Why dont men admit they like muscle on women?

stpaddy99

we say shes fit, shes a fox, she has great legs, but we never go as far as to say her muscles turn me on?

I like biceps on a girl, big powerful calves and solid quadriceps
that being said I don't go for the roid enhanced bodybuilders or those hooked on diuretics etc

I also find people who talk about exercise and diets the most boring people on earth...do it ok but lets talk about something else

don't get me wrong I love womens hips and breasts and round juicy asses, but a bit of muscle goes a long way too.

this area and the sport of bodybuilding too remains something of a taboo/cult in the mainstream? why don't we loosen up and say what we like?

moc moc a moc

I don't find muscular women attractive (and I'm guessing most men are the same). That's why we don't "admit" it.

Liam McPoyle

Well thanks for deciding what I, as a male, like.

Jesus, only for ya!!

Have you any other nuggets of wisdom that I don't yet know about myself?


Seriously though, different people find different things attractive, that, is, life.

Vito Corleone

Not my thing, muscles.

KERSPLAT!

Not a fan myself

M5

Q: Why don't men admit they like muscle on women?
A: Because, in general, they don't!

Galvasean

Are we talking toned or that juiced up shrink wrapped skin look that certain body builders go for? Because if it's the latter I think it just looks weird.

stpaddy99

Galvasean wrote: »

Are we talking toned or that juiced up shrink wrapped skin look that certain body builders go for? Because if it's the latter I think it just looks weird.

as I mentioned this is the in between state of fit strong woman with natural muscle?

OldRio

Most men I know find 'muscle on a woman' awful and with these men I am in agreement.

stpaddy99

OldRio wrote: »

Most men I know find 'muscle on a woman' awful and with these men I am in agreement.

so you like calves with no muscle? thighs with no muscle?

catallus

Thigh muscles. mmmmm. The taut flesh. mmmmm. The smooth tenderness of an inner thigh, giggity.

SamAK

Not bothered to be honest. If a girl works out and has toned arms....that's cool! If not...that's cool.

But strength in a female does tend to push my buttons.

For example, my girl plays roller derby and she's got awesome lower body strength...once she locks on...no way am I getting outta there

Are most men supposed to feel intimidated by a strong female because of the 'dominant caveman' way of thinking where the man is the hunter/fighter and the girl is the wispy little delicate one?

OldRio

stpaddy99 wrote: »

so you like calves with no muscle? thighs with no muscle?

I will repeat what I have written 'Most men I know find 'muscle on a woman' awful and with these men I am in agreement.'
There you go.

Fish Finger Pie

Is it true that body building women can crack walnuts with their minges?

Pat Mustard

stpaddy99 wrote: »

we never go as far as to say her muscles turn me on?

I'd guess that this is a minority interest.

Also, unless you are talking about large muscles, which are rare in women, perhaps you mean lean, muscular women with very low body fat percentages.

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Women require a far higher amount of essential body fat than men:

Essential body fat is approximately 3% of body mass for men and 12% of body mass for women.

It could be that a woman whose body fat percentage is very low may appear unhealthy, and therefore, unattractive.

Also, if you actually meant large muscles (as opposed to very lean, muscular women), the shot-putter look is extremely unattractive. https://www.google.ie/search?q=female+shot+putter&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9WJJU_nhGMmI7Aawo4DYCg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=646

seamus

stpaddy99 wrote: »

so you like calves with no muscle? thighs with no muscle?

That's not really what he's saying.

There's the drainpipe look, which is where the legs (and the arms) are practically the same length all the way along, with zero muscle. Most men find this gross.

Then there's the bodybuilder look, where the woman has a great muscle tone and low body fat, showing off the actual muscles. Most men don't find this attractive. Women's magazines have started going on about the washboard stomach on women. Most men do not find a washboard stomach at all attractive on a woman.

Then there's the normal look, where the woman has decent muscle tone and normal amounts of body fat. It means that she has a shapely appearance, but nicely smoothed over. The majority of women fall into this bracket (it's a very wide bracket) and the majority of men find this attractive.

