What defines a property boundary?

murphaph

We're in the process of buying a site over here in Germany and part of the process will involve an (expensive) state approved surveyor coming out and measuring the site off using existing boundary markers and then placing new markers that set the boundary of our site (which is being "carved" from a larger one). These markers can be seen everywhere. Interfering with them is an offence.

So, how do we legally define the boundaries of real property in Ireland, especially property that is not enclosed by a fence or wall? Whatever we use must "work", but how does it work exactly?

snubbleste

a line on a property portfolio map

meathstevie

murphaph wrote: »

We're in the process of buying a site over here in Germany and part of the process will involve an (expensive) state approved surveyor coming out and measuring the site off using existing boundary markers and then placing new markers that set the boundary of our site (which is being "carved" from a larger one). These markers can be seen everywhere. Interfering with them is an offence.

So, how do we legally define the boundaries of real property in Ireland, especially property that is not enclosed by a fence or wall? Whatever we use must "work", but how does it work exactly?

Ireland has a property registry as well as Germany, every parcel of land has a unique folio number with an accompanying map marking the boundaries as well. If those boundaries are just a line on the map or a wall doesn't legally diminish or augment ones title. It's not like properly qualified surveyors here are cheap either.

murphaph

snubbleste wrote: »

a line on a property portfolio map

Yeah German states have the same maps as well but the "lines on the map" have to be found when it's time to build in the right place. The German system uses marker points to mark these lines out on the ground so I can put my fence in the right place. How do we do it in Ireland?

Let's say I buy a site in an open field. Does someone "official" come out and mark off the boundary on the ground? What happens if the adjacent land owner disputes the boundary, how are such disputes resolved?

Peppa Cig

meathstevie wrote: »

Ireland has a property registry as well as Germany, every parcel of land has a unique folio number with an accompanying map marking the boundaries as well. If those boundaries are just a line on the map or a wall doesn't legally diminish or augment ones title. It's not like properly qualified surveyors here are cheap either.

Do folio maps not state that they "may not be accurate" and cannot be used to ultimately determine actual boundary, or words to that effect?

Mrs OBumble

murphaph wrote: »

Whatever we use must "work" ...

What ever makes you think that?

I think you'll find plenty of boundary disputes here if you look.

Just the other week a colleague was telling me about the house they want to buy having eaves that overlap the boundary.

murphaph

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

What ever makes you think that?

I think you'll find plenty of boundary disputes here if you look.

Just the other week a colleague was telling me about the house they want to buy having eaves that overlap the boundary.

Yeah but on the whole it works. I'm sure there are boundary disputes in Germany as well, even with the markers in the ground.

Victor

Often, in urban areas, where there are sections of the footpath that aren't in the charge of the council, i.e. privately owned, there will be a brass strip along the boundary.