Off road declaration query...

quenching

My car is 30 in early November this year when it'll qualify for vintage tax rates, its current motor tax expires this month and as I won't be using it I intend to declare it off road, all very easy via the Motor Tax website. However, I'd like to tax it from November onwards, but as Motor Tax periods start at the beginning of the month I'm not sure when the vintage tax period actually starts. Say it's 30 on the 10th November and I tax it from the 12th November (and change its tax class at the same time of course), do I pay vintage tax rates from when I tax it or do I have to pay 3 months of normal rates then vintage when renewal comes around. In which case I'll wait until December.

hi5

Good question, I don't know the answer, but I'd presume they'd give you the vintage rate from the beginning of November.
I can't imagine them getting the calculators out and adding on 10 days at the full rate, but who knows:)?

Nekarsulm

Or just wait till December 1st, then there is no reason not to give you the reduced rate.

wexie

At a guess I'd say the *logical* way would be that you'll pay vintage tax rates from the beginning of November as at that stage you'll have changed the tax rate. Tax always goes from the beginning of the month.

As an afterthought, could you not just change the tax rate and then see how much it'd be to tax it?

corktina

i'd go with the latter.. see what they say the tax rate is after you have changed the class....if it is at the old rate, wait for December!

quenching

wexie wrote: »

At a guess I'd say the *logical* way would be that you'll pay vintage tax rates from the beginning of November as at that stage you'll have changed the tax rate. Tax always goes from the beginning of the month.

As an afterthought, could you not just change the tax rate and then see how much it'd be to tax it?

Thats the way I'd look at it too, but I'm waiting for the argument that it wasn't vintage class for the first 10 days of the month etc etc.

I rang the local tax office to ask, they don't know. They did suggest that I ring back in an hour and someone who knows might be there then

carchaeologist

Excellent conundrum.
And yet another example of the farce that is/was the off the road declaration.
Will be interesting to see the outcome.

spooky donkey

I thought that onece your car is from 1984 that you could just vintage tax it from the start of that year... I supose givin that my car is a Jan car I never really gave it a 2nd thought.

I think its better if you tax it from 1st dec then. regarding the off road decloration I dont think you need to do any thing. I declared my car off the road for a year last september and I just went in and taxed it this month no mention of the off road decloration. I dont think they care so long as you are taxing your car.

quenching

Called Motor Tax office again and got someone who checked the answer, they say that if I tax if after the date on which it can be classed as vintage then I will pay the vintage rate. So, qualifies for vintage tax rate on 10th Nov, change tax class, tax it on the 12th Nov for 1 year which covers it from Nov 1st '14 to end Oct '15.

Simple really!

quenching

spooky donkey wrote: »

I thought that onece your car is from 1984 that you could just vintage tax it from the start of that year... I supose givin that my car is a Jan car I never really gave it a 2nd thought.

Nope, 30 years from the exact date of first registration I'm afraid.

hi5

quenching wrote: »

Called Motor Tax office again and got someone who checked the answer, they say that if I tax if after the date on which it can be classed as vintage then I will pay the vintage rate. So, qualifies for vintage tax rate on 10th Nov, change tax class, tax it on the 12th Nov for 1 year which covers it from Nov 1st '14 to end Oct '15.

Simple really!

So if your full rate is €1809 and your cars birthday is near the end if the month, you make a nice little saving on the change over to vintage:)

But then you didn't drive the car for those days so you really lost a month on your vintage tax

mattroche

Declare it " off road " for 9 months. On the 12 Nov. go to the motor tax office, change the class to vintage, as its the middle of the month, it wont be busy, so they should be able to do it on the spot. Then tax it there and then vintage, running from 1st. Nov. there should not be any problem.