Unpopular Gaming Opinions

kunst nugget

Every section has an unpopular opinions thread so I thought I'd start one here for gaming.

My one is that I think Spelunky is sheee-ite. I tried several hundred times to play it and I just can't get it at all. Every so often I read on here or someone else how brilliant and I go back to try it again, convinced I'll finally figure out what I'm missing about that game and find the path Spelunky enlightenment. Then I die another hundred times and I end up with a week of internalised rage that I take out on innocent people. Also, I bought it crossbuy on the PS Store so I have it taunting me on my PS3 and my Vita anytime I flick through my games and I won't dump it because I'm convinced someday I'll play it and everything will click for me. It never does... Fúck you, Spelunky!!!

The other for me is that a lot of people seem to think Joel in the Last of Us is an asshat and totally unlikeable. Maybe it's my impending middle age but I could relate to him. Kids are a pain in the arse going on a 60 mile car trip, imagine how annoying having to walk one across a dystopian America wasteland would be.

So what are other people's unpopular gaming opinions?

o1s1n

I'm a huge Mario fan but I cannot stand Mario Kart games. Never got the hype.

Give me Micro Machines on the Megadrive with four controllers over it any day.

gimmick

Far Cry 3 is not worth the effort.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

mass effect 1 was the only decent game in the series

also red dead was boring

Mr E

Halo games... meh.

Thargor

Online gaming sucks, all of it. I only play SP games. Anyone I watch playing CoD or counterstrike or whatever seem to be in more of a trance than taking actual pleasure from playing the way I do with single player stuff.

Dravokivich

Batman Arkham Asylum/City were rather dull.

degrassinoel

Agreed with Spelunky being awful.
Anno 2070 was a load of me hole.
I liked the ending(s) to ME3, particularly the extended cut.
Far Cry 3 was overrated and felt like playing through a Uwe Boll film.
Bioshock Infinite was worth one playthrough, it's aesthetically beautiful but has no substance, highly overrated.
Nico Bellic was a great character and GTAIV was a class game.
DayZ is not as good as everyone thinks it is.
Tomb Raider's QTE's ruined what could have been an awesome game.
The Batman series is boring.
Warhammer 40K Spacemarine is a lot better than everyone thinks it is.
Mafia 2 was mostly dull, and terribly short.

Cant think of any other's atm

Retr0gamer

Last of Us isn't all that special. It's a bit clunky and the story while well written has been done to death especially zombies. Brilliant game but best of all time, not even close.

Shadow Complex is a fairly average metroid clone.

The first two Zelda CDi games are pretty good, it's the third one that is utter garbage.

Enslaved is meh and not underrated. Most of the reviews are spot on.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is not a good game.

Heavy Rain's story absolutely sucks and wouldn't even be considered in a low brow american crime TV series.

Ni No Kuni was one of the worst RPGs released last year.

Aladdin on the megadrive looks lovely but is a mediocre game. The SNES version plays a lot better.

Asura's Wrath is fantastic and the DLC people complained about is even better

Sonic Adventure was never that good.

Legend of Dragoon is one of the worst RPGs inflicyed on the world.

Kingpin is a load of ****

Max Payne 1 and 2 got boring fast

The SNES Donkey Kong Country games were pretty mediocre.

Contra Hard Corp on the Mega Drive is a far, far better game than Contra 3/Super Probotector

Contra on the NES is one of the easier games on the system

New Super Mario Bros on the DS is a bland and unimaginative platformer. The Wii and WiiU version however are two of the best platformers ever made and up there with the best in the series.

The Wii is a great console with more great games on it than the N64 or original Xbox.

Kirby

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Last of Us isn't all that special.

The SNES Donkey Kong Country games were pretty mediocre.

Contra Hard Corp on the Mega Drive is a far, far better game than Contra 3/Super Probotector

I disagree so strongly with these three statements I felt the need to write a 11 paragraph post explaining why you are wrong.

Instead I deleted it all and will just shake my head in exasperation. :P

I suppose my own unpopular opinion would be on Minecraft and League of Legends. I find both dreadfully dull.

readyletsgo

Joel in TLoU, as OP says, is pretty cool, I liked him.

