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Child Protection Laws?

  • 10-04-2014 5:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭


    So my sister (9) had her recital for violin today and it was her first time on stage and she was playing along with her piece whilst my mam was recording a video of her playing it. After my sister had finished her recital piece, a lady turned around to my mother and said "How dare you do something like that?". Mother was confused and asked "what?". "Record a video of a child. It's against Child Protection Laws and you should be arrested for that!". Mother then got furious as it was her daughter that she was recording a video of on her first recital in front of an audience.


    To me, that lady was a right nut. I can understand if it was someone else's child that you have no relation to but recording a video of your child playing a violin is considered a breach of Child Protection laws? I think that's not right in the head.

    It is a completely different story if it taking place in a swimming pool but not at a violin recital.


    What are your thoughts about this? Is my mother right about being allowed to record a video of her daughter or was the nuthead right about.

    *AFAIK, there was no rules or regulations about photography during the recital.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    My sister was playing the chelo while I was playing croquet with uncle Philip on the Lawn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    It is a completely different story if it taking place in a swimming pool but not at a violin recital.

    A recital in a swimming pool simply demands to be recorded and shared.

    Also, if you want to know what the laws are, look them up the legislature, not in the opinions of Health and Saftety/PC gone mad people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    She would appear to be wrong. There's loads of relevant info in the link below.

    http://www.artscouncil.ie/Publications/Guidelines.pdf
    The legal context
    Other than the provisions contained in the Child Trafficking and Pornography Acts
    1998/2004, which contain specific provisions on the exploitation of children, there is no
    specific legal constraint on taking photographs or recording visual material with children
    and young people. Photographs and visual images are regarded as personal data under
    the Data Protection Acts 1998/2003. Personal data is defined as data relating to a living
    individual who can be identified from the data or from the data in conjunction with
    other information in the possession of the data controller. It must be obtained fairly,
    accurate, kept up to date and should be kept and used only for one or more specified
    lawful purposes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Yeah a lot of this nonsense going around, went to a conformation a few years ago. Priest reminded everyone when all the children were up at the alter not to take pictures as it was against child protection laws......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    Yeah a lot of this nonsense going around, went to a conformation a few years ago. Priest reminded everyone when all the children were up at the alter not to take pictures as it was against child protection laws......

    Some confirmation outfits leave little to the imagination in fairness!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Yeah a lot of this nonsense going around, went to a conformation a few years ago. Priest reminded everyone when all the children were up at the alter not to take pictures as it was against child protection laws......

    excellent Freudian typo there. :D

    I get quite annoyed with people recording things that they should be experiencing directly though. We can't seem to let things unfold anymore without taking them down for a posterity that will never arrive, given the amount of data we gather. Kid in the OP is one of a generation who will look into a lens rather than an attentive face for parental encouragement. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Way OTT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 swanronson


    Your mother should have told her to stfu!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Bassfish


    I work in child protection and can confirm there are no such laws in existence. Organisations may have their own policies around these things but there are certainly no such laws. Laws would only be broken if the fecorded material was used for some exploitative purpose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    swanronson wrote: »
    Your mother should have told her to stfu!

    My mother was blue in the face, telling her to STFU but the nuthead was being a tít to her over a video.
    Bassfish wrote: »
    I work in child protection and can confirm there are no such laws in existence. Organisations may have their own policies around these things but there are certainly no such laws. Laws would only be broken if the fecorded material was used for some exploitative purpose.

    That's what I thought. I know there's law if it's being use to exploit something but certainly not something personal that my mother would keep as a memory.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    My sister was playing the chelo while I was playing croquet with uncle Philip on the Lawn.

    At least you got croquet right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭cynicalcough


    Agreed, also work in CP and there is no legal basis for this. The school might have a policy on use of technology and images but they should have communicated this to your mother if this is not allowed.

    Long story short, busybody sticking her oar in with no legal basis whatsoever


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