fert spreaders

TheSunderz

Considering purchasing a new fert spreader. Narrowed my choice down to a bogballe L1 plus and a Rauch 17.1 spreader both 1100 ltr capacity. Both similar spec as regards covers, risers etc. Just wondering your thoughts on these spreaders, any drawbacks with either machine. Bogballe is coming in slighter cheaper.

KCKCKC

Hi, Need to buy a new fertiliser spreader, old amazone one on its way out.

Looking for slightly over a tonne unit. Priced a Rauch & Amazone coming in round 5k.

Also priced an Agrex spreader coming in at 2650.

Just wondering has anyone got an Agrex & wat they tink of them?

Cant believe spreaders are so dear!!

Any advice would be appreciated.

sucklerlover

I've a bogballe. Has a nasty habit of breaking the pins on the shaft. I've to open ten bolts tap out the pins and fix.dont no bout the new bogballe.
What about the carvello ones on done deal.stainless steel it seems a no brainer r are they a cheap knock off.

Nekarsulm

Kuhn/Rauch.
No need to look any further.

FarmerDougal

Bogballe l1 plus, simple to calibrate and very accurate spread pattern.

howdee

Had a bogballe here the last 15 years and never had to put a spanner to it, traded it for an l2 plus this year that will carry two ton with extensions. What I like about the bogballe is the simplicity of it , one setting and your done.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Said i'd join the Bogballe appreciation thread:)

I have an L1 with 3 years, super little machine. Easy to set up and the headland setup is simple, just turn a yellow head between the bins to turn on and off the headland setting. Just a pity there isn't a hydraulic option for it though.

The one down side i found was the plastic inserts on the two back corners are very weak and easily knocked into the spreader by cattle. Simply fixed with some adhesive though.

FarmerDougal

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Said i'd join the Bogballe appreciation thread:)

I have an L1 with 3 years, super little machine. Easy to set up and the headland setup is simple, just turn a yellow head between the bins to turn on and off the headland setting. Just a pity there isn't a hydraulic option for it though.

The one down side i found was the plastic inserts on the two back corners are very weak and easily knocked into the spreader by cattle. Simply fixed with some adhesive though.

No hyd option incase headland engaged when PTO running?

FarmerDougal

Bogballe have lowest CV value

One downside is its very tight to tractor when hooking on..thats even with extensions

KCKCKC

Thanks for the replies guys.

Just wondering has anyone got an Agrex or are they new on the market?

Only farming about 100 acres so hard to justify the 5k price tag of the more popular brands. Dont want to go second hand (auld boy doesnt like second hand gear).

Is there a good cheaper option or do you get wat u pay for?

Zr105

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Said i'd join the Bogballe appreciation thread:)

I have an L1 with 3 years, super little machine. Easy to set up and the headland setup is simple, just turn a yellow head between the bins to turn on and off the headland setting. Just a pity there isn't a hydraulic option for it though.

The one down side i found was the plastic inserts on the two back corners are very weak and easily knocked into the spreader by cattle. Simply fixed with some adhesive though.

Is there not a cable option on them for the headland? It some sorta lever cable set up that you put into the cab, I'd guess it's a better option than hyd because as mentioned above would be pretty easy to accidentally knock it in with the pto running, and also it would require an extra spool

FarmerDougal

KCKCKC wrote: »

Thanks for the replies guys.

Just wondering has anyone got an Agrex or are they new on the market?

Only farming about 100 acres so hard to justify the 5k price tag of the more popular brands. Dont want to go second hand (auld boy doesnt like second hand gear).

Is there a good cheaper option or do you get wat u pay for?

Vicon

Milked out

Have a rauch here, not sure what model with twin disc but it's 12 years plus old holds 1 tonne, could prob throw In 1.5 if on flat smooth fields. It's grand no bother with it bar the last year or so it's stiff changing the settings on it. But it's done ourselves and neighbour and we.d both be spreading max allowed with nitrates so it.s gone thru a fair few tonne of fert.

Timmaay

New vicon 3600ish, abbey 2900, cosmo 2300, all hold a ton and with hyd shut off. I was close on getting the comso here, but a clean 3yr old abbey showed up for 1600.

Greengrass1

I'll never go back to a wag tail. Twin dis all the way.
12 yr old amazone here. Very happy with it tends to spread at 14m thiugh instead of 12. Not that big of a deal really when it's in grassland

Dunedin

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'll never go back to a wag tail. Twin dis all the way.
12 yr old amazone here. Very happy with it tends to spread at 14m thiugh instead of 12. Not that big of a deal really when it's in grassland

what's the issue with the Wag tail over the twin disk - is it just distance??

Nekarsulm

The "wobble" action necessary for a wagtails operation, is hard on bearings etc. They are inherently unbalanced in their operation.
Twin disc a smoother device and a wider spread.

farmerjj

Would there be less maintenance in a disc spinner so over a wag tail?

