UFC DUBLIN 19th JULY **Start time info in post #1**

MagicIRL

I don't really understand how weight cutting works, but how much would McGregor lose in sweat alone? I've always seen the lads on TUF sitting in the dry saunan before weigh ins.

rolexeagle1

MagicIRL wrote: »

I don't really understand how weight cutting works, but how much would McGregor lose in sweat alone? I've always seen the lads on TUF sitting in the dry saunan before weigh ins.

Its a lot more scientific then that now. They diet from about 12 weeks out, reducing certain food types etc I heard conor talking about no red meat for 10 days at a time, tiny meals, low carbs, loads of water.

If he was 160lbs a week out that 15 to lose before weigh ins.

Does anyone know waht Mc Gregor walks around at

walshb

Mellor wrote: »

McGregor's height makes him look relatively bigger. The same way people think Jon Jones is a massive LHW - when in reality he's pretty normal (and smaller than the bigger 205ers).

When Diego missed weight, he was 8lbs over, that suggests he makes a big cut.

Without sticking then on the scales I can't say with 100% certainty what they were in the cage, but they both dehydrated severely to make 146. Both had that empty look at the weigh-ins. The second Diego was off the scale he was pouring hydralyte down his neck.

Is Diego a bit of a Ricky Hatton/Duran kinda guy? I think Conor looks a weight above the guy. Conor when walking around probably is 160-165 lbs and still looking trim enough. He has the height to carry the extra few lbs. Cuts weight for the fight and then is close to 160 on fight night I would think. Diego looks like a 140 lb man who needs to tone and cut weight better.

MagicIRL

srumball wrote: »

Its a lot more scientific then that now. They diet from about 12 weeks out, reducing certain food types etc I heard conor talking about no red meat for 10 days at a time, tiny meals, low carbs, loads of water.

If he was 160lbs a week out that 15 to lose before weigh ins.

Does anyone know waht Mc Gregor walks around at

But is it hard to lose those 14 pounds? What kind of toll does it take on your body dropping down and then, pressumably, bulking back up before the fight?

I know this is slightly off-topic.

walshb

srumball wrote: »

Does anyone know waht Mc Gregor walks around at

In his documentary he looked to be about 160-165 lbs. That was during normal training and not cutting weight?

walshb

MagicIRL wrote: »

But is it hard to lose those 14 pounds? What kind of toll does it take on your body dropping down and then, pressumably, bulking back up before the fight?

I know this is slightly off-topic.

Very difficult question to answer. Depends on the person. 14 lbs + of weight that should not be on the person in the first place, ala Ricky Hatton, then that is easier to lose. Conor looks like he carries natural walking around weight. That is harder to lose.

Mellor

srumball wrote: »

Its a lot more scientific then that now. They diet from about 12 weeks out, reducing certain food types etc I heard conor talking about no red meat for 10 days at a time, tiny meals, low carbs, loads of water.

If he was 160lbs a week out that 15 to lose before weigh ins.

Does anyone know waht Mc Gregor walks around at

Fighters dieting from 12 weeks out are doing it for fat loss, which is very different to cutting during fight week.

MagicIRL wrote: »

I don't really understand how weight cutting works, but how much would McGregor lose in sweat alone? I've always seen the lads on TUF sitting in the dry saunan before weigh ins.

Most of it is lost over the course of the week before needing to sweat. The sauna or steamroom sweats out the last bit.
As for how much, I'd say close to 20lbs.

That_Guy

Anyone in the mood to get pissed off? Liveline will be talking about MMA/UFC this afternoon.

:pac:

GottaGetGatt

That_Guy wrote: »

Anyone in the mood to get pissed off? Liveline will be talking about MMA/UFC this afternoon.

:pac:

That donkey Ray Darcy had Cathal Pendred on his show this morning.shamefull interviewing.

rolexeagle1

Mellor wrote: »

Fighters dieting from 12 weeks out are doing it for fat loss, which is very different to cutting during fight week.

What about Mike Dolce putting a load of fighters on his diets to help them to cut weight?