Super Mario 3D World (as a massive Mario fan) made no impact on me at all! Wouldnt go back to it.

Mario Sunshine is a brilliant Mario game.

Final Fantasy, I just dont get it.....

The Gamecube was the Best system of that Gen.

360 is pants, had one for years, never liked any of their franchises, Halo? meh, love the controller though.

VR is gonna bomb if not priced right.

The Wii U gamepad is awesome! But so sorely under-used.

I dont get Pokemon.

The Vita is a very expensive Indie handheld (and I love it!).

Iwata-san needs to be removed from Nintendo.

Dont know if its an unpopular opinion but I HATE the Wiimotes and I am glad Ninty are going with the Gamepad, back to real controls, in a way.

And Minecraft, if I was a 5 year old then yeah I would be all over it as its like Lego. Another one I just dont get...

Angron

degrassinoel wrote: »

Warhammer 40K Spacemarine is a lot better than everyone thinks it is.

This I agree with. I'd like if Relic made a sequel some day, unlikely though that is. I would settle for a Dawn of War 3 however.

o1s1n wrote: »

I'm a huge Mario fan but I cannot stand Mario Kart games. Never got the hype.

Give me Micro Machines on the Megadrive with four controllers over it any day.

Personally I was a bigger fan of Crash Team Racing.

I'm indifferent to Halo at best.
I do not like the Final Fantasy series. I was watching a stream of 10 being played, and just didn't get why the series is so popular. Perhaps it's just that I usually prefer Western RPGs.
I also didn't really care about Uncharted.

Going Strong

Angron wrote: »

This I agree with. I'd like if Relic made a sequel some day, unlikely though that is. I would settle for a Dawn of War 3 however.


Personally I was a bigger fan of Crash Team Racing.

I'm indifferent to Halo at best.
I do not like the Final Fantasy series. I was watching a stream of 10 being played, and just didn't get why the series is so popular. Perhaps it's just that I usually prefer Western RPGs.
I also didn't really care about Uncharted.

I blame Final Fantasy for breaking my previous XBox with its feck off huge cutscenes breaking the disc drive. One of the games, I had no control over the game for something like 22 minutes what with the cutscenes. Feck the feck off and let me play the fecking game like what I paid my fecking money to do. Oh, and take your stupid turn-based combat and put in on a board game where it belongs and then shove it up your bum for even thinking it matters in the 21st century.

_Redzer_

Those aren't fúcking zombies in the last of us!!

They never died to come back to life as zombies, they're alive just infected with cordyceps, they can die just like any other person.

Retr0gamer

I didn't like Crash Team Racing at all. It's about the same quality as Mario Kart 64 but that game wasn't very good either. It's got a lot of very bland tracks (which MK64 suffers from as well).

Angron

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I didn't like Crash Team Racing at all. It's about the same quality as Mario Kart 64 but that game wasn't very good either. It's got a lot of very bland tracks (which MK64 suffers from as well).

ShadowHearth

Ah, thread about telling your pet Hates in gaming freely! Love these!

Here we go:

Halo series - number one, most over rated franchise in a history of gaming.

First party nintendo franchises ( specially Zelda and Mario) - number two and three most over rated franchises in history of gaming.

Hardcore nintendo fanbase - the most smug group of gamers on a planet.

Kirby

Kirby wrote: »

I disagree so strongly with these three statements I felt the need to write a 11 paragraph post explaining why you are wrong.

Instead I deleted it all and will just shake my head in exasperation. :P

I suppose my own unpopular opinion would be on Minecraft and League of Legends. I find both dreadfully dull.

If he continually references them as 'zombies' in the Last of Us, this where I shake my head :rolleyes:

nullzero

Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game in that series...

johnny_ultimate

90% of single-players games are far too long, wasting players' time through repetition, grinding etc...