Ultimately it all comes down to shape and proportion. If you deviate massively from the biologically "normal" body shape and proportions either by eating nothing or exercising too much (or eating too much and not exercising), then you will not be attractive to the majority of people. The same goes for men and women.

The_Pretender

I don't mind a women who squats

Though if they can lift more than me, that's a big turn off...

valor rorghulis

When you say guys don't like women with muscle they're thinking of girls who use steroids

However I've heard a lot of guys say they think Jody Marsh looks great since she started lifting.

Pug160

Weight training can actually make a woman a lot more feminine. Women who look masculine are either taking drugs or just taking things to the extreme in general. There is a big misconception about weight training, and it puts women off doing something that is potentially very beneficial.

MagicMarker

Depends on how much muscle we're talking about really.

Female fitness model? No problems here.

Female bodybuilder? Not my thing.

Galwayguy35

A body like Caroline Morahan has is what I find attractive, I don't think she could be described as muscular could she?

As for the female bodybuilders, no way is that attractive to me.

Morf

Female tennis players for me.

When they are static there isn't obvious muscle definition in the legs but as they move and shift you can see them.

ThirdMan

I don't find it attractive at all. My girlfriend's been working out for the past year. I'm not too gone on her toned biceps and abs. But hey, she's healthy and she feels great. That's the main thing.

ThirdMan

Morf wrote: »

Female tennis players for me.

When they are static there isn't obvious muscle definition in the legs but as they move and shift you can see them.

Tennis must be bloody great for your physique. The women are sexy as hell, obviously, but the lads are in great shape as well. Don't laugh. I mean it. They don't look like athletes. They just look like hardy bastards.

ThirdMan

Like a boss.

saucers82

I am a big fan of female bodybuilders. Just my taste, but defo a minority taste i think

Wibbs

Not "bodybuilders" no, but I personally find muscle tone, the lower end of bodyfat on a lady nice*. The dancer/fitness physique. Two of my exes had the hint of a "four pack" as it were and it got me going anyway. It can go either way though. One of them I hadn't seen in a while and she'd obviously gotten even more into the extreme fitness thing and it kinda went too far, for me anyway. Cool if she was happy with herself, but the body of a 14 year old boy vibe was going on. Like male bodybuilders who get obsessive it can go "some is good, more must be better". Maybe it is to similarly minded folks as themselves, but not so much with the general population I'd reckon.

*Maybe some are more naturally attracted to a similar build to themselves? The egotistical types that prefer to shag themselves if they could. I'd be leaner than the average bear so prefer that in the ladies. It might be down to choice too. I've found over the years that generally "average", or bigger ladies don't find me bodily attractive because I'm scrawnier than average and I've had much more success with skinny malinks, so that could be part of it too.

stpaddy99

Wibbs wrote: »

Not "bodybuilders" no, but I personally find muscle tone, the lower end of bodyfat on a lady nice*. The dancer/fitness physique. Two of my exes had the hint of a "four pack" as it were and it got me going anyway. It can go either way though. One of them I hadn't seen in a while and she'd obviously gotten even more into the extreme fitness thing and it kinda went too far, for me anyway. Cool if she was happy with herself, but the body of a 14 year old boy vibe was going on. Like male bodybuilders who get obsessive it can go "some is good, more must be better". Maybe it is to similarly minded folks as themselves, but not so much with the general population I'd reckon.

*Maybe some are more naturally attracted to a similar build to themselves? The egotistical types that prefer to shag themselves if they could. I'd be leaner than the average bear so prefer that in the ladies. It might be down to choice too. I've found over the years that generally "average", or bigger ladies don't find me bodily attractive because I'm scrawnier than average and I've had much more success with skinny malinks, so that could be part of it too.

finally some sincere responses , have a thanks

saucers82

I work out a lot and think that maybe it would have something to do with attraction to similar build, but also lifestyle comes into play I think.

Morf

stpaddy99 wrote: »

finally some sincere responses , have a thanks

I'm not sure how your logic works there that someone who agrees with you to a point is the "sincere" minority.

