What is a "gamer"? Do you consider yourself a "gamer"

murphyebass

Well as the title says really.

I have played games well since the 80's.

I still wouldn't classify myself as a gamer though as I genuinely suck at most game genres.

I always took a gamer to be someone who not only is knowledgable about gaming which I think I am to a point but also someone who can finish the likes of dark souls which to me sounds like just an awful experience (awaits inevitable abuse) ...

So what is a ''gamer"?

Dozen Wicked Words

murphyebass wrote: »

Well as the title says really.

I have played games well since the 80's.

I still wouldn't classify myself as a gamer though as I genuinely suck at most game genres.

I always took a gamer to be someone who not only is knowledgable about gaming which I think I am to a point but also someone who can finish the likes of dark souls which to me sounds like just an awful experience (awaits inevitable abuse) ...

So what is a ''gamer"?

I used to be a gamer, then they changed what being a gamer is, now I'm not a gamer, and being a gamer is weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you.........


I'm not knowledgeable about games and not very good at them either so I'm probably not a gamer. Occasional gamer, sounds better than casual.

Topbike77

I play games fairly often and would fall under the category of a "gamer" but I never really liked the word...

aaronjumper

I play games and I watch gaming related content like reviews, parodys, gaming news etc.

People that are interested in the world of gaming and not just the games themselves, is what I would consider to be a gamer and it is what I consider myself.

I assume the actual dictionary defintion is different but I have slow internet at the moment, so I'm not going through the wait of googling it.

DjFlin

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

I used to be a gamer, then they changed what being a gamer is, now I'm not a gamer, and being a gamer is weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you.........

No way, man! We are going to be gaming forever!..forever...forever......



I play games a lot, wouldn't call myself a gamer though. Its hard to explain.

I suppose its like how I wouldn't consider myself a cyclist, but I do cycle to work most days.

I like games, I like the games industry, but I feel like there are people who are far more interested in it than I am. I'm more of a hobbyist.

xfireblade

some1 who plays games innit

Skerries

I think you are all being harsh on yourselves
What I consider a gamer is that you actively play games whether it be console or PC for a certain amount of hours a week, knowledge of the latest and greatest games I wouldn't call a requisite to be included
People that game on their smart phones and consider themselves gamers are not gamers!
this idea of a gamer having to own all the latest gen consoles and have a museum of hardware in their spare room is not what I consider a gamer
A gamer is someone that plays games on a regular basis for fun and enjoyment

Agricola

I don't put it down to having an encyclopedic knowledge of gaming or being able to complete everything on insane difficulty. Maybe that's a "hardcore" gamer. But anyone who has an active interest in the industry, reads games websites regularly, and devotes (or tries to) a considerable amount of their free time to it, is a gamer to me.

Banjo

I'm pretty sure that reacting with a fist pump to the opening 'beeoooooooo!' of the Ocean loading music makes you a gamer. Talking about how it used to just be a 'boooo-ooo-oo' which was a purer experience makes you a hardcore gamer.

Skerries

sad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqvpskK4zc

Fnz

I'm not sure, but I think the only important element is the playing of at least one game.

If somebody feels passionate enough about their gaming experience, they can choose to label themselves as a gamer. That's not me giving permission, I just don't know if there's a line between the person playing Flappy Bird who does not identify as a gamer, and the person playing Flappy Bird who does identify as a gamer.

Things that do not define a gamer:
- Skill.
- Experience of more than a single game.
- Gaming knowledge.
- Industry knowledge.
- Engagement with the gaming community.
- Consumption of gaming media (other than games, themselves).
- Deference towards any company or person involved in the industry.

murphyebass

Cheer for the replies lads, it was one of those off the cuff things I was thinkin about after reading something in the Wii U thread.

I know it's just a term but its interesting to hear the different takes on it, not that it matters btw.

Personally though if i had to qualify it I'd probably say a gamer spends a lot of time playing games ie at least a couple of hours a night, I suppose not necessarily good at games although if your playing that amount of time it'd be tough not to be decent I suppose.

