Anybody doing the Great Run Sunday?

who_ru

hi,

just had a look at the route through the phoenix park for the great ireland run this sunday. looks like the 2nd 5km on the day is hilly, not what you want, id prefer that at the start to get it out of the way.

cant post an image of the route, it's a pdf file, but looks like we go up the hill by st. mary's hospital, this is at the 7km point, prior to that looks like we cut across the section by magazine fort, few hills there too.

but sure it'll be grand on the day eh! have never actually done 10k before.

GOOSEPAUL

Doing it too. Should be good even though there are hills. Did the FIT race last month and the hills killed me the second time around. Best of luck on Sunday.

hawkwing

I'm going again (8th yr in a row),and as there is no mention of Bekele there will be 1 less ahead of me this year which makes a top 1300 place a possibility:o Nothing much about what elites are going,Irish or otherwise??

RacoonQueen

hawkwing wrote: »

I'm going again (8th yr in a row),and as there is no mention of Bekele there will be 1 less ahead of me this year which makes a top 1300 place a possibility:o Nothing much about what elites are going,Irish or otherwise??

http://www.rte.ie/sport/features/2013/0114/362634-great-ireland-run/

Krusty_Clown

Isn't it unusual that this is the national 10k event, and it is probably the least spoken about race in the race calendar? Do club athletes no longer take this race seriously?

vitani

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Isn't it unusual that this is the national 10k event, and it is probably the least spoken about race in the race calendar? Do club athletes no longer take this race seriously?

Very few of our seniors are doing it, even though the training sessions for the last few weeks have been building up to it.

harry999

I see limited entry still available - what is cost of entry? Thks

brutes1

I hear about 600 entered via AAI GIR for National 10k, so probably 400 of those will run..
I actually really enjoy this race, plenty of buzz around it and live on telly. Course is a tough second half after a flying first half.. But last km is really quick if you have anything left...
All these Nationals in Dublin is a costly business for country cousins who have to travel..

Re elites, always a good few in it Korir World cross country champ is running in Mens .
Womens has Fionnuala B, will be up v Sophie Duarte , Helen Clitheroe, maybe Catherina Mckeirnan will have a good run. http://sportsnewsireland.com/olympics2016/european-cross-country-champion-confirmed-for-spar-great-ireland-run-next-sunday-2014-04-01/#

Run and Jump

I'll be there - I've done loads of races in the Phoenix Park since moving back to Ireland last summer and this is my first time doing the Great Ireland Run. Yes, the course is hilly in the second half but that'll be a good challenge. I'm looking forward to it.

RubyK

Can anyone who knows the course, give me an idea where the hills are and how long they are? Always presumed the phoenix park was flat having running through it during DCM. Guess we only ran through the flat part

RayCun

here's the profile
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/3525012

First 4k flat
a k downhill (Kyber Road)
up Military
rolling up and down through the S-bends
up Upper Glen Road
and the last k is flat

Oops69

RubyK wrote: »

Can anyone who knows the course, give me an idea where the hills are and how long they are? Always presumed the phoenix park was flat having running through it during DCM. Guess we only ran through the flat part

Hill is 7- 9 k you ran down it in Dcm on the way to water stop at chapelizod , it s a bit tougher the other way! , Dcm wasn't all flat in the park there is a more gentle incline in the bit that's run there ,but not flat although it doesn't feel bad as it's the early part of the marathon .

who_ru

where/if possible i'll be running on the grass to save the back a bit.

BeepBeep67

brutes1 wrote: »

I hear about 600 entered via AAI GIR for National 10k, so probably 400 of those will run..
I actually really enjoy this race, plenty of buzz around it and live on telly. Course is a tough second half after a flying first half.. But last km is really quick if you have anything left...
All these Nationals in Dublin is a costly business for country cousins who have to travel..

Re elites, always a good few in it Korir World cross country champ is running in Mens .
Womens has Fionnuala B, will be up v Sophie Duarte , Helen Clitheroe, maybe Catherina Mckeirnan will have a good run. http://sportsnewsireland.com/olympics2016/european-cross-country-champion-confirmed-for-spar-great-ireland-run-next-sunday-2014-04-01/#

590 entered, 157 classed as Dublin

tunguska

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Isn't it unusual that this is the national 10k event, and it is probably the least spoken about race in the race calendar? Do club athletes no longer take this race seriously?

I was gonna say the same thing. Its not a popular race for whatever reasons(The Richard Nixon of road races) and that was even before they made it the national 10k.