Lads like extremely thin ladies, petite, tall, "curvy" to use an awful phrase and there are even those with an attraction to women with quite a large BMI.

There is no set attraction for men although certain traits tend to be more appealing through evolutionary psychology or current trends as has been discussed.

If you like ladies with greater muscle definition then knock yourself out. Expecting others to validate your choice en masse isn't too likely to happen. Accept your preferences and don't give a thought for others' opinions or remarks when it comes to it.

stpaddy99

Morf wrote: »

I'm not sure how your logic works there that someone who agrees with you to a point is the "sincere" minority.

Lads like extremely thin ladies, petite, tall, "curvy" to use an awful phrase and there are even those with an attraction to women with quite a large BMI.

There is no set attraction for men although certain traits tend to be more appealing through evolutionary psychology or current trends as has been discussed.

If you like ladies with greater muscle definition then knock yourself out. Expecting others to validate your choice en masse isn't too likely to happen. Accept your preferences and don't give a thought for others' opinions or remarks when it comes to it.

I stand by what I said 100%

saucers82

although i dont agree with the OP and tend to agree with Morf, i think there is no denying in recent times that females with a bit more muscle are becoming a bit more mainstream - that's what i take from all this.

and the fact this is in my opinion becoming more mainstream it allows guys like myself not to feel embarrassed about being attracted to fit/muscled women.

sin é my two cents

Alf. A. Male

stpaddy99 wrote: »

finally some sincere responses , have a thanks

Responses are only sincere if you imagine they support your ideas? Will you go way outta that. The other responses were, I'm sure, quite sincere, they just disagreed with your ridiculous notion that men find something in particular about women attractive but for some reason won't admit it.

stpaddy99 wrote: »

I stand by what I said 100%

In spite of having no logic to support it and the overwhelming weight of responses in this thread showing your hypothesis to be nonsense.

Men find different things about women attractive and find combinations of different things attractive in different women. That's not rocket science. The idea that you've somehow recognised something about all men that they simply won't admit is frankly laughable.

OldRio

Morf wrote: »

I'm not sure how your logic works there that someone who agrees with you to a point is the "sincere" minority.

Lads like extremely thin ladies, petite, tall, "curvy" to use an awful phrase and there are even those with an attraction to women with quite a large BMI.

There is no set attraction for men although certain traits tend to be more appealing through evolutionary psychology or current trends as has been discussed.

If you like ladies with greater muscle definition then knock yourself out. Expecting others to validate your choice en masse isn't too likely to happen. Accept your preferences and don't give a thought for others' opinions or remarks when it comes to it.

This.
We all like different types of women. The OP should embrace this. Just at a guess, but if the OP had worded the title differently he might have had a better response.

Alf. A. Male

OldRio wrote: »

This.
We all like different types of women. The OP should embrace this. Just at a guess, but if the OP had worded the title differently he might have had a better response.

Unlikely, since the ludicrous notion that men have some universal attraction to muscular women which they are, for some unidentified reason, afraid to express, didn't stop at the title but was carried on through the OP. It was actually addedd to by a more general, but no less baseless, idea that men are for some reason repressed about saying what they're attracted to in women.

Tefral

It's a fine line for me OP. I'd prefer the look of Jen Selter over say Paige Hathaway for example.

The big thing for me is is a girl looks fit then she at least looks after herself. Laziness is not something I find an attractive quality, so if she looks fit then she is more likely to be motivated*, and motivated people are generally more successful at all things they do.

*Medical issues aside.

Penny Tration

stpaddy99 wrote: »

finally some sincere responses , have a thanks

Just because people disagree with you, it doesn't make their response insincere.

I'm female, and I'm chubby (size 14). I have very defined calf muscles due to lots of running and being on my feet 10+ hours a day in work. I hace toned biceps too, but fat triceps so you don't notice it unless I flex.

No matter how much weight I lose, though, I have very big breasts, hips and an ass.