Maybe it's just a really stupid **** term that doesn't have specific key attributes well unless its playing flappy bird on your iphone

teddy87

I anyone who contributes to the gaming industry that actively buys games and consoles .doesnt mean every night for 5 or 6 hours but whenever they can.And someone who wont just pick up a game, suck at it at first and will try to get better and try to do what seams like impossible things in games and feeling great afterwards.

penev10

The term means different things to different people so hard to pin down to a definition. The media would class anyone who plays games as a gamer and it often has negative connotations (especially as they only seem to drag it out if they've been involved in a school shooting etc.)

I can only imagine pre-teen boys being interested in identifying themselves as one (or as anything as they seek to belong), most people don't like labeling themselves in general as it's perceived as immature.

ShadowHearth

Gamer - someone who plays regularly on a console, handheld, pc.

NOT a gamer - someone who plays angry birds while having a **** and plays time sink games on Facebook, then shouts to everyone - I am a gamer!!!

Varik

Ability, and by that I don't mean "1337 skillz".


PC gamer:
Their left hand is already hovering around WASD, Ctrl, and space when at a keyboard even when they're using word.

Console gamer:
Not spinning around looking at their feet or the ceiling/sky.

If they can do that then they can call themselves whatever they want.

CiDeRmAn

Fnz wrote: »

I'm not sure, but I think the only important element is the playing of at least one game.

If somebody feels passionate enough about their gaming experience, they can choose to label themselves as a gamer. That's not me giving permission, I just don't know if there's a line between the person playing Flappy Bird who does not identify as a gamer, and the person playing Flappy Bird who does identify as a gamer.

Things that do not define a gamer:
- Skill.
- Experience of more than a single game.
- Gaming knowledge.
- Industry knowledge.
- Engagement with the gaming community.
- Consumption of gaming media (other than games, themselves).
- Deference towards any company or person involved in the industry.

I couldn't disagree with you more.
Being a gamer had to mean more than someone who likes to play the occasional game on their phone.
If anything it suggests someone who is "into" the gaming scene in a manner greater than that of their peers, otherwise the word becomes meaningless.
I can agree that it isn't, perhaps, precise enough of that is not appropriately defined but broad church or not we can't just be nice about it and pretend anyone who enjoys the occasional game can be so described as one.

I see myself as a gamer, I think I can say that objectively, I have an extensive collection, I play quite a bit and have an extensive knowledge about many facets of the hobby.

At worst "gamer" is inadequate, but there is a reluctance to risk insult to anyone by suggesting this person is a "casual gamer" or this one is "hardcore", more of a problem with the idea of being an occasional player of videogames being something to be ashamed of.

Sarky

Play games? You're a gamer. No need for any of this purist nonsense to make yourself feel better than someone who isn't as obsessed with a thing you like as you are.

Skerries

yeah but we can all agree that casual phone game apps players are the scum of the gaming community *ptuh!*

landsleaving

I'm going to turn to The Simpsons for answers on this one.

"Oh Lord, what should I do?"
"Keep gaming. It means gambling, keep gambling."

So no, not a gambler.

I like video games though. But I'm rubbish at them, so I guess console/PC owner would be better. Since owning a camera doesn't make me a photographer, and owning a fish doesn't make me a fishmonger.

I'm confused. Words are confusing.

Ape Lincoln

I thought of a gamer as akin to a "film buff" or whatever. Some people watch films but some people follow the careers of actors, writers, DPs, directors etc. get into the techniques of film making, the theories and what have you. Could be as bad an analogy as anything though

I thought this piece on gamers as players was interesting: http://www.popmatters.com/tools/full/132545/

CiDeRmAn

Sarky wrote: »

Play games? You're a gamer. No need for any of this purest nonsense to make yourself feel better than someone who isn't as obsessed with a thing you like as you are.

Then the word has changed in definition over time.
There was a time, not that long ago, when being into videogames, not one or two the odd time but actually into the scene, was still a niche past time and so the term gamer was applicable.
The occasional game of Fifa or Need for Speed does not a gamer make.
So, in my opinion, all gamers are people who play games but not all people who play games are gamers.
It's ok to be a film buff, not everyone who watches the big movie releases sees themselves as one and isn't insulted at the distinction.
It's ok to be a foodie, not everyone who enjoys their grub sees themselves as a gastronaught, and aren't insulted by the distinction there either.
So why are people so insecure at the suggestion that there may be people who are into videogames more than they and use the word "gamer" to describe themselves?

theteal

The missus says I am. . .but I've really not been a proper gamer for quite some time. I've put in about 4 hours game time since the turn of the year. If it wasn't for the sky app, the 360 would only get turned on on increasingly rare occasions. I will admit that I am itching for a game of titanfall.