RubyK wrote: »

Can anyone who knows the course, give me an idea where the hills are and how long they are? Always presumed the phoenix park was flat having running through it during DCM. Guess we only ran through the flat part

First 5k is fast enough but then you hit military hill which isnt the steepest climb in the world but for some reason seems incredibly hard at that point in the race. I dunno maybe its just me but I come to an almost standstill once I hit that climb. Then it kind of flattens out for a bit, you hit the S-bends which are deceptive because it feels like your climbing even though it might look flat. Then theres a downhll followed by another climb up the upper glen road which again is a tough hill. Then its down into the furry glen, turn left and.......another climb. This for me is the worst of the lot. The first part of this is short and sharp, which then turns into a gradual climb out of the glen, turn right and its up and down for a bit, then you hit the last km marker and by that stage you're a slobbering mess praying for the sweet embrace of death. The finish is one straight and long stretch, think theres markers every 200m which in theory is helpful but in reality is like the chinese water torcher. I do enjoy this race on some level but that second 5k is murder. They used to give 5k splits(I think they should bring that back) and I think the general trend was at least 60secs between the two......and that was if you were doing well.

krafty

I'm looking forward to this. It's my first 10K since I started running last year. I tried the route recently, and agree the first half is straightforward. Pace yourself on the climbs and you can finish quickly. The final 1km is flat and relatively sheltered.

tunguska wrote: »

military hill which isnt the steepest climb in the world but for some reason seems incredibly hard

If there's a westerly breeze, it's going to nail you here once you get out into the open after the trees at the bottom of the hill.

tunguska wrote: »

by that stage you're a slobbering mess praying for the sweet embrace of death.

Hopefully won't be me! :cool:

Fraggle00

I'm running it and I've been looking forward to it for ages but I've been having ITB trouble so I'm expecting a bit of a disaster. The course is similar to the Irish Runners 5 Mile with a few extra bits.
Running uphill seems to hurt less for whatever reason so hopefully I'll escape and manage a good race.

RayCun

Oh yes, forgot this one goes through the glen

Ol' Donie

I'll be doing it. Haven't done 10k at all this year, but i wouldn't want to miss this. Sort of an annual thing.

who_ru

RayCun wrote: »

Oh yes, forgot this one goes through the glen

The glen seems to me to be unnecessary really, why so many hills in such a short period? The could have skipped that part and extended the flat finish to make up the 10km.

event

Anyone who has done this in the past, what time would you need to be there for? I am coming up from Louth (will park in the q-park in usher quay then probably walk to the phoenix park). Im in the orange wave, so think that starts at 13:30, when should I be there for?

RayCun

Long queues for the toilets and you'll want to drop a bag, I'd aim for 1pm

RubyK

Thanks for the replies, I remember that lovely downhill out of the park in dcm and smiling at club mates who were out in support. Say il have a different face on me Sunday!

tunguska wrote: »

I was gonna say the same thing. Its not a popular race for whatever reasons(The Richard Nixon of road races) and that was even before they made it the national 10k.



First 5k is fast enough but then you hit military hill which isnt the steepest climb in the world but for some reason seems incredibly hard at that point in the race. I dunno maybe its just me but I come to an almost standstill once I hit that climb. Then it kind of flattens out for a bit, you hit the S-bends which are deceptive because it feels like your climbing even though it might look flat. Then theres a downhll followed by another climb up the upper glen road which again is a tough hill. Then its down into the furry glen, turn left and.......another climb. This for me is the worst of the lot. The first part of this is short and sharp, which then turns into a gradual climb out of the glen, turn right and its up and down for a bit, then you hit the last km marker and by that stage you're a slobbering mess praying for the sweet embrace of death. The finish is one straight and long stretch, think theres markers every 200m which in theory is helpful but in reality is like the chinese water torcher. I do enjoy this race on some level but that second 5k is murder. They used to give 5k splits(I think they should bring that back) and I think the general trend was at least 60secs between the two......and that was if you were doing well.

Jebas Tunguska, I should really have posted this question before I signed up ;-)
Thanks for the honest description tho. I'm only running this to try and find my racing mojo, haven't run a 10k since march 2011. Hope this one doesn't put me off for another 3 years :-)

colin32

doing this myself on sunday. was looking forward to it till you all mentioned the climb at 7-9km, i'd forgot about that (did the run 4 years ago)

weather's not to be great either, heard them say showers but hopefully the wind will be next to nothing

smashiner

Hi all,
I have signed up at the last minute,was going to skip it this year but after running it for the past 3 years,I like the challenge of the 7-9K bit, when the lungs are burning and the grass turns blue due to oxygen starvation! I am in the orange group too,aiming for sub 50 if possible, fingers crossed and a couple bottles of Lucozade Sport all will be well....

thewolf_ie

Do you think any of the 37-38 min runners will get picked up on the RTE Broadcast?

tunguska

thewolf_ie wrote: »

Do you think any of the 37-38 min runners will get picked up on the RTE Broadcast?

