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Reserve Defence Forces Recruitment 2015 **Update!**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mike923


    Hello,

    I had my medical on the 9th of February and have not received any correspondence since. Does that mean I haven't made the cut? My friend received an email saying he was unsuccessful about a week ago.

    Kind regards,
    Michael

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    Dear Michael,

    The medical results can take some time to be processed. Candidates will be updated as soon as the information is available.

    Thank you for your query.

    Naval Service Recruitment Office

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    I also sent another email to the NSR branch and they said at this stage it means we've more than likely passes everything and are just waiting on a few factors like budget and numbers before getting back to us. As I said before a buddy of mine has already been contacted saying he was unsuccessful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    I've recently started training in the RDF and am taking an EMT course now also. Can anyone here who's an EMT/medic in the RDF - or who otherwise knows a bit about same - provide any information/opinions on the following? (I'm thinking of applying to become one as/when I start my continuation training).

    1. With the re-org of both the RDF and the Medical Corps more specifically, how are medics assigned to units? i.e. I'll be training in Cathal Brugha and would like to end up being based here if possible - does this ever happen or are all Dublin-based medics located at St. Bricin's unless attached to a unit only for specific trainings/events?

    2. If I do become a medic, I'll most likely be relying on this to make up my CPC patient contacts - won't have time to join another voluntary org for this purpose because I work and have a family also. Is this feasible or do medics not see much patient contacts in the RDF? (I really want to make use of the EMT training).

    3. Do medics still get to take part in most basic types of training such as range practice (other than just once yearly), tactical and weapons training, etc - or do they end up focused purely on the medical duties? I ask because the aforementioned training was one of the main reasons I joined the RDF in the first place.

    4. Any other opinions/suggestions/experiences RDF medics here might share in helping me to make this decision?

    Thanks for any input anyone can provide.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Have you gotten confirmation that your civilian EMT qualification will be recognised by the Army? There are a tonne of guys in the DF who completed very expensive EMT training in civvy street to be basically told by the Army/NS/AC that their quallfication is not worth the paper its written on as far as the army is concerned. Thats how thing currently stand in the PDF so id imagine its the same for you guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    John_D80 wrote: »
    Have you gotten confirmation that your civilian EMT qualification will be recognised by the Army? There are a tonne of guys in the DF who completed very expensive EMT training in civvy street to be basically told by the Army/NS/AC that their quallfication is not worth the paper its written on as far as the army is concerned. Thats how thing currently stand in the PDF so id imagine its the same for you guys.

    Hey John, thanks for the response.

    No, I haven't anything in writing - indeed, as I've just recently begun training, it's not something I've looked into officially yet. For what it's worth (which may be very little) I had been told by a number of people - some of whom would be involved in training on both my EMT course as well as at the DF Medical School - that only EMTs (and upwards) have any chance these days of being accepted as medics. Of course, that doesn't guarantee anything. But it also gives the impression on the website of the Irish Society of Military Medicine that people with existing EMT/Paramedic/AP quals might be accepted. So nothing's for certain.

    If it comes to it, I'll find another way of using the EMT training if I must. Maybe through the Irish Red Cross as I already do some other work for them.

    *If* I was eligible to become a medic and did so, do you have any views on some of those other questions I asked, by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭Doctor14


    EGOSHEA wrote: »
    3. Do medics still get to take part in most basic types of training such as range practice (other than just once yearly), tactical and weapons training, etc - or do they end up focused purely on the medical duties? I ask because the aforementioned training was one of the main reasons I joined the RDF in the first place.

    My understanding is that RDF Medics do NOT do any shooting or tactical training other than their recruit & 2-3* training. No shooting at all. The tactical training consists of operating as a medic in the tactical environment - ie, not much. Simulated casualties are about as far as it goes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    Doctor14 wrote: »
    My understanding is that RDF Medics do NOT do any shooting or tactical training other than their recruit & 2-3* training. No shooting at all. The tactical training consists of operating as a medic in the tactical environment - ie, not much. Simulated casualties are about as far as it goes.

    Thanks for that, Doctor14. Definitely worth me considering this given some of my interests. Looks like RDF and Red Cross at the same time may be on the horizon. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭sjb25


    EGOSHEA wrote: »
    I've recently started training in the RDF and am taking an EMT course now also. Can anyone here who's an EMT/medic in the RDF - or who otherwise knows a bit about same - provide any information/opinions on the following? (I'm thinking of applying to become one as/when I start my continuation training).

