Austrians to decide if Anschluss will be undone

losthorizon

Now I think its perfectly OK for elections but for this big a question? And are English people being allowed to vote? Surely that's not right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sQyNyMzN5E

The Backwards Man

Cliff notes version?

Can't watch youtube clips whilst driving, it's not safe.

dxhound2005

Where did she get the "general population of four million" from?

FunLover18

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Cliff notes version?

Can't watch youtube clips whilst driving, it's not safe.

Should EU citizens living in Scotland be allowed to vote in the Scottish Independence referendum?

Yes. If they're they're residents then they may have been living their for years are intend on living there due to work or personal reasons. I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed have a say in the countries future, they live there, the country's political situation will affect them.

losthorizon

FunLover18 wrote: »

Should EU citizens living in Scotland be allowed to vote in the Scottish Independence referendum?

Yes. If they're they're residents then they may have been living their for years are intend on living there due to work or personal reasons. I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed have a say in the countries future, they live there, the country's political situation will affect them.

In the report it says most of them are students though. Many will leave after finishing college I presume. Some may be doing just a post grad course.

Donkey Oaty

losthorizon wrote: »

And are English people being allowed to vote?

The ones that live in Scotland can.

My name is URL

I don't think it'd make much of a difference to the result, but yes.. imo, and considering the nature of the referendum, if English residents in Scotland are allowed to vote then so too should other EU residents of Scotland.

MadsL

Haven't watch the vid, but I assume this is the independent campaign clutching at straws.

Smiles35

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Where did she get the "general population of four million" from?

General population of Scotland? I was convinced they had over 20mil there!

FunLover18

losthorizon wrote: »

In the report it says most of them are students though. Many will leave after finishing college I presume. Some may be doing just a post grad course.

I see your point but where do you draw the line and how do you enforce it? As far as I know you have to have been resident for a certain amount of time, a year is it? The votes are anonymous anyway so say it didn't pass, it would be impossible to say it was because a bunch of foreigners who didn't understand the situation were allowed to vote.

I don't really have a problem with it anyway.

Fratton Fred

losthorizon wrote: »

are English people being allowed to vote?

If they gave England the vote, the Scots would have their independence.

losthorizon

FunLover18 wrote: »

I see your point but where do you draw the line and how do you enforce it? As far as I know you have to have been resident for a certain amount of time, a year is it? The votes are anonymous anyway so say it didn't pass, it would be impossible to say it was because a bunch of foreigners who didn't understand the situation were allowed to vote.

I don't really have a problem with it anyway.

TBH I dont have any opinion on whether the scots should become independent or not. But, its the most important question they have been asked in hundreds of years. If the referendum is lost or won by a small margin the outcome wont have been decided by Scots at all.

I am in favour of granting votes to EU citizens in elections but probably not in referendums.

FunLover18

losthorizon wrote: »

TBH I dont have any opinion on whether the scots should become independent or not. But, its the most important question they have been asked in hundreds of years. If the referendum is lost or won by a small margin the outcome wont have been decided by Scots at all.

I am in favour of granting votes to EU citizens in elections but probably not in referendums.

Again though what about those who aren't college students and are actually full time residents/emigrants?

Presumably you still have to be registered to vote; I'd imagine the number of EU students who are only over there for a year who bothered to register to vote is pretty small.

dxhound2005

A far more significant consideration is the number of Scots who will not be able to vote because they do not currently live there. And whatever about the number of EU and Commonwealth people living in Scotland, which is surely understated in a very poor piece of journalism, it is dwarfed by the numbers from other UK countries.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20048521

When the referendum on Scottish independence is held in the autumn of 2014, only residents of Scotland will be eligible to vote.

As a result, almost 400,000 people living north of the border but born in other parts of the UK will get to take part, while 800,000 Scots living in England, Northern Ireland and Wales will not.

"Given that Scotland has a population of just five million, 800,000 is a huge number," says David McCrone, professor of sociology at the University of Edinburgh.

Donkey Oaty

Fratton Fred wrote: »

If they gave England the vote, the Scots would have their independence.

Quiet there, please, up in the cheap seats.

Fratton Fred

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Quiet there, please, up in the cheap seats.

England will do anything to get rid of George "shall I be the cat" Galloway.

Manach

Just wait till the local Russian community forms self-defence Militias and invites in Putin's forces to liberate them - the referendum then will be 95% for independence.

Manach

Just wait till the local Russian community forms self-defence Militias and invites in Putin's forces to liberate them - the referendum then will be 95% for independence.

Banjo String

Bloody Austrians.

They should just bloody stick to throwing bloody shrimps on the Barbie tbh.

Fratton Fred

Manach wrote: »

Just wait till the local Russian community forms self-defence Militias and invites in Putin's forces to liberate them - the referendum then will be 95% for independence.

That's why London is the safest place to be if it all kicks off over Crimea. Russia ain't gonna nuke a city they own half of the really expensive real estate in.

Lenin Skynard

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That's why London is the safest place to be if it all kicks off over Crimea. Russia ain't gonna nuke a city they own half of the really expensive real estate in.

Russia ain't gonna waste nukes bombing Scrappy Doo either. They'd have much bigger fish to fry, no matter how many phone books William Hague stands on.

Smell Badda

Smell Badda wrote: »

General population of Scotland? I was convinced they had over 20mil there!

5.2 million according to wiki