PPS details sold to PIs by Civil Servants

MadsL

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/probe-into-sale-of-pps-numbers-30159187.html

Dept of Social Protection (again) is being investigated for the sale of information. How is it that any Govt Department cannot track employees who look at your data and fire those that have no business in there? It is becoming laughable at this stage.

Solutions AH?

wazky

MadsL wrote: »

Solutions AH?

Salt-water solution?

amen

track employees who look at your data and fire those that have no business in there?

donvito99

The next scandal, the Government must fall soon.

MadsL

wazky wrote: »

Salt-water solution?

The bitter tears of the citizen?

Gumbo

Don't the banks have some system that logs who is looking at who's accounts? Ie you can't simply search for Ronan Keating and see what he has in his account?

But there seems to be some case of fraud on the people that requested the info so the staff involved may have been unaware.

In most cases, the private investigators posed as government agencies to illegally obtain the data. But in at least one other case, officials are investigating whether the information was willingly sold on by welfare officials.

MadsL

kceire wrote: »

But there seems to be some case of fraud on the people that requested the info so the staff involved may have been unaware.

Hello this is the Guards...

Right so, how can we help.

:rolleyes:

Fucks sake, have these people no brains at all.

Pat Mustard

MadsL wrote: »

Solutions AH?

Prosecute them for disclosure of official information under the Official Secrets Act.

And fire them.

shopaholic01

The Mustard wrote: »

Prosecute them for disclosure of official information under the Official Secrets Act.

And fire them.

Would it not be the Data Protection Act?

Gatling

Waterboard the whole department and see whats actually been happening all this time

humbert

Criminal charges. Would swiftly solve the problem. Wont happen.

Mr. Incognito

Mandatory request required in writing?

My name is URL

humbert wrote: »

Criminal charges. Would swiftly solve the problem. Wont happen.

Another crony judge will probably be taken out of retirement to investigate it :rolleyes:

Gumbo

MadsL wrote: »

Hello this is the Guards...

Right so, how can we help.

:rolleyes:

Fucks sake, have these people no brains at all.

Is that what happened :eek:

Antar Bolaeisk

MadsL wrote: »

Hello this is the Guards...

Right so, how can we help.

:rolleyes:

Fucks sake, have these people no brains at all.

kceire wrote: »

Is that what happened :eek:

You seem to know a lot about this MadsL...

snubbleste

Remember when that Limerick woman won the Lotto..about 100 DSP employees snooped on her file. All they got was a wee slap on the wrist.

everdead.ie

Does anyone else think if this was ten years ago we'd never hear about these scandals?

The one thing I will say is that of all the scandals so far the majority were in practice before the current government and I think at least this government has. Started dragging people in to answer for their actions.
This is progress I can only imagine all the stuff that's left to come though.

maryishere

snubbleste wrote: »

Remember when that Limerick woman won the Lotto..about 100 DSP employees snooped on her file. All they got was a wee slap on the wrist.

what else could be done?

MadsL

everdead.ie wrote: »

Does anyone else think if this was ten years ago we'd never hear about these scandals?

The one thing I will say is that of all the scandals so far the majority were in practice before the current government and I think at least this government has. Started dragging people in to answer for their actions.
This is progress I can only imagine all the stuff that's left to come though.

This is not the first time the DPC has investigated Welfare and found them lacking in basic Data Protection practices...

Phoebas

donvito99 wrote: »

The next scandal, the Government must fall soon.

A pigeon crapped on my car yesterday and the government did nothing to prevent it - they must fall soon. :mad:

hfallada

How is this news? It's been well known for years that you can buy a Pps on the black market for about €50. There is millions more Pps numbers active for Ireland than people living here.

I can't understand why the EU haven't created a new European wide Pps number. Everytime you move to a new eu country you have to get a new social security number

Guy:Incognito

donvito99 wrote: »

the Government must fall soon.

That won't change any of the civil servants in the departments.

Dr Turk Turkelton

MadsL wrote: »

Hello this is the Guards...

Right so, how can we help.

:rolleyes:

Fucks sake, have these people no brains at all.

Sergeant Turk Turkelton answers phone:
[puts on thick culchie accent]
ara that would be a civil matter
[\accent]
Hangs up phone.

Santa Cruz

snubbleste wrote: »

Remember when that Limerick woman won the Lotto..about 100 DSP employees snooped on her file. All they got was a wee slap on the wrist.

Wouldn't mind spanking her

bear1

Every week there is a new scandal... sure is there anything legit left in the Government at all??

mikeym

Greedy civil servants

Dravokivich

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Would it not be the Data Protection Act?

That's for the department or organisation as far as I'm aware, if they don't have something in place to limit or monitor ones access, that person really can't be done for it.

Lando Griffin

MadsL wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/probe-into-sale-of-pps-numbers-30159187.html

Dept of Social Protection (again) is being investigated for the sale of information. How is it that any Govt Department cannot track employees who look at your data and fire those that have no business in there? It is becoming laughable at this stage.

This is an outrage, something must be done, I dont want any Tom Dick and Harry up in Dublin being able to tap into my affairs, bloody hell.:mad:

hfallada wrote: »

I can't understand why the EU haven't created a new European wide Pps number. Everytime you move to a new eu country you have to get a new social security number

Yea like as if they dont have enough information on us all-ready, I wouldn't stand for this as it encroaches my privacy.:mad:

Davarus Walrus

All civil servants and politicians should be shoved into a large rocket and fired into space. That will show them. Only then can the daycent plain people of Ireland overcome the tyranny of the elite and bring about fundamental change in how we run the country.

Pat Mustard

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Would it not be the Data Protection Act?

Disclosure of official information under s.4 of the Official Secrets Act, 1963.

But you're right, there would also be offences under the Data Protection Acts.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1988/en/act/pub/0025/sec0022.html#sec22

Holsten

So easy to stop and punish.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

trashcan

kceire wrote: »

Is that what happened :eek:

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly how it happened.

Aongus Von Bismarck

When you reduce people's salaries to such an extent that they are struggling week to week to get by, then this is the end result.

Pat Mustard

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

When you reduce people's salaries to such an extent that they are struggling week to week to get by, then this is the end result.

That's an unfair comment, considering that so many people in the private sector are also struggling to get by.

Cee-Jay-Cee

The dept of social protection keep
Logs of every key stroke on their department computers and so nothing can be hidden however unless a problem is flagged then they have no way of checking who is doing what. There isno physical way to keep a constant watch on absolutely everything everyone does but when a problem is highlighted, those suspected of wrongdoing have very little scope for excuses as everything they do is recorded and can be accessed at shy time.

irishgeo

most PI's are ex guards so who how to work the system.