Best place to sell a Rolex?

deegs

Hi folks, first time in this section....
I got a Rolex a few years ago for my 30th, it's still in its original display box and was only ever used for a few special occasions (have tag aquaracer for day to day use).
I've decided to sell it but am a bit anxious of where to sell it. Was thinking ebay, but will someone really make a legit offer there at its true value? But at least paypal is safe?
Then I was thinking adverts, but I have a thoughts of dodgy people giving, me a load of dodgy notes....

Am I over paranoid or is there a better place to sell a high end watch?

Eoin

Adverts.ie is free, so you may as well stick up an advert. Just try not to pull your hair out with the stupid offers. If you're worried about getting dodgy cash, do the handover in a branch of your bank and lodge it to your account with the buyer present.

I wouldn't use eBay. Not only will the fees sting you, but there's a chance that someone will claim you sent them a fake and get a refund from you.

Chrono24.com might be worth a shot - I've no idea about the fees or the selling experience, but it seems to be one of the most popular watch classified sites.

deegs

Thanks Eoin,
Just looking at chrono24, they sure have a lot of watches...
This is the exact same as mine, except mine is blue/navy.
Is it a fair price? I've read that a lot of the prices on that site are high?
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/oyster-perpetual-14233--id2634538.htm
costs 50quid to list... and they give a money back if not sold within 6 months... might go there actually!

deegs

Actually here is the exact same...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-No-Date-Oyster-Perpetual-14233-34mm-Blue-Stick-Warranty-Montre-Swiss-/151246905163?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2337049f4b
Seems a bit pricier...

Wibbs

IMHO I don't think it's a good judge D. I've found the prices on chrono24 vary all over the place and the dealer prices are often well over priced. I recall looking at one model of watch where the prices went from 1900 euro(private seller) to over 3000 euro(dealer) and the latter was in slightly worse condition. On watch forums the same model would be had for 18-1900.

I've noted the prices people will pay/expect varies across markets by quite a bit. EG I've noted German folks will pay a little more than US folks for the same watch(maybe 10% more). Depends on the brand name too, though not so much in your case with a Rolex. The nice thing about them is they tend to be consistent in price across markets.

deegs

I put it up here, I'll try chrono24 later and report back
http://www.adverts.ie/dress/rolex-oyster-perpetual-14233-blue-face-gold-steel/5002181

deegs

Wibbs wrote: »

IMHO I don't think it's a good judge D. I've found the prices on chrono24 vary all over the place and the dealer prices are often well over priced. I recall looking at one model of watch where the prices went from 1900 euro(private seller) to over 3000 euro(dealer) and the latter was in slightly worse condition. On watch forums the same model would be had for 18-1900.

I've noted the prices people will pay/expect varies across markets by quite a bit. EG I've noted German folks will pay a little more than US folks for the same watch(maybe 10% more). Depends on the brand name too, though not so much in your case with a Rolex. The nice thing about them is they tend to be consistent in price across markets.

Damn...
I've just put it on adverts... do you think its terribly overpriced?

Wibbs

I don't think so D. You'd get that price or close to it all day long in the wider world. In Ireland its harder to say. Watch aficionados are few enough in number, or we hide ourselves from the normals. If Adverts doesn't work for you you do have the wider world available through Chrono24. Good luck with the sale anyway.

I see you also posted in our watches for sale thread. I was about to do that for ya, but you beat me to it. Finally a real Rolex on that page. :D

deegs

Thanks, makes sense. Might try chrono today.

deegs

I'm thinking I might post up how its going, maybe someone else selling a watch may find it useful...

Ok, eventually got it listed on Chrono... payment of 50€ given and if the watch does not sell within 6 months I get it back. https://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/rolex-oyster-perpetual-14233-blue-face-goldsteel-strap--id2709152.htm

Very happy with the emails from chrono24 including one on security that helps assure me

Chrono24 – Your security is important to us!

Dear Chrono24 user,

We would also like to provide you with comprehensive information relating to security since that you have chosen to offer a high value watch on our online market. We will send you our service email on security filled with helpful tips that can protect you against attempted fraud.

Please take note of our suggestions for international watch sales and read the current security information on known cases of fraud. This will help ensure that your ad is a success!