I find it very hard to play many older - and, in some cases, newer - RPGs because of their relentless random encounter rate, even when I like everything else surrounding the fighting and even the battle mechanics themselves. As sacrilegious as it sounds, I think a lot of classic JRPGs would play even better with something like Bravely Default's robust encounter settings (even if it would obviously screw up the difficulty in the process).

I think there are if not definitive at least reasonable thematic and narrative justifications for Bioshock Infinite's endless gauntlet of combat.

Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward did more interesting and subversive things with gaming narratives than The Walking Dead.

I have a soft spot for GTAIV, especially its rendering of Liberty City. Although obviously GTAV improved upon it in pretty much every concievable way (even if the city doesn't quite pack the same punch as Liberty).

Arkham City was a notable step back compared to Asylum - the former felt like a leaner, 'punchier' experience.

As overly PC as it makes me sound, the representation of female characters in Dragon's Crown is truly deplorable and childish, even taking into account the exaggeration of some male characters too. Obviously not the only game to fall into this category, but playing it at the moment and certain images are excessive even by gaming's hypersexual standards.

Mass Effect 2 was the most engaging in the series, certainly in terms of storytelling and gameplay flow. The third was disappointing in ways well beyond its infamous ending, while the first all too often felt like a stodgy compromise between shooter and RPG mechanics.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Last of Us isn't all that special... Brilliant game

'It's only brilliant' must be one of the strangest criticisms I've ever heard :pac:

nullzero

nullzero wrote: »

Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game in that series...

I struggled with my replay of this game when I purchased the HD collection. The controls seem so archaic to me now, considering the last time I played it I owned a PS2

ShadowHearth

nullzero wrote: »

Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game in that series...

I loved it. I don't know if first one or second one is my favourite. It got so much hate for having Riden as main character, but I liked him. I only discovered the hate for him when I started using Internet gaming community forums. To what I was a bit surprised.

kunst nugget

I don't understand people getting annoyed about people calling the infected in the Last of Us zombies. I don't think it's going to hurt the Infected's feelings and the seem to be following the modern template we've seen used for zombies since 28 Days Later (Yeah, I know, they're not zombies either…). Out of curiosity, in the TLoU universe can the Infected die of hunger?

Maybe not that unpopular but after playing through Tomb Raider and enjoying it a lot I thought the very end of it was a bit whimpery and flat.

The QTE to kill the final guy was over in a second. I had myself geared up for a massive boss battle.

Retr0gamer

kunst nugget wrote: »

I don't understand people getting annoyed about people calling the infected in the Last of Us zombies. I don't think it's going to hurt the Infected's feelings and the seem to be following the modern template we've seen used for zombies since 28 Days Later (Yeah, I know, they're not zombies either…). Out of curiosity, in the TLoU universe can the Infected die of hunger?

It's not just 28 days later. Traditionally zombie movies and other pieces of media never refer to them as zombies, usually as something else or just don't give them a name. It's something which started with the '... of the Dead' series and continued. It's very rare that zombies are actually referred to as zombies.

As William Shakespeare famously said, 'A zombie by any other name would smell as bad'.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

shaun of the dead makes a good joke about that

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

I don't understand people getting annoyed about people calling the infected in the Last of Us zombies. I don't think it's going to hurt the Infected's feelings and the seem to be following the modern template we've seen used for zombies since 28 Days Later (Yeah, I know, they're not zombies either…). Out of curiosity, in the TLoU universe can the Infected die of hunger?

Maybe not that unpopular but after playing through Tomb Raider and enjoying it a lot I thought the very end of it was a bit whimpery and flat.

The QTE to kill the final guy was over in a second. I had myself geared up for a massive boss battle.

Infected & Zombies;

Infected in the last of us; Intelligent - Fast moving - have various stages of infection & mutation, with a more realistic approach via Cordyceps Brain infection.


Zombies - George A Romero - Slow moving - Thousands all huddled in a swarm - Dumb as **** -Zombies die only when their brain is destroyed. Zombies are dead. They are walking corpses. On the other hand, infected are living beings that have been infected by some pathogen.

Mycroft H

I never liked Final Fantasy VII and as a result, never bothered with the rest.

