leak

Just go rimfire

rugermk3

I had air rifles as a kid good fun , but id go rim fire all the way much better

extremetaz

Rimfire will be far more accurate than anything but a specialist airgun at 100m.

That Cricket is a nice looking rifle alright, but it would take a lot more power than the 30ft.lbs it has to compete with a 22LR (which will be cheaper to buy, lighter to walk with, and easier to get ammo for).

As to shooting cans at 170m with air - yeah you can do it given a static target, no wind, and enough shots to get zeroed. The round will be travelling like a mortar at that distance though (unless you're using a "ball" projectile from a *properly* high powered unit - Eun Jin Sumatra or similar) so it'd be pure luck to hit anything first time out that far.

That cricket will give you an effective practical range of ~45m on a 1.5" field target. On a dead calm day, if you REALLY know your ballistics, you *might* push that out to 60m but that'd be the absolute limit before the shot would become more about luck and wishful thinking than skill.

A good 22LR will take you out to ~130m on the same target if you do your part.

adrian5765

just started shooting rimfire from air rifle after moving from wales, rimfire much more fun and lost more versatile and customized to what ever you want. from AR to gallery ambidex stock

hathcock

My airarms s410 does one hole groups at up to 60 yards,power is adjustable, so on lower settings I use it in sheds on feral pigeons,rats etc.On full power head shots on rabbits up to 60 yards is routine.The rimfire has a definite range advantage but the airgun is overall more versatile.So ya pays yer money and takes yer choice.

minktrapper

What kind of money is an Air Arms S410

extremetaz

hathcock wrote: »

The rimfire has a definite range advantage but the airgun is overall more versatile.

60 yards is a properly technical shot with an air rifle though - don't get me wrong, that's what I love most about air rifles - but it's not everybody's cuppa.

I have both - and use both - and love both. There's no question that they both have their place - but if the op is solely looking for 100m performance, then the rimfire is still the better option.

@minktrapper - you could likely pick up the AA for ~€600-700 for the rifle itself, then another €150 or so for either a dive tank or a Hill pump to charge it, and a scope after that.

Worth every penny of the above too - great rifle.

minktrapper

Was always fascinated by air guns.And so cheap to run as in pellet price.They seem to be super accurate at up to 50-60m and no barrel to clean. How many shots would one get from a dive tank approx.

adrian5765

air rifles rare so expensive these days and u still have to license and store as a normal rifle

hathcock

shot count is dependent on the amount of air you put in the reservoir.with a full fill my s410 does around 40 full power shots,more than enough for any shooting/hunting situation.if shooting in sheds the lower power setting gives more than 120 shots.

extremetaz

minktrapper wrote: »

Was always fascinated by air guns.And so cheap to run as in pellet price.They seem to be super accurate at up to 50-60m and no barrel to clean. How many shots would one get from a dive tank approx.

Good ones with good ammo can hit 50-60 alright but as Adrian says below..

adrian5765 wrote: »

air rifles rare so expensive these days and u still have to license and store as a normal rifle

the ones worth having are a lot more expensive than the average 22LR and the licence requirements are identical.

hathcock wrote: »

shot count is dependent on the amount of air you put in the reservoir.with a full fill my s410 does around 40 full power shots,more than enough for any shooting/hunting situation.if shooting in sheds the lower power setting gives more than 120 shots.

as to the dive tank - just like the tank on the rifle the shot count is a function of the power your delivering to the pellet.

The best value per fill comes from a 300bar 7L cylinder. A fill costs €5 at lambay diving in my case and I'll have it filled about twice a year. Each fill will send a little under 1000 rounds downrange (two tins in .177) at ~25J muzzle energy.

and in .22 it would actually even be a little more efficient than that.

tac foley

minktrapper wrote: »

Just curious.I see a lad on utube shooting a tin can at 170m with an air gun.I think that is amazing.

The difference is that 'the lad on utube' is not trying to humanely kill that tin can.

THAT is the reason why we shoot real live cartridge-firing rimfire firearms at game at 100 yards, and not a plinky pellet.

I think you find that most sportsmen on the forum would limit their shooting of a .22cal rimfire on live game to around 75m or so, rather than risk a miss, or even worse, a wounding hit. The .17HMR is in a different category altogether, but is still subject to the effects of wind at its extended ranges.

tac

minktrapper

Thanks to everyone and as always excellent answers to my questions.

clivej

As a young pup, many years ago I had a .22 BSA Meteor air rifle. great fun to use and shoot, and cheap to run. Plinking with it in the back garden when it took my fancy. Then off to the woods for some squirrel shooting. But then, back then, I didn't know of rimfire rifles or if I could even have got one, no license needed for the air rifle just go out and buy it.


Now again after those many years I have taken up rifle shooting and hunting. My first rifle here was a CZ Style .22lr have loved it from the off. Great bit of kit and I could shoot clay's @300y and head shoot rabbits @130y. This can not be done with an Air rifle. I customised up that CZ Style before selling it on and I now shoot a customised Kidd/Ruger 10/22 in competitions, along with 3 other rifles, nothing long range and still cheap (ish) to shoot.

At €10/100 rounds of .22lr ammo it's not going to break the bank. And you get a nice little bang for your buck. The Air rifle will only have you wanting to trade up sooner rather than later and the second hand market for Air rifle here isn't that good.


just my 2 cents worth :) :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Mississippi.

minktrapper wrote: »

How many shots would one get from a dive tank approx.

Hello, I've a power adjustable .22 air arms S410 and a 12 litre 300 bar tank and I have lost count now but I would estimate I got about 1000 shots from my last fill. That would of been a mixture of 8 and 28 ft/lb shots. (min & max power.)

FISMA

+1 for the 22lr.

FWIW, I have a few Diana RWS air rifles: side cock and break action. Air rifles are great: they can take bunnies, very cheap to shoot, no ear protection required.

However, they are a bit on the heavy side.

If I had to choose only one, the RWS or the 22lr, I would keep the 22lr.

My 10/22 is just so versatile. Like CliveJ said, the ammo is not expensive, you can feed it subsonics, and it will get farther ranges.

Bushwack

Look they all have there place in different shooting situations and not all land is rimfire friendly.

To answer your question there are .25,.30,35 such as the fx boss and daystate wolverine and a few others that will group as good as any rimfire at 100 yards.

You may get it hard to licence the cricket here with that style of gun,i would love one meself.