General security information for selling high value watches

- Be careful if the buyer asks you to manage the transaction through an obscure escrow service. While there are reputable escrow companies, unfortunately most escrow sites are faked.

- Please keep in mind when making a sale using Paypal to check that the payment has been irrevocably credited to your account before delivering the merchandise. Do not rely on confirmation emails from Paypal but check your account statement online.

- When accepting pre-payment via bank transfer, please make sure that the funds have been credited to your account irrevocably before shipping. Only rely on statements from your own bank regarding the arrival of funds.

Be very careful!

The following cases describe known tricks used by fraudsters that have been frequently reported:

- Be careful with potential buyers that offer a personal handover of cash in Northern Italy (Milan) or Brussels (Belgium).

- Be careful if someone offers you more than your asking price.

- Be careful if the buyer wants to pay via cheque from a foreign bank. While your own bank might add the funds in your account at first, if the cheque bounces, the funds will be deducted from your account and you may have to pay an additional fee.

- Be careful with buyers from Nigeria. Especially if you receive an alleged letter of a bank, which confirms the payment of the buyer and prompts you to send the goods to complete the money transfer.

- Be careful if you are contacted by a potential buyer via SMS. With fake e-mails from PayPal or other credit institution such as Royal Bank you will be asked to make a refund to the alleged buyer.

Current security information

Unfortunately, there have been some recent attempts to defraud sellers of premium watches. Sellers are contacted by a supposed buyer and are persuaded to meet the buyer at a location (generally Milan, Turin or Brussels) where the watch will be handed over for the sale price, paid for in cash. Through various schemes, the buyer manages to pay the seller with counterfeit bank notes – and the valuable watch is gone.

This scam (known as a “rip deal”) has been used for years in the used car, boat and real estate sectors. The scammers now also seem to be targeting sellers of premium watches.

So we advise you to use particular caution with prospective buyers who:
- Propose a cash transaction in Milan, Turin or Brussels
- Offer dubious additional business dealings (exchanging currency, “laundering” untaxed money, etc.)

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any other security questions. We are happy to help.

We hope you have a successful sale!

Best wishes,
Your Chrono24 team

Happy out so far, but then I get this email this morning from Chrono24 (still no contact from any potential buyers, but it has only been up about an hour!)

Thank you for your ad on Chrono24.

Your advertised watch "Rolex Oyster Perpetual 14233 Blue face gold/steel strap" is a particularly nice object and, in my opinion, can garner a good price in one of the upcoming Chrono24 Live Auctions.

I would estimate your watch's hammer price at EUR 2500 .

More information about Chrono24 Live Auctions can be found here: https://www.chrono24.com/en/info/auctionata.htm

If you are interested in our offer, simply reply to this email (non-binding) or email oliver.hoffmann@chrono24.com, and I will get back to you shortly. You can also reach me by phone at +49 30 9832 0222.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Yours sincerely,
Dr. Oliver Hoffmann
Watch expert of Chrono24 and Auctionata

I've asked him for more info, but in the mean time what do you guys think?

I'm also in the process of putting the watch up on ebay, but you need to go through rigmarole to extend your money monthly limit above 700. Total fees to sell on ebay with a reserve is about 100. If this chrono auction comes in at 50 it may be the way to go, no? Or should I stick with ebay?

paddyh117

Interesting - I have no experience of selling on either eBay or Chrono24, but if it were me I'd stick to Chrono24 - they've a good website & reputation, and the Auction idea also looks good

just my 2c - best of luck

deegs

Just heard back from them.... seems they will take the watch from me now and put it up for auction in may. The will clean and photograph the watch. If successful in sale I will pay them 24% comission and if unsuccessful I will pay them 5% of the valuation.

Also, looking at their site, a buyer will also pay 24% so they actually make 48% of the sale price!!!! I'm in the wrong game!!

thank you for your initial interest. As member of the Watch Department of Dr. Oliver Hoffmann, I would like to give you the questioned informations how the Chrono24 and Auctionata auction works:



We already estimated your watch.

We would pay the insured transport of your watch.

When the watch is arrived in our house we clean it and our specialized team of photographers make high-quality pictures of it.

The next watch-auction, where we still have free lots is on 28.05.2014. In general our watch auctions are successful auctions with hundreds or thousands of bidders from all over the world which are interested in buying high-quality watches. Our cooperation with Chrono24, the world wide greatest platform for watches, is here also essential, amongst others the thousands visitors of the website see the countdown for our auctions and in particular your watch.