Nekarsulm

farmerjj wrote: »

Would there be less maintenance in a disc spinner so over a wag tail?

Have a Kuhn ZSB here for 15 years, and it wasn't new when I got it. Only now needs bearings
Two years ago renewed the vanes on the disks.
Nothing else ever. .

Zr105

farmerjj wrote: »

Would there be less maintenance in a disc spinner so over a wag tail?

The amazone here is in its 3rd season, could be 250t or more gone through it and other than a very odd shot of grease on the shaft, and properly washed out after most uses and hasn't needed to be looked at yet! The veins are starting to get signs of wear alright but there's still a lot to go before they wear through!

FarmerDougal

Dunedin wrote: »

what's the issue with the Wag tail over the twin disk - is it just distance??

Wagtail are grand for small amounts. Had vicon for over 20yrs but is fooked now, frame, cone, bearing etc. Disc spreaders are more accurate and savings can be made if spreading substancial quantities

Brown Podzol

I have a vicon, about 70/80 ton a year and have it about 20 years. A new spout every two years and bearings every three years €70. Can't remember the price of the spout. This replaced a twin disc amazon the problem with which was the amount of fert that ended on the tractor and the odd grain in my eye when looking behind me. Probably not a problem with the modern disc spreaders.

lefthooker

Brown Podzol wrote: »

I have a vicon, about 70/80 ton a year and have it about 20 years. A new spout every two years and bearings every three years €70. Can't remember the price of the spout. This replaced a twin disc amazon the problem with which was the amount of fert that ended on the tractor and the odd grain in my eye when looking behind me. Probably not a problem with the modern disc spreaders.

You have the exact same vicon for the last 20 years. But you've maintained it well. Only 10 new spouts and 7 sets of bearings. Is that you Trigger? Say hi to Dave for me:D

IH784man

Is a metal bin better than a plastic bin in a fertiliser spreader?

bogman_bass

as long as you wash it out there isn't much differ. The metal one would handle knocks better

Jb1989

lefthooker wrote: »

You have the exact same vicon for the last 20 years. But you've maintained it well. Only 10 new spouts and 7 sets of bearings. Is that you Trigger? Say hi to Dave for me:D

Browns spreader http://youtu.be/BUl6PooveJE

lefthooker

We have a saying that's been passed down by generations of wagtailers;
Look after your Vicon.....

Jb1989

lefthooker wrote: »

We have a saying that's been passed down by generations of wagtailers;
Look after your Vicon.....

Brown Podzol

lefthooker wrote: »

We have a saying that's been passed down by generations of wagtailers;
Look after your Vicon.....

Delighted your knocking so much fun out of it but bearings and the spout are wearing parts much the same as metal on a plough. One of the main reasons I persist with the vicon is the fact that it is so light and therefore very easy to attach and detach from the tractor, important if you are switching regularly switching between implements.

lefthooker

Awright calm down Rodders- Chateauneuf du Pape!!!!

Seriously tho, my own Vicon is surely 25 years old, I can remember changing the spout and the bearings twice and my dad probably did the same. A few pumps of grease every time she's used and a few spots of weld and lick of primer and paint every now and then keep her going. I've a fairly new 2T sulky for the silage and corn for when I want to cover acres but I prefer the wagger for paddocks and grazing. I can throw half a ton in and spread a paddock or two and leave 3or4 cwt in her for a few days without worry. I'd never do that with the Sulky

Green farmer

Bought a new wagtail recently. Really happy with it. Simple to use. Also comes in handy for spreading grass seed.

IH784man

lefthooker wrote: »

We have a saying that's been passed down by generations of wagtailers;
Look after your Vicon.....

Mum on her death bed she said to me,Del Boy,let Rodney use the wagtail.

Tail painter

I had a Bogballe for a couple of years. Very easy to set and accurate. The headland setting, while simple, means getting out to change the lever for every paddock unless you go for the €600 cable option. The rate setting was on the front, which meant squeezing in behind tractor with dirty wheels. I switched to an Amazone, which I find simpler for paddocks. For headlands, just drive close to the border with one disc open. Rate settings at the back too. Settings are very simple with all settings on the phone app.

Dunedin

Green farmer wrote: »

Bought a new wagtail recently. Really happy with it. Simple to use. Also comes in handy for spreading grass seed.

Do you me asking what you paid for it.

What does she hold

Green farmer

I paid 2k straight for a new abbey wagtail without hydraulic. Holds about 700kg. Should last me a lifetime. A friend has the same machine for the last 15 years without any issues. I'd only spread a few tonnes a year but enables me to go out little and often.

Jb1989

IH784man wrote: »

Mum on her death bed she said to me,Del Boy,let Rodney use the wagtail.

You wolly!!!