MadYaker

I always thought of gamers as kind of nerdy types who play WoW and wear zelda t-shirts and have glasses and go to LAN competitions. Theres a gamers society in my college and they all fit this description perfectly. I've never gone to any of their meetings, always full of slightly socially awkward types who tbh I find irritating and not much fun to hang around with. They don't drink much either.

I'm not like them at all but I am a gamer. I absolutely love games of all genres. I've spent a fair chunk of my life playing games since I was a kid. I spent a load of money building my own PC. I had a major counter strike addiction in my teens and I spent about 2000 hours playing that one game. I love zelda but id never wear the t shirt if you know what I mean. I guess there are different types of gamers.

Also none of friends are into games at all and none of them really know that I am either.

Fnz

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I couldn't disagree with you more.
Being a gamer had to mean more than someone who likes to play the occasional game on their phone.
If anything it suggests someone who is "into" the gaming scene in a manner greater than that of their peers, otherwise the word becomes meaningless.
I can agree that it isn't, perhaps, precise enough of that is not appropriately defined but broad church or not we can't just be nice about it and pretend anyone who enjoys the occasional game can be so described as one.

I see myself as a gamer, I think I can say that objectively, I have an extensive collection, I play quite a bit and have an extensive knowledge about many facets of the hobby.

At worst "gamer" is inadequate, but there is a reluctance to risk insult to anyone by suggesting this person is a "casual gamer" or this one is "hardcore", more of a problem with the idea of being an occasional player of videogames being something to be ashamed of.

It's not a matter of being politically correct. It's a matter of cutting out all the superfluous bs to find out what's important.

What are the 'minimum requirements' in your view?

CiDeRmAn

Fnz wrote: »

It's not a matter of being politically correct. It's a matter of cutting out all the superfluous bs to find out what's important.

What are the 'minimum requirements' in your view?

Nope, not touching that one.
All you end up doing is somehow p1ssing off those below the line who consider themselves gamers and those above the line who consider the gamer term insulting.

So, it's subjective and amongst friends it's easy to define, and there it ends, though internally I may consider this person a gamer and this person not it remains subjective and so only a personal opinion, I'm not going to try to justify it to others.

Fnz

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Nope, not touching that one.
All you end up doing is somehow p1ssing off those below the line who consider themselves gamers and those above the line who consider the gamer term insulting.

So, it's subjective and amongst friends it's easy to define, and there it ends, though internally I may consider this person a gamer and this person not it remains subjective and so only a personal opinion, I'm not going to try to justify it to others.

Well, you said you couldn't disagree with me more. I assumed that meant you had some minimum requirement that had been left out.

If you're happy to excluded people from the (not so) sought after 'gamer' identifier, in a thread about defining the term, your minimum requirements should be questioned.

Potential-Monke

I definitely consider myself a gamer. Gaming is my not just my hobby, but also the one thing i love doing more than anything else in the world. Gaming can cheer me up when i'm unhappy. It transports me to these beautiful and exotic locations full of magnificent characters, and also to dangerous lands full of monsters, aliens and creatures of your nightmares. It gives me memories that i will cherish forever, and will never forget. It takes me out of the slog of the real world and for a few hours lets me forget my worries. It never gives out to me, and will always give me another chance. It doesn't judge me, and lets me participate no matter my skill level. It has no preconditions, and anyone can join in. You don't need to be fit, fast, have a 6-pack or be the best looking person in the world, gaming will accept you.

The majority of people I know still don't understand that a 30-year old male can enjoy gaming as much as i do. They believe i should have grown out of it. The believe it's only for children or the socially inept. I have a life outside of gaming, but it's gaming which i most long to do when i'm unable to play for whatever reasons. It doesn't take over my life, but always give me something to look forward to. People have no problem with those who are in deep with their passions, like soccer, American football, hurling, poker, reading, mountaineering, skiing, etc. Those same people have a problem with gaming, and it annoys me so.

A gamer is, in my opinion, someone who has an active interest in the scene, but not necessarily someone who knows everything about it. A gamer is someone who invests a lot of time and money into it. I fell in love with gaming back in 1988, when my mother gave me a pong machine, then an Atari 2600, a loan of the cousins Commodore 64, the best Christmas presents of a SNES and a PlayStation. I still game as much as i can, and still do marathon sessions when i get the need for it.