About a month before the auction the watch will be part of our online-catalogue and we make on- and offline publicity for it.

The catalogue can be seen from every place in the world 24 hours every day in the week and it is possible to give absentee bids.



Big advantages to Ebay are that we offer you our professional presentation of your watch and that we make publicity for it. Also is your watch one of 120 and not of thousands. But we have at least some hundreds till thousand prospective buyers in every watch auction, also the old collectors which don’t trust Ebay or Internet and who comes here in person or want to bid per phone. Also do we verify our buyers and if they don’t pay we have a juristic department who cares about it. In addition the watch is insured in the time here over our insurance and, an addition for the buyer, we give a guarantee for 25 years.



In general we start the auction at 50% of the estimated value.

· If your watch is sold in the auction we would take 23,8% commission, for high value watches this is subject to individual negotiations. This commission includes all costs like transport, insurance, etc. and will not be due before selling.

· If the watch is not sold in the auction it is about ten days available in our online shop for the starting price+40%. This price includes all dues of the buyer.

· If the watch is not sold after these days you have the choice to still offer your watch in our online shop or to take it back for a withdraw fee of 4.76% of the estimate price.

In every case you get the costs for the announce at Chrono24 back with signing the contract.



If you are interested I would like to send you a detailed contract.



If you have questions to the conditions, please don’t hesitate to contact me. You will also find some more informations and records here: http://chrono24.auctionata.com/en/chrono24-auction-calendar.



Best regards,



Juliane Beyer

---

Assistant Watch Department

Think I'll try ebay first.... 100quid if i sell and 2 quid if I dont!

paddyh117

yeah, I've changed my mind - that auction sounds rubbish!!

deegs

Unreal right..... I couldn't believe it so I contacted them agin... They just replied and no more than 50%of the money paid by the buyer goes to the seller....

Wibbs

No wonder prices are high on Chrono24. Feck that D.

Deep Thought

24% of the commission :eek:

Crazy...

deegs

Deep Thought wrote: »

24% of the commission :eek:

Crazy...

Ahhh..... The take 48% of the money paid by the buyer. Then the buyer pays 2.1% art tax and and delivery.....
I'd be lucky to get 45% leftovers...
EBay is crashing as well, can't get it listed yet, this a feckin ordeal, thinking bout keeping it at this stage.

ozmo

Are you sure its only 100 on a 2500 item on ebay? Friend sold something for 1000 once and it was aprox 100 for that with ebay plus separate paypal charges.

Also id guess you will need better photos than those to get the really high bids. Consider hiring a professional - or at the very least maybe checkout the "Macro Mode" function available in most compact cameras. You cannot really see the condition of the piece in those photos. Good luck with the sale!

deegs

ozmo wrote: »

Are you sure its only 100 on a 2500 item on ebay? Friend sold something for 1000 once and it was aprox 100 for that with ebay plus separate paypal charges.

Also id guess you will need better photos than those to get the really high bids. Consider hiring a professional - or at the very least maybe checkout the "Macro Mode" function available in most compact cameras. You cannot really see the condition of the piece in those photos. Good luck with the sale!

I have a good dslr I can try and take better pics, I thought mine were good though.
I could be wrong but only had a quick look at ebay terms, but final value commission is 10% up to a max of 95euro. Likewise insertion fee can go to a max of 3 euro. So it should never be more than 100 approx.

I should really pull the finger out and stick it up...

deegs

Took a bit of time today to try and get better pics, think I did alright...
http://www.adverts.ie/dress/rolex-oyster-perpetual-14233-blue-face-gold-steel/5002181
Will put it up on ebay soon and see how it goes...

deegs

Jez... finally got paypal to increase the selling limit on my account from £700.
Went to list the item on ebay and seems I am now limited to £750...
Currently on ebay live chat support....