Mycroft H

Mycroft H wrote: »

I never liked Final Fantasy VII and as a result, never bothered with the rest.

I'm vice versa - loved FF7;

Couldnt stand the rest even after multiple trys

Mickeroo

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I find it very hard to play many older - and, in some cases, newer - RPGs because of their relentless random encounter rate, even when I like everything else surrounding the fighting and even the battle mechanics themselves. As sacrilegious as it sounds, I think a lot of classic JRPGs would play even better with something like Bravely Default's robust encounter settings (even if it would obviously screw up the difficulty in the process).

Never made it through FF VII because of the random encounter crap. Just make the encounters an organic part of the story please and have less of them.

kunst nugget

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's not just 28 days later. Traditionally zombie movies and other pieces of media never refer to them as zombies, usually as something else or just don't give them a name. It's something which started with the '... of the Dead' series and continued. It's very rare that zombies are actually referred to as zombies.

As William Shakespeare famously said, 'A zombie by any other name would smell as bad'.

Yeah, even The Walking Dead calls them 'Walkers'. Do all zombie movies take place in a parallel universe where zombie movies never existed? Whatever about when the original 'Return of the Living Dead' film came out but if there was a zombie outbreak to happen now, everyone would automatically be aiming for the head. I do find that a bit annoying in modern zombie films or modern non-sparkly vampire films where people supposedly seem to know nothing about the mythology and then react surprisingly to things everyone knows. A bit more self awareness in those types of movies wouldn't go astray.

Blazer

Battlefield 4 is cack, Battlefield 3 point frakking one is more like it.
Planeside- Cack

Someone said Max Payne 1? How dare you? That game is hilarious throughout.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

kunst nugget wrote: »

Yeah, even The Walking Dead calls them 'Walkers'. Do all zombie movies take place in a parallel universe where zombie movies never existed? Whatever about when the original 'Return of the Living Dead' film came out but if there was a zombie outbreak to happen now, everyone would automatically be aiming for the head. I do find that a bit annoying in modern zombie films or modern non-sparkly vampire films where people supposedly seem to know nothing about the mythology and then react surprisingly to things everyone knows. A bit more self awareness in those types of movies wouldn't go astray.

well they'd be very very short and boring movies then

"200 corpses in a small american town have come back to life mr president, they're biting and attacking people and those people seem to be rising from the dead themselves"

"fair enough, send down some marines and tell them to shoot them all in the head. shouldn't take them too long"

FortuneChip

FFVIII is better than FFVII. Squall > Cloud. That said, Tidus > Squall.

MGS2 easily has the most replay value of the MGS series. Story was a bit gash, but far more entertaining.

Halo is a bog standard, fit for purpose FPS. It did not redefine a genre, it just joined it.

Someone mentioned how Online FPS just put people in a trance. Absolutely spot on, and that's coming from someone that can appreciate has been hypnotised playing COD over the years.

I don't know if it's unpopular, but Uncharted 2 was the best of the series, by some distance. The third had some great set pieces, but was nowhere near the standard of the second.

Potential-Monke

Turn-based fighting has no place in Gaming. It's terrible and ruins what could be a good game and, as such, could never get into the FF series so i think they're all pants.

Also, whatever fighting system is used in KotOR - started it recently on recommendation (of some of you fine folks) and i despise the fighting system, it's like a step below turn based, so i dislike the games now.

Sonic, and his games, are boring. Hold right, press jump a few times...

Dark Souls gets too much praise.

Halo is terrible. All of them.

CoD multiplayer is the only mp to keep me coming back for more (except Ghosts, that was terrible), ergo best mp game 9specifically, MW1).

Graphics matter to a certain degree; no matter how good a game is if it looks dated it's not very hard to play it or get any enjoyment from it. I'm no graphics snob, but some games just didn't stand the test of time and it can ruin rose-tinted memories (I'm looking at you, Goldeneye).