    1. With the re-org of both the RDF and the Medical Corps more specifically, how are medics assigned to units? i.e. I'll be training in Cathal Brugha and would like to end up being based here if possible - does this ever happen or are all Dublin-based medics located at St. Bricin's unless attached to a unit only for specific trainings/events?

    2. If I do become a medic, I'll most likely be relying on this to make up my CPC patient contacts - won't have time to join another voluntary org for this purpose because I work and have a family also. Is this feasible or do medics not see much patient contacts in the RDF? (I really want to make use of the EMT training).

    3. Do medics still get to take part in most basic types of training such as range practice (other than just once yearly), tactical and weapons training, etc - or do they end up focused purely on the medical duties? I ask because the aforementioned training was one of the main reasons I joined the RDF in the first place.

    4. Any other opinions/suggestions/experiences RDF medics here might share in helping me to make this decision?

    Thanks for any input anyone can provide.

    I can't answer a lot of you're questions but bit of info I have is the PDF have been putting a lot of money into training the last two or 3 National ambulance service student paramedic classes have had defences forces members on them so they are training there medics as phecc paramedics they did have EMTs so them guys I think now are the ones going for paramedic training but I'm sure you're EMT will help when applying

    Also I'm sure army medics and garda ERU would be doing what's known as EMT BTEC see here http://www.phecit.ie/PHECC/Publications_and_Resources/Newsletters/Newsletter_Itmes/Winter_2014/Introducing_PHECC_BTEC_courses.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭janet1989


    Have my attestation next week. Is there a dress code for this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Chonghaile85


    still waiting for mine :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭janet1989


    still waiting for mine :(
    Mine is in Galway. I was told that we are the first batch to be sworn in. The other batch will get an email next week, that's if your in Galway


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Chonghaile85


    Good stuff. In Dublin meself, just have to wait out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    Good stuff. In Dublin meself, just have to wait out.

    I'm Dublin too, there's already been a platoon taken in, I had all sorts of hassle with bloods, but hopefully it's sorted and well be taken in very soon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    gg1305 wrote: »
    I'm Dublin too, there's already been a platoon taken in, I had all sorts of hassle with bloods, but hopefully it's sorted and well be taken in very soon!

    Jesus, lads - I hope they take ye both in soon. We're starting to do foot drill at the moment and handing in our sizes for uniform next week - breaking into sections next week also.

    Ye've probably done this already but get on to 7th Btn about this if you can - we had a few more guys sworn in a week or two after the main group (myself included) were sworn in. All the best with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    janet1989 wrote: »
    Have my attestation next week. Is there a dress code for this?

    No dress code, Janet. Most people on my night showed up in jeans or even tracksuits (I'd go with jeans/trousers myself).

    They even (good-naturedly) took the piss out of a fella who showed up in a full suit on the night. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    EGOSHEA wrote: »
    Jesus, lads - I hope they take ye both in soon. We're starting to do foot drill at the moment and handing in our sizes for uniform next week - breaking into sections next week also.

    Ye've probably done this already but get on to 7th Btn about this if you can - we had a few more guys sworn in a week or two after the main group (myself included) were sworn in. All the best with it.

    Yeah I've been hassling them again about my medical results, was told it would be sorted at the end of last week but here I still am!

    At this rate I'll be a resident in haulbowline before I get near the RDF!!
    Hoping for a this to be sorted though I could do with learning foot drill!! Haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    gg1305 wrote: »
    Yeah I've been hassling them again about my medical results, was told it would be sorted at the end of last week but here I still am!

    At this rate I'll be a resident in haulbowline before I get near the RDF!!
    Hoping for a this to be sorted though I could do with learning foot drill!! Haha

    On the face of it, foot drill looks easy as f*ck. But when you actually start trying to do it in unison with everyone else and with the orders being barked at short notice, you end up feeling like a clutz! (I do, anyway). Very satisfying to start getting it right, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Looking forward to welcoming the Galway lads. Our 2-3 star camp will be on at the same time/place as your recruit training in Kilworth apparently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mike923


    janet1989 wrote: »
    Have my attestation next week. Is there a dress code for this?

    Is this for the NSR?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mike923


    gg1305 wrote: »
    Yeah I've been hassling them again about my medical results, was told it would be sorted at the end of last week but here I still am!

    At this rate I'll be a resident in haulbowline before I get near the RDF!!
    Hoping for a this to be sorted though I could do with learning foot drill!! Haha

    Same boat as yourself by the sounds of it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    Finally got my attestation notice for Wednesday night, thank God that waiting is over!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mike923


    gg1305 wrote: »
    Finally got my attestation notice for Wednesday night, thank God that waiting is over!