Victor Prendergast
Welcome to eBay Live Chat. My name is Victor. How may I be of assistance to you?
Victor Prendergast
Hello xxxx
xxxx
Hi, I am trying to sell a watch for 2700 but ebay says I am limited to £750
Victor Prendergast
xxxx, for your information, eBay accounts are automatically reviewed on a monthly basis and a selling allowance increase may be granted based on your account performance.
Victor Prendergast
These allowances allow us to protect our sellers, our buyers and our community as a whole.
xxxx
Is it possible to sell my watch on ebay?
Victor Prendergast
We have a specialised team to address the issue and I am sure the team will be able to address the situation to your satisfaction.
Victor Prendergast
Shall I transfer the chat session to the specialised team for further & better assistance?
xxxx
Sure, if they can help.
Victor Prendergast
Thank you for the confirmation. Please stay connected while I transfer the session to the team.
Victor Prendergast
Has transferred you to:Jack Power
Jack Power
Thank you for contacting eBay Live Help. My name is Jack. Please give me a moment to review what you've discussed with the previous representative.
Jack Power
Hello xxxx, I understand you want to sell your item for an amount that exceeds your selling allowance. Please bear with me for 2 minutes while I check this for you. I'll be with you shortly.
Jack Power
Thanks for waiting xxxx, I've looked into this and can see that you have just verified your details and have recently increased the selling allowance of your account to 25 items or £750 from 10 items and £700.
Jack Power
I hope you understand that we put selling limit on your account so you will be able to focus on your transactions. Starting out small helps you to become familiar with eBay. It’ll also give you confidence in completing a sale successfully and ensure a positive experience for both you and your buyer.
xxxx
I dont know why they only increased my monthly limit to 750... I told them as I am telling you that my intention was to sell a watch that is valued at 2700?
Jack Power
I'm sorry if the selling allowance increase was not what you hoped for, but I hope you understand that when you request for a higher allowance, it reviews your selling performance.
xxxx
Jack I've been a member of ebay since for 12 years... I don't want to "start out small" in terms of running a business. I just want to sell a watch... Is this not possible?
Jack Power
I do understand that you have been a member since 2002 and I really appreciate it but since your account has not been selling for quite sometime, there is a limit on your account. Now since you want to further have this increases, you may get back to us after 30 days so we can manually review your performance. At this time, I suggest that you list other items.
xxxx
I don't have anything else to list...
Jack Power
If you want to, you may list your item as an auction with the longest duration and who knows, you may get more than the buy it now price you want to sell your item.
xxxx
So if an auction goes above my monthly limit that is acceptable?
Jack Power
Yes xxxx, this is acceptable.
Jack Power
By the way, here's a link with some tips on how to close a sale and to keep your buyers coming back. We want to make sure that you’ll enjoy selling here in our site. You may visit our Help Page at the following link:
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/seller-tips.html
xxxx
Thanks

So seems ebay is not really an option to sell a high end watch unless you start as an auction with no reserve... which could be ok I guess but quite the risk!!

This is really becoming an effort to sell

Wibbs

WTF? Jesus Deegs that ebay guff is a bloody nonsense altogether.

deegs

Wibbs wrote: »

WTF? Jesus Deegs that ebay guff is a bloody nonsense altogether.

Oh But it gets worse....
Yes you can list your watch for auction without reserve but if you intend to ship outside the country you are registered in you must sign away any rights and agrgee to get stiffed if the deal goes south... even if the buyer is a scammer... or at least that is how I read this!

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You need to agree to this to sell worldwide!

Bottom line... ebay suks!

Wibbs

Now I know why I've only ever bought from ebay and have never been tempted to sell on it. No way would I do now, not unless it was a very low sub 100 quid item. Thanks Deegs for the info and general heads up to their practices.

deegs

ozmo wrote: »

Also id guess you will need better photos than those to get the really high bids.

Glad you suggested this. There has been a lot more activity on my watch this week on adverts with the new photo's compared to last week with the old photo's!

Deep Thought

With the eBay stuff, you can change settings about where you are willing to sell.

I have mine configure to sell to EU and North America Only.

It also asks do you want it visible to to other domains like .com, .au etc.

Faith+1

You could try Dawsons Jewellers OP? Or back to Adverts?

deegs

I actually took it off adverts, nothing but hassle...
Had an offer an accepted but your man obviously got cold feet and messed me around...
Its not worth the hassle.
I'll just leave it on Chrono24 but I'm not sure about selling such a watch, I wont make any major effort and look to get my 50€ back in 6 months.

Moffett

Did you email Hartmann's to see if they are interested?