I'm sure i'll think of more!

richymcdermott

Red dead , Gta 5 and Max Payne 3 I found to be very boring uninteresting games

Portal 2 has piss poor jokes and the long corridor disrupted the flow of the game which left a bitter taste in my mouth

I do Not really care for mario games

The last of us is overrated as ****

Uncharted 3 was awful

Sonic adventure is better than mario 64

Retr0gamer

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Infected & Zombies;

Infected in the last of us; Intelligent - Fast moving - have various stages of infection & mutation, with a more realistic approach via Cordyceps Brain infection.


Zombies - George A Romero - Slow moving - Thousands all huddled in a swarm - Dumb as **** -Zombies die only when their brain is destroyed. Zombies are dead. They are walking corpses. On the other hand, infected are living beings that have been infected by some pathogen.

You really just don't get it do you.

Retr0gamer

richymcdermott wrote: »

I do Not really care for mario games

Ah here, you keep telling me that and then you go play one of them and come back to me saying... 'yeah I changedmy mind, that was really good'.

Fecking Sonic fanboy

penev10

I don't understand the fuss about Indie games... phew, glad I got that off my chest:)

Any I've played, which are usually the highly rated ones like Limbo, Flower, Pixeljunk, Dead Nation etc., just feel amateurish.

They are the gaming equivalent of the Emperor's New Clothes and I think they get overly generous reviews (and disproportionately high ratings).

I was heavily involved in the original Little Big Planet community and some of the stuff that was being produced there was easily as good as the top-rated Indie games.

johnny_ultimate

I would like to emphasise I do genuinely love turn-based combat - at its best, a full hour or more can pass without you noticing in the midst of a single intense, challenging battle full of strategy, twists and turnarounds.

The issue I have with poorly considered random encounters is that they can make exploration an absolute chore, and make you simply want to progress to the next major fight, town or story development. Bravely Default does a great job at minimising the frustration while retaining random encounters, whereas games like Persona 3/4 or Ni No Kuni significantly improve the situation by having the 'monsters' exist in the world, offering the player some warning or the potential opportunity to bypass them entirely.

Going Strong

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Turn-based fighting has no place in Gaming.

Graphics matter to a certain degree; no matter how good a game is if it looks dated it's not very hard to play it or get any enjoyment from it. I'm no graphics snob, but some games just didn't stand the test of time and it can ruin rose-tinted memories (I'm looking at you, Goldeneye).

I'm sure i'll think of more!

Not getting at you or anything but... After Skyrim came out, I read a lot of complaints that the AI characters weren't realistic enough and the mouths didn't move in the correct way etc. I mean, how about they leave their mom's basement once in a while and go and meet real people instead of pestering the game's designers to make fake people look more realistic for them to interact with?

ShadowHearth

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Turn-based fighting has no place in Gaming. It's terrible and ruins what could be a good game and, as such, could never get into the FF series so i think they're all pants.

Also, whatever fighting system is used in KotOR - started it recently on recommendation (of some of you fine folks) and i despise the fighting system, it's like a step below turn based, so i dislike the games now.

Sonic, and his games, are boring. Hold right, press jump a few times...

Dark Souls gets too much praise.

Halo is terrible. All of them.

CoD multiplayer is the only mp to keep me coming back for more (except Ghosts, that was terrible), ergo best mp game 9specifically, MW1).

Graphics matter to a certain degree; no matter how good a game is if it looks dated it's not very hard to play it or get any enjoyment from it. I'm no graphics snob, but some games just didn't stand the test of time and it can ruin rose-tinted memories (I'm looking at you, Goldeneye).

I'm sure i'll think of more!

Are you talking about Jrpg style turn based combat or in general? I understand where the hate for Jrpg turn based coming from, but turn based system in games are great. I think my most favourite games are all turn based.
I loved Jagged Alliance 2 and 2.5 and it would be a perfect example how you can destroy franchise by trying to remove turn based system in sequal.
Fallout 2, my favourite game of all times. Pure turn based game.
X com, Civilisation, Heroes franchise are amazing turn based games.

Retr0gamer

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Turn-based fighting has no place in Gaming. It's terrible and ruins what could be a good game and, as such, could never get into the FF series so i think they're all pants.