    Were you army or navy?


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    mike923 wrote: »
    Were you army or navy?

    Army man, sorry my last post was a bit confusing, I've applied for the permanent naval service as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mike923


    gg1305 wrote: »
    Army man, sorry my last post was a bit confusing, I've applied for the permanent naval service as well

    Great stuff, well done :)

    Think I'll just have to wait it out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    mike923 wrote: »
    Great stuff, well done :)

    Think I'll just have to wait it out!

    Thanks man, hopefully the NSR get a move on!
    Have you tried contacting their manpower dept??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    gg1305 wrote: »
    Finally got my attestation notice for Wednesday night, thank God that waiting is over!

    Well done - good luck with it. Which county are you in?


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    EGOSHEA wrote: »
    Well done - good luck with it. Which county are you in?

    I'm Dublin,
    CBB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


    gg1305 wrote: »
    I'm Dublin,
    CBB

    Good stuff. I'll probably see you tomorrow evening when you show up for attestation.

    They may not have mentioned this to you yet but they want our sizes for uniform tomorrow. In case they ask for yours too (don't see why they wouldn't), have the following sizes written on a piece of paper along with your name ('Recruit [second name], [first name]'):

    Trousers (waist and inside leg)
    Shirt size
    T-shirt size
    Shoe size

    All the best, buddy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭gg1305


    EGOSHEA wrote: »
    Good stuff. I'll probably see you tomorrow evening when you show up for attestation.

    They may not have mentioned this to you yet but they want our sizes for uniform tomorrow. In case they ask for yours too (don't see why they wouldn't), have the following sizes written on a piece of paper along with your name ('Recruit [second name], [first name]'):

    Trousers (waist and inside leg)
    Shirt size
    T-shirt size
    Shoe size

    All the best, buddy.

    Thanks man yeah you should see me there, I'll bring the info with me just to be safe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Gun_money


    Question I'd ask is do you want medical training or want to apply your training and use external source to keep your skills up to date?

    If it is medical training then a medical unit is suitable.

    If you want to put into practice then an Inf/Eng/Cav unit might suit. They spend more time on the ground, drills etc etc so more likely to get injured. That is not to say CIS, NSRor BAR don't all good units as well, but pick an active unit to suit your needs.

    To get your EMT qualification accepted by the DF you have to submit your actual cert, not a photocopy.

    You will have more hands on, rather than just covering for camp and exercises.

    You will still have to do normal training Rec/2* and along with your own gear more than likely have to carry the Pl First Aid bag also.

    ESTI do a combat medic training.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


      Doctor14 wrote: »
      My understanding is that RDF Medics do NOT do any shooting or tactical training other than their recruit & 2-3* training. No shooting at all. The tactical training consists of operating as a medic in the tactical environment - ie, not much. Simulated casualties are about as far as it goes.

      Yup. I was in the RDF a few years ago and the only time I fired a rifle was on recruit camp (not even on 2-3*). It was boring as hell to be honest.
      I left and rejoined as infantry and have fire multiple times since rejoining. I dunno if they've changed it for medics but it was fairly dull. Even if you're not a medic, you can still do the first aid course (which operated as the 2-3* when I was in it)

      If you're an EMT outside of the RDF, I'd imagine you'd be very popular in your unit, especially if you're not a medic.


    1. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


      Lockstep wrote: »

        Yup. I was in the RDF a few years ago and the only time I fired a rifle was on recruit camp (not even on 2-3*). It was boring as hell to be honest.
        I left and rejoined as infantry and have fire multiple times since rejoining. I dunno if they've changed it for medics but it was fairly dull. Even if you're not a medic, you can still do the first aid course (which operated as the 2-3* when I was in it)

        If you're an EMT outside of the RDF, I'd imagine you'd be very popular in your unit, especially if you're not a medic.

        Yeah, I remember you giving me some advice on that before, thanks. Thinking I won't be going down the medic route, then - sure one of the reasons I was joining was to get some experience of shooting, weapons training, tactics, etc.


      1. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


        Gun_money wrote: »
        Question I'd ask is do you want medical training or want to apply your training and use external source to keep your skills up to date?

        If it is medical training then a medical unit is suitable.

        If you want to put into practice then an Inf/Eng/Cav unit might suit. They spend more time on the ground, drills etc etc so more likely to get injured. That is not to say CIS, NSRor BAR don't all good units as well, but pick an active unit to suit your needs.

        To get your EMT qualification accepted by the DF you have to submit your actual cert, not a photocopy.

