David Moyes' Contract

ThirdMan

If David Moyes gets sacked by Manchester United is he entitled to a large pay out? Can performance targets be considered terms of a contract? For instance, if he doesn't qualify for the Champions League will he have failed to perform his side of the contract, and can Manchester United then simply 'walk away'?

No Pants

Depends what is written in the contract.

Ken.

No. They have to pay him the remainder of his contract if he dug his heals in. They can try negotiate as has happened before. He has a 6 year contract at lets say 10m per year. They sack him after a year he's owed 50m. They could try negotiate for a lower payment.
The managers of football clubs have a union and are a tight knit bunch. Try stiff one as Leeds did with David O Leary a few years ago and you'll find it hard get a new manager in. Any manager taking the job could find it hard to do business with fellow managers for sales and the like.

Football managers are not like the manager of your local shop.

mikemac1

He will be paid the money. He didn't resign and the money is due.

They don't have to pay him all at once and can pay him with the current schedule so years into the future.

Only thing that might get Utd off the hook for at least some of it is if he gets another job and there was a clause that will offset the salary from the new club.

For now he can relax and take a TV pundit job and keep the full salary

Rightwing

A club is up to its eyes in debt, now panicking, Moyes should milk them for all he can and hopefully they'll end up in administration anytime soon.

rwg

No Pants wrote: »

Depends what is written in the contract.

repost as it seems to have been completely missed

Islander13

He would be paid monthly by united until he took a new job or they can negotiate a settlement. Latter more likely. 50% of what he's entitled to probably or thereabouts

mikemac1

rwg wrote: »

repost as it seems to have been completely missed

When it comes to football everyone can be a barstool expert :cool:

Rightwing

mikemac1 wrote: »

When it comes to football everyone can be a barstool expert :cool:

Exactly, and probably more so than the idiots who gave someone a 6 year contract in the first place.

Chuckle chuckle.

Santa Cruz

Rightwing wrote: »

Exactly, and probably more so than the idiots who gave someone a 6 year contract in the first place.

Chuckle chuckle.

Didn't Ashley in Newcastle do the same with Pardew?

Rightwing

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Didn't Ashley in Newcastle do the same with Pardew?

No. Wait for it, they gave him an 8 year contract. How dense can you get.

Victor

ThirdMan wrote: »

If David Moyes gets sacked by Manchester United is he entitled to a large pay out? Can performance targets be considered terms of a contract? For instance, if he doesn't qualify for the Champions League will he have failed to perform his side of the contract, and

As we have seen, it appears that the manager is every bit as important, if not more important, than anyone else in soccer. The performance of the business, in whatever measure is critically dependent on the manager's performance. That said, it isn't solely dependent on the manager's performance. Indeed, in sport (and similar endeavours lotteries, exams, etc.), even the team / club isn't the master of its own fate, although it will contribute a lot to it.

Notably, an employment contract shouldn't 'penalise' a employee. However, it can provide performance bonuses.

can Manchester United then simply 'walk away'?

Likely yes, the issue will how much they have to pay though. Note that their lawyers will be very well paid.

The likely pay structure of any such contract is likely to be:
* a monthly salary;
* performance based pay dependent on each league, championship, etc.;
* performance based pay dependent on the financial performance of the club;
* personal terms - house, car, staff (professional and personal), etc., local to the stadium;
* a sign-up fee;
* payment of agent's fee;
* health insurance, life insurance, life assurance (as much to benefit the employer as the employee / their family);
* a golden hand-cuff clause;
* a golden hand-shake clause;

The last two bits are important

A golden hand-cuff clause keeps the employee with the employer for the duration of the contract and prevents them running off to a competitor mid-way through. However, such a clause may be harsh, so there might be a requirement that if the employer leaves mid-way, they must take 'gardening leave' for X amount of time before joining a competitor.

A golden hand-shake clause allows the employer to get rid of the employee by paying X amount, which may be dependent on how much time the contract has left to run.

Yellowblackbird

No Pants wrote: »

Depends what is written in the contract.

The Glazers aren't given to carelessness or undue generosity.

Rightwing

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

The Glazers aren't given to carelessness or undue generosity.

Seems like they sacked him as soon as they could, if they failed to get into top 4, he gets a 1 year pay off.

Let's hope they have to repeat this process again

seamus

Two parties to any contract can come to a mutual agreement to end that contract, regardless of what the actual contract says. The contract usually states under what circumstances either party can terminate, but they are free to come to any other agreement to end the contract during the contract term.

In this case, Moyes knows his results have been sub-par, but the primary concern for both him and the club is one of PR. They could struggle on at this for another year or two in the hope that things improve, but when it comes to managing a team, bad form begets bad form. A manager who doesn't have the confidence of his club will lose the respect of his players, and then you can never perform on the field.
So if they stick at it, Man U will eventually fire him using some poor performance exit clause, and he'll never get another premier league job.

Or they can agree to end it now for £10m and everyone walks away with some dignity still intact.