I'd be more inclined to say that real time battle systems are terrible and I don't like them (I'd probably be in the minority there). Never enjoyed the battle system of a real time RPG like Baldur's Gate or even Mass Effect. I prefer the strategy that turn based affords the player. Even the real time ones I do like such as Xenoblade and Secret of Mana are pseudo turn based.

BTW Final Fantasy's turn based system is not very good and not a good barometer of how good turn based can be. For that you'd have to look to stuff like Shin Megami Tensei or Grandia (which for me is the pinnacle of RPG battle systems).

richymcdermott

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Ah here, you keep telling me that and then you go play one of them and come back to me saying... 'yeah I changedmy mind, that was really good'.

Fecking Sonic fanboy

you listen here boy-oh I try to bloody like them and then what happens turn them off and play something else , how long you been telling me to get mario 3d world 5-6 months ? and I still cant be bothered :P

Damn right I am a sonic fanboy :L

Mickeroo

Gah, the whole zombie not zombie thing is a joke. They're all zombies end of regardless of whether they can run or how they ended up that way be it through a voodoo curse or a virus or a sumatran rat monkey. It's no different to the way other monsters have been portrayed over the years.

o1s1n

The N64 is an awful console with only a handful of games which are still relevant.

It's controller should never have seen the light of day.

The ratio between those who remember the console fondly and those who had it at their first console (therefore have their judgement clouded by nostalgia and rose tinted glasses) is 1:1.

Ocarina of Time is overrated :pac:

Retr0gamer

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Bravely Default does a great job at minimising the frustration while retaining random encounters, whereas games like Persona 3/4 or Ni No Kuni significantly improve the situation by having the 'monsters' exist in the world, offering the player some warning or the potential opportunity to bypass them entirely.

I can live with random encounters as long as the encounter rate is low or in the case of some games like Etrian Odyssey which gives an indication of when an encounter is likely to take place. My main pet hate is something like Ni No Kuni where the battle system takes too bloody long and kills the pace of the game.

Still I agree that unless you are making something deliberately old school like Etrian Odyssey then there's no place for random encounters in games especially considering that Earthbound and Chrono Trigger didn't have them as far back as 1994 on the SNES! Even games like Bravely Default and Etrian Odyssey at least make modern concessions for random battles to make them less infuriating.

johnny_ultimate

penev10 wrote: »

I don't understand the fuss about Indie games... phew, glad I got that off my chest:)

Any I've played, which are usually the highly rated ones like Limbo, Flower, Pixeljunk, Dead Nation etc., just feel amateurish.

They are the gaming equivalent of the Emperor's New Clothes and I think they get overly generous reviews (and disproportionately high ratings).

I was heavily involved in the original Little Big Planet community and some of the stuff that was being produced there was easily as good as the top-rated Indie games.

Indie games is point blank not a one-size fits all descriptor, though. All it refers to is games produced independently, not a 'type' of game. They can range from insanely in-depth RPGs to abstract and experimental titles, as well as pretty much everything in between. Dismissing all 'indie games' in one foul swoop is a wild generalisation

Retr0gamer

Mickeroo wrote: »

sumatran rat monkey.

I'm sick to death of zombies but I'd kill for another film where the zombies are caused by a sumatran rat monkey.

Retr0gamer

richymcdermott wrote: »

you listen here boy-oh I try to bloody like them and then what happens turn them off and play something else , how long you been telling me to get mario 3d world 5-6 months ? and I still cant be bothered :P

Damn right I am a sonic fanboy :L

I'm not taking that from a man that would rather play Sonic '06 and claim it's under rated than Mario 64 :P

penev10

Mickeroo wrote: »

Gah, the whole zombie not zombie thing is a joke.

Agreed. How many different rule-sets and origins have been attributed to vampires down through the decades and yet it never causes much debate.

Zombies is as zombies does.

(I just prefer the slow, menacing Romero ones.)

Dunnie1982

Assassins Creed games are boring and repetitive.
Metal Gear Solid series is overrated, except for 2 & Splinter Cell are superior games.
I don't get the hype around Pokemon.
EA are not so bad and I don't mind Origin.