Also of note, someone who only plays Facebook or App games are not gamers.

dobman88

This man is a gamer! http://uk.games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/renowned-xbox-gamer-becomes-first-reach-1-million-181318721.html

https://twitter.com/Stallion83

Fnz

I don't get why people are so confident in declaring others as 'non-gamers'.

Could a person who only plays (the original) Donkey Kong be a gamer?

If yes, why not somebody who only plays facebook or phone games?

irishmover

dobman88 wrote: »

This man is a gamer! http://uk.games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/renowned-xbox-gamer-becomes-first-reach-1-million-181318721.html

https://twitter.com/Stallion83

Or obsessed.

jaykhunter

I don't like the term 'gamer' although I'm so used to it I'd describe myself as one. (Like why aren't there 'filmers' or 'musicers'?) and I think the term 'hardcore' is erroneous - It's used to describe people who actually only play eg Fifa/COD as opposed to someone playing all types of games (which'd actually be a hardcore gamer)

I'd also admit to being condescending towards phone games (I call them Toilet games or apps).

CiDeRmAn

Fnz wrote: »

Well, you said you couldn't disagree with me more. I assumed that meant you had some minimum requirement that had been left out.

If you're happy to excluded people from the (not so) sought after 'gamer' identifier, in a thread about defining the term, your minimum requirements should be questioned.

It's far simpler to define the moniker "gamer" in terms of what it doesn't signify rather than what it does.
That said I would suggest that being a gamer is simply shorthand for being a gaming enthusiast, and so is in the same group as a Ferrari enthusiast, food enthusiast, music enthusiast and so on, better known as Tifosi, Foodie/Gastronome and Music Buff.
As someone who got into the scene in the 70s and into the present day I see the games enthusiast as someone like myself, but not limited by my interests.

But being a games enthusiast can be defined as one who is many of the things you mention as it being not, so it can be someone who has an eclectic taste in games and consoles.
It can also be someone with a particular love of one developer/publisher/console manufacturer.
It can be someone who is an avid player of videogames or someone who prudish doesn't play a vast amount of games but who has a deep knowledge of the topic.
It can be someone who collects and appreciates the exotica of the hobby.
And, obviously, this list is not exhaustive, there are many other ways to mark the gaming enthusiast, he or she that may be also called a "gamer"

CiDeRmAn

Fnz wrote: »

I don't get why people are so confident in declaring others as 'non-gamers'.

Could a person who only plays (the original) Donkey Kong be a gamer?

If yes, why not somebody who only plays facebook or phone games?

People, at times, take pride in their area of interest and so do find it irritating when someone is described with the same term when it is clear that they have nothing in common.
Phone games have become linked to the kind of exploitative experiences that people who are into games have increasingly seen encroaching into even mainstream consoles, the paywalls, buying your way to success, and while a phone should be just as capable of acting as a platform for meaningful experiences, and there are good examples of this, more and more of the content on app stores are geared towards exploiting the player as a resource stream, damaging the reputation of the platform.
As for Facebook games, unlike mobile phone games, they seem to be without redemption and appear to be simply designed to gain access to advertising revenue and your friend list.

I don't know anyone who only plays Donkey Kong or any other single game, be it arcade it retro, though I do have friends who are big into a genre, be it Shmup or Mmorpg, I would also see them as gamers though, and they certainly don't shut themselves off from the chance to play other games on occasion.

krudler

I'd consider myself a gamer but don't like the negative connotation that goes with it. I've been playing games since the 80's and don't ever plan on not having an interest in games.

Years ago when I worked in retail I would have taken more notice of charts, sales figures etc so don't do that anymore but still keep up with news for stuff I'm interested in. There's plenty of big franchises that I've never gotten into like Mass Effect or some big pc titles due to a lack of a gaming rig these days. I play the odd thing on my phone, have a vita, mostly play my ps3, still retro game on my emulators on my tablet which is 90% of what the thing gets used for aside from reading books and comics.

CiDeRmAn

A question then as to why has it become a bad word.
Why have some people turned the notion of someone being a gamer should be something to be ashamed of, or something childish.
A person identifying themselves as a gamer shouldn't be worried they'll be judged as anything other than a person who appreciates good games, playing good games and those who create good games and systems.

