raunch/kuhn or lely spinner

harry molloy

Hello, I have been looking at a lely centreliner 24 and a Kuhn mds 921. I have been using wagtails forever and need some advice. Which is better? And also any spreading tips for spinners? Thanks

harry molloy

harry molloy wrote: »

Hello, I have been looking at a lely centreliner 24 and a Kuhn mds 921. I have been using wagtails forever and need some advice. Which is better? And also any spreading tips for spinners? Thanks

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Nekarsulm

never had a centreliner , had a single sinner Lely a long time ago, hated it. more fertilizer on the tractor than the field. Bought a Kuhn twin disk spreader ten years ago, holds 1600kg approx, and its been a great spreader .Spreads even and allethe disks and vanes and fittings are stainless. Very happy with it, would get one again.

as for spreading tips, i always overlap, try and have your outer prills of fertilizer hitting your last wheel tracks. you could drive twice as wide and meet the bands of fertilizer, but you Will have to have the fertilizer. flowing at twice the Tate, and mistakes Will be very obvious. write down the setting and the fertilizer type when you get set up, cause you Will have forgotten by next year.

Zr105

Nekarsulm wrote: »

never had a centreliner , had a single sinner Lely a long time ago, hated it. more fertilizer on the tractor than the field. Bought a Kuhn twin disk spreader ten years ago, holds 1600kg approx, and its been a great spreader .Spreads even and allethe disks and vanes and fittings are stainless. Very happy with it, would get one again.

as for spreading tips, i always overlap, try and have your outer prills of fertilizer hitting your last wheel tracks. you could drive twice as wide and meet the bands of fertilizer, but you Will have to have the fertilizer. flowing at twice the Tate, and mistakes Will be very obvious. write down the setting and the fertilizer type when you get set up, cause you Will have forgotten by next year.

No no no! Definitely not! A spinner is designed to overlap, basically more fertilizer falls closer to the tractor and gets less and less towards the outer edge of the spread, you compensate for this by overlapping, so the lighter amount at the edges of the spread meets up with the heavy bit close to the wheel tracks


http://www.amazone.net/_contentonly/img/ZA-M_Omnia-Set-Streuscheiben.jpg

The squigelly lines is the amount of fertilizer droping as it gets away from the tractor

eire23

No experience of kuhn or lely but have a amazone here. What zr105 is saying is right, it works on a double overlap principal. Main advantage of the spinner is the wider spread pattern i suppose.
Find the amazone good but if your only spreading a small amount like a bag to the acre it will never empty evenly and the handles for adjusting the settings are in a bad spot as they are always covered in fertiliser dust.
Did ya price a bogballe/krm, their meant to be a very good spreader.

Nekarsulm

Zr105 wrote: »

No no no! Definitely not! A spinner is designed to overlap, basically more fertilizer falls closer to the tractor and gets less and less towards the outer edge of the spread, you compensate for this by overlapping, so the lighter amount at the edges of the spread meets up with the heavy bit close to the wheel tracks


http://www.amazone.net/_contentonly/img/ZA-M_Omnia-Set-Streuscheiben.jpg

The squigelly lines is the amount of fertilizer droping as it gets away from the tractor

That's ok, so i am doing it right all along. You Will find the spinner allows you to drive quite a bit wider than the wagtail in any case.

harry molloy

Ya, i have an old vicon wagtail- a little more than the width if the tractor between tramlines.

harry molloy

Thanks for the info, it sounds Like I should get the Kuhn?

Nekarsulm

Well I like it anyway. And on mine you can close off either spinner supply individually, so you can drive tight to the ditch and spread out to one side only.

Zr105

harry molloy wrote: »

Thanks for the info, it sounds Like I should get the Kuhn?

Kuhn and bogballe have both got great reps, amazone fairly good to, have one here and as said the handles at the back seems a great idea but is some pain, not only you get filthy adjusting but near impossible to wash.
(They claim its out of the way of the dirt but even after a ton of the cleanest fert you'll get it has a residue on it)

freedominacup

Zr105 wrote: »

No no no! Definitely not! A spinner is designed to overlap, basically more fertilizer falls closer to the tractor and gets less and less towards the outer edge of the spread, you compensate for this by overlapping, so the lighter amount at the edges of the spread meets up with the heavy bit close to the wheel tracks


http://www.amazone.net/_contentonly/img/ZA-M_Omnia-Set-Streuscheiben.jpg

The squigelly lines is the amount of fertilizer droping as it gets away from the tractor

The spread patterns are meant to overlap to a degree but not to the point that you are throwing fert from one wheel track to the other. If I was to do that I'd be still putting out what I got out today around lunchtime on Monday. 12m spread here on an old bredal that takes 2t. No shutting down one side or any of that crack but she never leaves streaks in grain fields and that'll find your problems and show the neighbours real fast if you're making a cnut of it.

Muckit

What do lads think of the teagle twin disc? They look a great spreader for the money.

Zr105

freedominacup wrote: »

The spread patterns are meant to overlap to a degree but not to the point that you are throwing fert from one wheel track to the other. If I was to do that I'd be still putting out what I got out today around lunchtime on Monday. 12m spread here on an old bredal that takes 2t. No shutting down one side or any of that crack but she never leaves streaks in grain fields and that'll find your problems and show the neighbours real fast if you're making a cnut of it.

If you look at the image above, and have it clearer here in the manual somewhere, it does overlap the whole way, at 15m here atm, and overlapping right back to the wheelings and never a problem, it'll go to 18m but would be nervous of that width when only doing a bag/acre as the rate would be to low and susceptible to wind, and in the corn the sprayer is only 15m so again no point!