Bought van burning oil

Panel mac

Well folks. I bought a van recently all seemed ok until about 5 days after I bought it I dipped it for oil and it was very low.
I contacted who I bought it off, not a garage just a ordinary joe soap. He said he didn't have this problem.
I had very little driving done for it to be burning oil. I left it down with my mechanic who fixed it up 3500€ worth of work had to be done 3 weeks after I bought it. What my chances if I took this man to court he sold a dodgy van

corktina

no chance at all. Buyer beware,Sorry

wexie

Panel mac wrote: »

What my chances if I took this man 2 court he sold a dodgy van

You could also look at it differently :you BOUGHT a dodgy van....


Perhaps if you could prove unequivocally that he knew the van to be dodgy when he sold it, but as you already said, he's just a Joe Soap, what the hell does he know about vans?

Sorry mate, 'tis a hard lesson to learn

Panel mac

Wel he wud have known it was burning oil because u cudnt keep oil in it. He had been driving away told me it was good van etc. and tat it was given no trouble. I got a engineer report and he said the miles were clocked. He wasn't the only owner of the van there was 2 previous owners.

mickdw

It appears you were big enough and bold enough to go off and buy the van presumably without having any professional checks or professional knowledge of the van type etc. You have to be big enough now to get your wallet out.
If you wanted guarantees, you should have bought one from a dealer. You have no hope of getting anything from the seller. After all you have even said here that it was very low in oil at some point of your ownership - Seller could argue that damage was caused since you got it.

corktina

Panel mac wrote: »

Wel he wud have known it was burning oil because u cudnt keep oil in it. He had been driving away told me it was good van etc. and tat it was given no trouble. I got a engineer report and he said the miles were clocked. He wasn't the only owner of the van there was 2 previous owners.

I have no doubt he knew...it's proving it you wont be able to do. Even if you did mange it, he'd tell the Court he has no money and they'd tell him to pay €1 a week or something daft. I feel for you, but you'll have to swallow this one I think.

Panel mac

Cheers 4 da replys I'll let yas no how I got on.

Del2005

corktina wrote: »

I have no doubt he knew...it's proving it you wont be able to do. Even if you did mange it, he'd tell the Court he has no money and they'd tell him to pay €1 a week or something daft. I feel for you, but you'll have to swallow this one I think.

IIRC the only reason you can go after a private seller is if the vehicle is dangerous everything else is tough luck, you should have it checked out before you buy, and as you said even getting a judgement may not get you any money.

DaveJac

what was wrong that it cost 3500 engine changed?? did you check the oil when you bought it? van might have been using oil id be more concerened in why in cost 3500 to fix

demanufactured

Buyer beware on private sales....you have no comeback

Stavros Murphy

Suck it up OP - I bought a transit last wednesday, the lad driving it rang me there this evening to say it had seized solid on the M7. You pays your money, you takes your chance. It's one of the joys of motoring.

Unfortunately, in my experience anyway, the reality of second hand cars especially at the lower end of the market here is that they are almost guaranteed to need an engine rebuild due to neglect. Your best bet is either buy newish with a warranty or buy something that already has a faulty engine and budget a rebuild on top of the purchase price. Or you could buy from UK where they actually tend to maintain engines.

It's strange that I used to have cars with 200 kilometers on the clock in Finland/UK that used not a drop of oil (Peugeot 205 1.1 with 200k, Sierra 1.6 with 250k, Sprinter CDi with over 300k) but here every single one I have bought have used several liters between the services. Several oil burners later I decided to spend € 250 to a non-runner and about 1k to rebuild the engine (which was unbelievably crusty internally, i.e. neglected all it's life) which has now been on the road for about a year without burning any oil between services. Incidentally, It's due for a fourth change in a year as I have done about 10k km since last oil change, and the first three were done during the running in process.

Supernintento Chalmers

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Suck it up OP - I bought a transit last wednesday, the lad driving it rang me there this evening to say it had seized solid on the M7. You pays your money, you takes your chance. It's one of the joys of motoring.

Lesson learnt, eh buddy
Next time make sure to bring someone with you who knows a bit about engines before you buy.

Stavros Murphy

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

Lesson learnt, eh buddy
Next time make sure to bring someone with you who knows a bit about engines before you buy.

Naah, got another 141 Master today to replace it. Much nicer. Vans die, life goes on, it only died as the muppet who serviced it forgot to tighten the bottom hose-clip after changing the coolant anyway.

Did you ever get that Boxy Micra going?

Del2005

samih wrote: »

Unfortunately, in my experience anyway, the reality of second hand cars especially at the lower end of the market here is that they are almost guaranteed to need an engine rebuild due to neglect. Your best bet is either buy newish with a warranty or buy something that already has a faulty engine and budget a rebuild on top of the purchase price. Or you could buy from UK where they actually tend to maintain engines.

It's strange that I used to have cars with 200 kilometers on the clock in Finland/UK that used not a drop of oil (Peugeot 205 1.1 with 200k, Sierra 1.6 with 250k, Sprinter CDi with over 300k) but here every single one I have bought have used several liters between the services. Several oil burners later I decided to spend € 250 to a non-runner and about 1k to rebuild the engine (which was unbelievably crusty internally, i.e. neglected all it's life) which has now been on the road for about a year without burning any oil between services. Incidentally, It's due for a fourth change in a year as I have done about 10k km since last oil change, and the first three were done during the running in process.

You must have bad luck as I have only ever bought cheap cars and the only one that burnt oil was a Corolla, which was a design flaw on Toyota's part. None of my engines have needed replacement or anything other than normal service and replacement of consumables

Supernintento Chalmers

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Naah, got another 141 Master today to replace it. Much nicer. Vans die, life goes on, it only died as the muppet who serviced it forgot to tighten the bottom hose-clip after changing the coolant anyway.

The driver sounds like a right bright spark.
You'd think they'd notice the thermometer going off the scale :rolleyes:

ba_barabus

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

The driver sounds like a right bright spark.
You'd think they'd notice the thermometer going off the scale :rolleyes:

Are you just here to cause trouble or have you something useful to add?

Stavros Murphy

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

The driver sounds like a right bright spark.
You'd think they'd notice the thermometer going off the scale :rolleyes:

Indeed. And on the M7 of all places, that bastion of service stations, watering stops and 24 hour garages. Hard to imagine eh? But not to worry, as I bought a Recovery truck off DD last night, so that angle is covered from here on in.;) Who knows, it might even become a new little business. Every cloud and all that.