Tipsy McSwagger

The word gamer is now synonymous with the clowns who play COD & FIFA and just abuse everyone. I hate the word as much as I hate the term 'hardcore gamer'. Who the hell calls themselves a 'gamer' anyway?

aaronjumper

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

The word gamer is now synonymous with the clowns who play COD & FIFA and just abuse everyone. I hate the word as much as I hate the term 'hardcore gamer'. Who the hell calls themselves a 'gamer' anyway?

I call myself a gamer, I didn't realise it had developed negative connotations.
I don't care though, I am what I am and its quick and easy to say. Rather than saying "I am a person that enjoys games" I just say I am a gamer. Most of my friends are too, so that helps.

CiDeRmAn

aaronjumper wrote: »

I call myself a gamer, I didn't realise it had developed negative connotations.
I don't care though, I am what I am and its quick and easy to say. Rather than saying "I am a person that enjoys games" I just say I am a gamer. Most of my friends are too, so that helps.

I'm not sure when it became negative either but I'm pretty sure it wasn't gamers who said it, there will always be those who view the pastime as an unworthy waste of time. And more fool them imho.

krudler

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm not sure when it became negative either but I'm pretty sure it wasn't gamers who said it, there will always be those who view the pastime as an unworthy waste of time. And more fool them imho.

For some reason people still think of gaming as being for kids and young teens, even though the demographic of games is late 20's or more these days. They're as valid a past time as movies or music imo.

CiDeRmAn

Well I'm a gamer in my 40s and don't see my enthusiasm for the scene decreasing any time soon, quite opposite in fact.

Never understood the need people have to label themselves. Generally the people I find who call themselves "gamers" are the kind who look down on people and see themselves as a cut above.

Honestly does it really matter what a gamer is? Long as someone plays and enjoys gaming then they're a gamer. Doesn't matter if you're playing a Facebook time sink, some rare SNES title or COD.

In all my years of gaming I've never had anyone look down in me for playing games. In fact most people I know who play games are in their 20s and upward and it's generally accepted by most.

2Mad2BeMad

MadYaker wrote: »

I always thought of gamers as kind of nerdy types who play WoW and wear zelda t-shirts and have glasses and go to LAN competitions. Theres a gamers society in my college and they all fit this description perfectly. I've never gone to any of their meetings, always full of slightly socially awkward types who tbh I find irritating and not much fun to hang around with. They don't drink much either.

I'm not like them at all but I am a gamer. I absolutely love games of all genres. I've spent a fair chunk of my life playing games since I was a kid. I spent a load of money building my own PC. I had a major counter strike addiction in my teens and I spent about 2000 hours playing that one game. I love zelda but id never wear the t shirt if you know what I mean. I guess there are different types of gamers.

Also none of friends are into games at all and none of them really know that I am either.

I thought that as well
years ago I use too think "Gamers" Where competitive players/people who play games all day everyday or people who play WoW

I guess I don't think of it like that anymore
I never liked the name or term if you could call it that

so in my opinion a gamer is someone who plays games, any games, competitively or socially or casually

just like football, I play football for my team so you would call me a footballer (as well as many other terms used for it)

A gamer is someone who plays games, is their really anything else about the word that springs different things?
how could you call someone who plays games competitively or someone who plays only 1 game a year like certain Cod fans not a gamer
they still play that 1 game their fore their a gamer

Like I said I never liked the word gamer.

Gbear

I've played chess. I'm not a "chess player".

Similarly with games, I think you have to regularly play games as a hobby.
Not just having played them once.

There's definitely a problem when a lot of people still feel they can't come together and discuss games in the same way you can with literature, TV or films (obviously forums like this break that barrier down).

MadYaker mentioned Gaming Societies somewhat adhering to the stereotype and that's been my experience as well.
People who play games seriously and regularly aren't just Cosplayers, people who play Magic: The Gathering or go to conventions and LAN parties.
And I'm not saying that to disparage those things. It's just that gaming has grown it's audience well beyond the classic definition of the nerd.

I've a group of friends and they would all be bright, well read and generally towards the nerdy end of the scale. But even they wouldn't give games a second thought, other than the odd game of FIFA or Tekken with a few lads over a few beers.