        You will have more hands on, rather than just covering for camp and exercises.

        You will still have to do normal training Rec/2* and along with your own gear more than likely have to carry the Pl First Aid bag also.

        ESTI do a combat medic training.

        Thanks, Gun Money. Once I've the EMT done, I can't go much further with training through the DF (other than B-TEC through ESTI, like you say).

        So are you saying that if I join, say, Cav (which I had been thinking of), then I might end up being able to carry first aid bag, use some of the EMT skills and knowledge, but still be part of a weapons training corps such as Cav is? That sounds the business, then.

        I'll keep my CPC for the EMT registration going with Red Cross, I'd say, and get the head down in an infantry or Cav unit. Sounds good and thanks again.


      2. Registered Users Posts: 1 Jduff


        Recently passed the medical for the RDF back in February, still have no word on attestation date, iv been told I'm awaiting security clearance, but surly it can't take that long, supposedly the 2 week camp in June, doesn't leave much time to organise time off work!


      3. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭Doctor14


        EGOSHEA wrote: »
        So are you saying that if I join, say, Cav (which I had been thinking of), then I might end up being able to carry first aid bag, use some of the EMT skills and knowledge, but still be part of a weapons training corps such as Cav is? That sounds the business, then.

        In my experience, no.

        If you are not an army certified medic, then you will not be allowed do anything medical beyond the basic first aid that everyone does. Makes not difference what your civvy qualifications are. The Army Medical Corps are very territorial and don't like qualifying anyone outside their own Corps in anything.

        It is likely you will not get any recognition of your civvy quals UNLESS you are in the Medics. And without that recognition, they will not even allow you to even apply a plaster without supervision.


      4. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


        Doctor14 wrote: »
        In my experience, no.

        If you are not an army certified medic, then you will not be allowed do anything medical beyond the basic first aid that everyone does. Makes not difference what your civvy qualifications are. The Army Medical Corps are very territorial and don't like qualifying anyone outside their own Corps in anything.

        It is likely you will not get any recognition of your civvy quals UNLESS you are in the Medics. And without that recognition, they will not even allow you to even apply a plaster without supervision.

        Hmm...they're really making the best of the RDF, I see. ;)

        I'll just apply for something else and work my medic stuff elsewhere.


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      6. Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


        EGOSHEA wrote: »
        Hmm...they're really making the best of the RDF, I see. ;)

        I'll just apply for something else and work my medic stuff elsewhere.

        I would not take it personally (I have 12 years served in mountain rescue but its of no interest to the pdf). I used to serve with another RDF infantry nco who was an intensive care nurse in the outside world and who would have been in the same boat recognition-wise.

        It is not just an issue with medical/first aid skills but with most skills.

        Historically, the defence forces have studiously ignored the civilian skills of reservists.

        I suspect that its because, if some of them were forced to acknowledge what they were sitting on, then they would find it fundamentally threatening at a personal level. A proportion of the PDF seem to get some kind of personal validation from being able to "look down" on the RDF. Removing that by recognising various RDF skillsets might put some of them in an uncomfortable place.

        Says more about them than about the RDF.


      7. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭davetherave


        For what it is worth and to agree with what Doc14 has said, before the 2012/13 re-org, we had a number of Dublin Fire Brigade Pers in our [Infantry]company and they couldn't do as much as put a plaster on us because despite being the people that show up when you call 999 (or 112 if you are so inclined) they hadn't learned how to put plasters on the way the Defences Forces want to put plasters on so it'd certainly be worth getting checked out before you set your sights on anything.


      8. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


        I would not take it personally (I have 12 years served in mountain rescue but its of no interest to the pdf). I used to serve with another RDF infantry nco who was an intensive care nurse in the outside world and who would have been in the same boat recognition-wise.

        It is not just an issue with medical/first aid skills but with most skills.

        Historically, the defence forces have studiously ignored the civilian skills of reservists.

        I suspect that its because, if some of them were forced to acknowledge what they were sitting on, then they would find it fundamentally threatening at a personal level. A proportion of the PDF seem to get some kind of personal validation from being able to "look down" on the RDF. Removing that by recognising various RDF skillsets might put some of them in an uncomfortable place.

        Says more about them than about the RDF.

        I agree completely - and I certainly don't take it personally.

        I also offered my services (free of charge) previously in relation to a civilian profession in which I'm involved. Those I spoke with seemed personally interested but, organisationally, the idea just petered out in the end.