My oh loves them. He says he loves how toned my legs are, but would hate if the rest of me were that toned, simply because he doesn't fancy muscular women. He even jokingly discouraged me from doing weights although, realistically, he supports everything I do.

Ultimately, not everyone likes the same thing.

From a female perspective, I don't like very muscular men. My bf is quite muscular, very toned and defined legs, arms and so on, but no six pack. I'd honestly find him less attractive if he had one. He doesn't have a beer belly (flat stomach actually), but he's not massively toned in his abs area, which I'm glad about.

We don't all like muscular people.

I'd imagine that the amount of men who like muscular women are in the minority tbh.

OldRio

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

Unlikely, since the ludicrous notion that men have some universal attraction to muscular women which they are, for some unidentified reason, afraid to express, didn't stop at the title but was carried on through the OP. It was actually addedd to by a more general, but no less baseless, idea that men are for some reason repressed about saying what they're attracted to in women.

Whilst I agree with you, I was trying to be diplomatic.

smokie72

Personally myself I find women with muscles a big turn off. Makes them look too masculine for my taste. Different strokes for different folks I guess. As another poster said I like a women who looks after herself. They usually look after other aspects of their lives as well.

saucers82

google Cindy Phillips, you will see where i am coming from

vibe666

saucers82 wrote: »

google Cindy Phillips, you will see where i am coming from

nope, nasty. they all are, it's just not nice to look at and i don't imagine most women want to see the bodybuilder look either. :eek:

Pawwed Rig

Bodybuilder type I would say no as it seems to be a very unhealthy lifestyle and imo femininity is lost. Toned, fit muscle Yes.
Healthy body healthy mind and all that, although a one dimensional fitness freak wouldn't be my cup of tea either.

Wibbs

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

although a one dimensional fitness freak wouldn't be my cup of tea either.

+1. Like any personal obsession it starts to get old real quick and the tendency I've noticed is to overdo it.

Pat Mustard

saucers82 wrote: »

google Cindy Phillips, you will see where i am coming from

saucers82 wrote: »

although i dont agree with the OP and tend to agree with Morf, i think there is no denying in recent times that females with a bit more muscle are becoming a bit more mainstream - that's what i take from all this.

and the fact this is in my opinion becoming more mainstream it allows guys like myself not to feel embarrassed about being attracted to fit/muscled women.

sin é my two cents

A bit more muscle? Your idea of a bit more muscle is obviously different to mine. :pac:

Cindy Phillips is obviously a bodybuilder.

When I think of a bit more muscle, I think of Jessica Biel.

Penny Tration

The Mustard wrote: »

A bit more muscle? Your idea of a bit more muscle is obviously different to mine. :pac:

Cindy Phillips is obviously a bodybuilder.

When I think of a bit more muscle, I think of Jessica Biel.

A bodybuilder, and deliberately dehydrated to accentuate the muscles in a lot of those pics.

Jessica biel would be what I'd consider a well toned woman.

KERSPLAT!

Oh God, I wouldn't find her (Cindy) attractive at all!!

Edit: Jessica Biel, she's a fine bitta stuff!

maximoose

saucers82 wrote: »

google Cindy Phillips, you will see where i am coming from

I honestly cannot see how you possibly find that attractive.

KERSPLAT!

The Mustard wrote: »

Are you talking about Jessica Biel????

Jaysus no!!! I have clarified my post ^^^^

Maphisto

Nah not my thing really. I find it quite off putting. Be handy though if I had some heavy lifting to do, or getting the turf saved.

who_me

I like women with muscles. Without them, they'd just flop down on the ground and not move.At least they wouldn't be able to complain about it </sexist boom boom>

Different strokes for different folks - you'd never get everyone to agree on anything. And even what "the majority" agrees on will change over time. Chances are, over the ages pretty much every kind of figure/appearance was considered attractive at some time. Skinny, heavy, muscular, tall, short....

SpaceTime

It kind of applies to both genders though. I don't mean to 'dis' bodybuilders but, sometimes I think it can look a BIT weird when you start to look like your muscles are going to explode out of your arms at any moment.

There is a happy medium 'fit and toned'.