I suspect we're going to need a generation of people growing up with gamer parents in large numbers before it's fully normalised (and the label gamer becomes redundant - there's not really a name for people who read or watch movies).
It's happening a bit now with people in the 30-40 range having kids but I'd say it'll be another 5-10 years of those kids growing up and a bunch of old people dying before gaming is truly considered normal.

Backfire

I regard playing video games as a hobbie, just like playing golf or collecting stamps.

If it is something that interests you to a degree and you play games regularly to enjoy them (and not just to beat everyone else at the game or keep going until you have all the achievements nomatter what), then i would call oneself a gamer.

If you are exceptionally good at games and play non-stop, i'm sure there is terms for that kind of person too such as 'hardcore gamer' which is used incorrectly way too much these days. I think a gaming addict is more appropriate for those people who play every day for hours and ultimately an addiction leads to problems, health-wise and socially. Its surely not something to aspire to.

nesf

Gamer? I suppose so, I don't really identify with the generic term though, same as with nerd or geek. If you asked me if I was a "Strategy Gamer" or "Wargamer" or "RPG fan" or "PC Gamer" etc they you'd get a resounding yes. The problem with "Gamer" is that it casts too wide a net as a term and brings in too many very disparate groups. The term has lost all meaning really without some qualification regarding genre or platform.

Though personally I think I'd just prefer if you asked if I liked Strategy Games to be honest. It's simpler and we can get down to the meat of it and start talking about our favourite games and why the other person needs to play them. :P

nesf

MadYaker wrote: »

I always thought of gamers as kind of nerdy types who play WoW and wear zelda t-shirts and have glasses and go to LAN competitions. Theres a gamers society in my college and they all fit this description perfectly. I've never gone to any of their meetings, always full of slightly socially awkward types who tbh I find irritating and not much fun to hang around with. They don't drink much either.

Um. I'm going to a gaming clan meet-up at a tank museum in the summer and I don't drink much. I wouldn't be caught dead in a Zelda t-shirt though. Fecking nerds.

o1s1n

No, I don't. And I cringed a little when I hear people using the term. I cringe even more when someone puts 'hardcore' before it. Reminds me of something like Gamezville.

'Dis iz Gamezville! Da place 4 hardcore gamers innit? The Games Guru gives dis term 5 Gs!'

Doctor DooM

nesf wrote: »

Um. I'm going to a gaming clan meet-up at a tank museum in the summer and I don't drink much. I wouldn't be caught dead in a Zelda t-shirt though. Fecking nerds.

I went abroad to Cannes for a fighting game tournament a couple weeks back and spent most of the time partying with the other competitiors. I can confirm at no point during the weekend was I wearing gaming related clothing.

In fact, the winner of this large event was interviewed for a gaming site and when asked what his favourite part of the weekend was he said something along the lines of "winning, obviously, and hanging with the Irish guys".

Anyway the hardcore gamer tag is a bit silly. I know frame data for certain fighting games but I barely concern myself with new releases. I rarely play on PC and I dislike most FPSes intensely. I barely understand MOBAs. I do however enjoy mobile gaming.

So at the same time I am really casual and a huge "hardcore" gamer.

o1s1n

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Anyway the hardcore gamer tag is a bit silly. I know frame data for certain fighting games but I barely concern myself with new releases. I rarely play on PC and I dislike most FPSes intensely. I barely understand MOBAs. I do however enjoy mobile gaming.

So at the same time I am really casual and a huge "hardcore" gamer.

I'd be pretty much in the same boat. I spend most of my time playing and tinkering with arcade machines/PCBs these days.

So 'casual' when it comes to new releases but then how the hell can someone with arcade machines in the kitchen be considered casual?

Doctor DooM

o1s1n wrote: »

I'd be pretty much in the same boat. I spend most of my time playing and tinkering with arcade machines/PCBs these days.

So 'casual' when it comes to new releases but then how the hell can someone with arcade machines in the kitchen be considered casual?

I love my retro buddies. Part of being an, ahem, older fighting game fan is an affection for the old arcade scene. I'll never forget the first time I showed up to one of the retro events and someone handed me a stick and I rotated it once and went "ah, semitsu parts" and people couldn't believe it

Yup we're both in the same boat, maybe we're softcore gamers!