        Though I've no intention whatsoever of 'jumping ship' from the RDF now that I'm in, I couldn't help but be interested recently from some inquiries I made with the RAF. I'd never known that an Irish national could not only apply to join immediately (without waiting the usual non-UK/-Irish 5 years of UK residency) - but said Irish national can also serve as a reservist in the RAF whilst still living in the Rep. of Ireland. Got me thinking - perhaps in addition to the RDF as I have travelled to Belfast and the UK quite regularly over the past few years also. Without getting too Walt about the whole thing, the prospect of serving as both an RDF private as well as RAF medic (with a possible tour also after the first year) holds serious appeal to me.


      9. Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭danube


        I just recently got attested for the RDF. We were told that the 2 week camp will be in July. Can anyone give me some info on this and what it exactly entails so I can start to prepare?


      10. Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭danube


        I was in the first 12 out of 56 people to get security clearance last week. The other are still waiting. You should hear within the next two week so I am told.


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      12. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


        danube wrote: »
        I just recently got attested for the RDF. We were told that the 2 week camp will be in July. Can anyone give me some info on this and what it exactly entails so I can start to prepare?

        Final two weeks in July to be blocked off by us.

        Advice to us was to work on fitness (more of whatever you did for the intake fitness test). I think there are some other forums/threads in 'Military' which provide more detailed advice on fitness, etc. Other than that, we're just going to attend and do our best at weekly parade - also, try and get out on as many trainings days/weekends as possible before FTT.


      13. Registered Users Posts: 1 Mk_96


        Hi all,

        Im 18 years old and was thinking about joining the RDF.
        Im currently living in Dublin but i will be moving to Galway next year for college and have a couple of questions about joining the RDF.

        Is there an RDF unit based in Galway city?

        What is the commitment like (days per week) ?

        Is it paying or voluntary?

        What do you do in Training?

        Any and all info would be appreciated
        Thanks


      14. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


        Mk_96 wrote: »
        Hi all,

        Im 18 years old and was thinking about joining the RDF.
        Im currently living in Dublin but i will be moving to Galway next year for college and have a couple of questions about joining the RDF.

        Is there an RDF unit based in Galway city?

        What is the commitment like (days per week) ?

        Is it paying or voluntary?

        What do you do in Training?

        Any and all info would be appreciated
        Thanks

        There is a unit based out of Galway.

        You train one evening per week (2.5 hours). You'll also train over about seven weekends each year (and you can put yourself forward for more training if you like). There's a full-time training (FTT) camp over two weeks (residential) each Summer.

        You're not paid for weekly parade but you are for some of the other training (including the FTT).

        You can find this - and info about what training involves - on the Reserve page of the official website: www.military.ie Check it out.

        All the best with it.


      15. Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭danube


        Does anyone know if Reserves are allowed to stay overnight in the barracks after evening training nights? I live 15 miles from my barracks and there is no bus service after 6:00pm. Taxi is going to cost a fortune.


      16. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭davetherave


        danube wrote: »
        Does anyone know if Reserves are allowed to stay overnight in the barracks after evening training nights? I live 15 miles from my barracks and there is no bus service after 6:00pm. Taxi is going to cost a fortune.

        Nope, you are on your own after week night training. There is no accommodation provided unless you are on full time training. Have you asked around if anyone is driving the same direction, and do you not think that it might have been something important to checkout before you joined?


      17. Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭danube


        What happens if we have to miss a day or two during those two weeks to attend something else?


      18. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


        danube wrote: »
        I just recently got attested for the RDF. We were told that the 2 week camp will be in July. Can anyone give me some info on this and what it exactly entails so I can start to prepare?

        You'll do a lot of foot drill, learning about the Steyr and then the fun stuff like tactics and shooting at the end.

        You can get time off for important events (like a funeral or something) but they're very strict on this so they don't care about stuff like getting Leaving Cert results.


      19. Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭danube


        Was told today that by our battalion commander that we are to be issued with black berets instead of green ones next week when we get out kit. He said its to do with the PDF/RDF integration program.


      20. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭EGOSHEA


        danube wrote: »
        Was told today that by our battalion commander that we are to be issued with black berets instead of green ones next week when we get out kit. He said its to do with the PDF/RDF integration program.

        Yeah, that was announced a few months back alright.

        Having recently joined up myself, we'll be getting the black ones as soon as we (eventually!) get our first set of kit. Basically, there will be no (visible, in terms of uniform) differences between the RDF and PDF here on out.


      21. Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


        EGOSHEA wrote: »
        Basically, there will be no (visible, in terms of uniform) differences between the RDF and PDF here on out.

        With exception to the dress uniform. I believe there will be a shoulder patch with "Cultaca" on it.


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