No I dont think so. I ran just under 33mins 2 yrs ago and there was a brief shot of me coming down the home stretch. And that was the last of what was shown from the first man across the line.

who_ru

Any tips on what to use to hydrate for a novice?

PVincent

Water ! For a race of this length and provided you are well hydrated during the morning , you don't need sports drinks or anything fancy. A sip of water halfway around will be more than enough, even if it is warm

event

Looking forward to this now. I am hoping for sub 45 but it'll be tough for me. IM in the orange group, was thinking of moving down the groups but reckon I'll stay where I am

denis160

Travelling up from 'the schticks' anyone know if there is on street parking near the phoenix park?
Thanks

who_ru

denis160 wrote: »

Travelling up from 'the schticks' anyone know if there is on street parking near the phoenix park?
Thanks

Not really, you could try to find a place to park in castleknock, there's a small car park across the road from Myo's pub, just next to a petrol station, but you'd want to get there early to nab a place. Other than that you're looking at multi story in the city, or CIE car park in Hueston station, about a 25 min walk to the start line from there.

vitani

denis160 wrote: »

Travelling up from 'the schticks' anyone know if there is on street parking near the phoenix park?
Thanks

Navan Road Parkway might be an option. It's on the Navan Road, within walking distance of the Phoenix Park. It's €4 to park there for the day, but you can only park by phone so would need card details with you.

denis160

Cool, will take a look at both.
Thanks.

RacoonQueen

There are a lot of bus lanes outside the walls of the park. Ones which do not operate on Sundays...

smashiner

Yep, the CIE car park in Heuston is handy. Lots of spaces, secure and only 20-25 mins walk to the start line (part of ur warm up!). More importantly, after the race it is a 'downhill walk' from the finish line for tired and sore limbs!;)

colin32

Weather isn't great today, hope the wind dies down a bit

denis160

Erred on the side of caution & drove to red cow & got luas from there. Presently on our way, eldest daughter running in junior run for 1st time so great excitement all round with her! Thanks for replies, will know for next year.

Name Changed

Are the results up yet? I'm surprised there isn't a thread about the run.

Shane O' Malley

Think the results are published tomorrow in the indo.

Nothing released until then.

who_ru

The weather held up pretty well overall. Thought it was a well organised event except for the part where we passed in front of St Mary's hospital. One of the stewards was letting cars through at the expense of runners who got held up! Crazy stuff.

I don't know about others but the number of times a runner in front of me would suddenly change course and run right in my line was unbelievable. Guess I have to put it down to the numbers running the race.

First time running 10k, the hills were tough enough in the latter stages, but got through it without stopping so I'm happy with that.

I will pencil in another one in the coming weeks.

pconn062

More awesome running by Catherina McKiernan, 2nd in the National championships.

colin32

Disaster of a run for me

Went to bed last night looking to do 50 minutes or less, little did I know my 6 month boy was going to have me up from 3.30am being sick

Got round the easier first 5km rather well but then when the hills started, no energy or strength in the legs to push up the hills

Finished in a struggling 57 minutes. Just happy to finish it in the end

Was well organised as you'd expect. One thing though is the app on my phone had the km markers before all the ones set out. Clocked at 10.3km in the end

dj08

My Garmin clocked the course at 6.28 miles at the finish line

Shane O' Malley

I think many people found that but in this case it does not really matter. It is never a PB course and rather a challenge on pacing and grit.

hawkwing

Numbers seems to be way down on the last few years,very little traffic in what was a very packed race for a few years.I think the indo results thing is costing them more than it is worth,together with so many other races etc etc.Enjoyable day though and good to have a first race since DCM 13.

smashiner

Yep,
I agree with Shane that it is more of a 'challenge' than a PB course, I really enjoyed the race and managed a sub 50 (40 secs under), which I was delighted with as I missed sub 40 (by 15 secs) in the Raheny 5 mile earlier in the year!
The 4K walk/hobble back to Heuston Station was the hardest part of the day mind! Gonna take to the pool and try a Triathlon next......:eek:

who_ru

so you have to buy the independent to get your result?

smmoore79

Results in Indo are in alphabetical order, so basically just a list of finishing times and not actual results/placing!!

ciaran76

This was my first race and have to say I really enjoyed it.

The weather was great and maybe the long sleeves were a bad idea but no matter I just wanted to finish without stopping. I was always a casual 5km runner never really took notice of my times just jogged to keep fit.
In Feb. someone said I should do 10km as I may be bored with 5km and so I started training for it at the end of Feb.

I don't know how but I took a minute off my PB so that means I must not really push myself when training.

I am now thinking I want to go for a further distance! I think I may have caught the bug.

emerald007

http://www.greatirelandrun.org/results/Default.aspx Sorry 2013 results!