Mellor

Oregano_State wrote: »

In one of the build-up vids you can hear Conor tell someone (John Kavanagh I think) that his weight was 72.5kg, which is pretty much bang on 160lbs. This was the week of the fight so I doubt he lost too much more genuine weight, making his cut 14lbs.

Do you have link?
If the was during fight week, he probably already started his cut. Making it more than 14lbs.

walshb wrote: »

Very difficult question to answer. Depends on the person. 14 lbs + of weight that should not be on the person in the first place, ala Ricky Hatton, then that is easier to lose. Conor looks like he carries natural walking around weight. That is harder to lose.

Ricky Hatton weight is lost in the months leading up. We're talking about fight week cut here. In which cases it's easier if you are bigger or leaner. More lean mass = more water.

Lucas Hood

Just watched Pendred vs King there. Ref must have been very close to stopping it in the first round ( I think he should have) but big credit to Pendred going onto win the fight.

Mellor

srumball wrote: »

What about Mike Dolce putting a load of fighters on his diets to help them to cut weight?

That's who I was thinking if with the last post. As I said, that's mostly about eating right to get the fat off. To get in fighting shape. Water cutting is about making the limit on the scales and putting it back on for the cage.
I imagine Dolce also covers that phase with fighters too. Been a while since I read his book.

Tssk

The eruption of noise when King went to sleep was spectacular

That_Guy

Pendred tweet referencing his interview with Ray D'arcy this morning.

Looking forward to doing an interview where I celebrate the biggest win of my career 2 days ago, not defend myself and my sport.

That_Guy

TV3 saying that 600K tuned in on Saturday night. Remarkable number.

Tssk

Pendred better not get interviewed by Tony Donoghue from RTE Sport then, thought it was totally unnecessary for him to tweet Conor after the biggest win of his career, ending with #notasport

MagicIRL

That_Guy wrote: »

TV3 saying that 600K tuned in on Saturday night. Remarkable number.

I was visiting relatives and they all sat down to watch the fight. Most didn't even know the rules!

The chap is my local Fish shop watched it. My buddy's GAA mad Da sat down to watch it. McGregor (in Ireland anyway) has gone the way of Adnerson Silva/Chuck/Randy Couture - He's transended MMA into something else. Only a matter of time before he goes global IMO.

That_Guy

Tssk wrote: »

Pendred better not get interviewed by Tony Donoghue from RTE Sport then, thought it was totally unnecessary for him to tweet Conor after the biggest win of his career, ending with #notasport

Jesus. O'Donoghue is a shambles of an interviewer. Don't like him at all. Entitled to opinion for sure but that's a dick move.

Tssk

Just listening to the D'arcy interview now, Pendred was 2 months behind on rent and owed Airtricity 2 grand coming into the fight! Do the fighters not get some sort of funding from the UFC in the lead up to fight night or is it completely just fight then get your cheque?

Mr. Manager

Mellor wrote: »

Do you have link?
If the was during fight week, he probably already started his cut. Making it more than 14lbs.

John Kavanagh said in Gunni's "Fly On The Wall" doc that Conor had to cut over 7kg with less than a week to go.

Oregano_State

Mellor wrote: »

Do you have link?
If the was during fight week, he probably already started his cut. Making it more than 14lbs.

Do they start dehydrating that far out? I would have thought that would just be from about 48hrs before the weigh-in, with everything before that being genuine weight loss. I'm no expert though, so feel free to point out where I'm wrong.

It's the first thing he says, from about 15s in. To Pendred as it turns out. It's fight week, he says he was 72.8kg that morning, so 160.5lbs.

Hazys

I missed the undercard so i found Pendred's 2nd round on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELyDKYHlGY

MartyMcFly84

Generally the lads diet down in the weeks leading to the fight and cut back on certain foods, stick to a mostly chicken breast diet in the last week with some veg and healthy fats. They drink loads and loads of water and then restrict it in the final 48-24 hours.

The body is used to having lots of water so it continues to flush it out after the restriction. Generally you would look to "cut" about 5Kg from dehydration/sweat but its different with everyone, body comp, size etc.

Conor has made this weight multiple times so has his personal method down.

peejay1986

Tssk wrote: »

Just listening to the D'arcy interview now, Pendred was 2 months behind on rent and owed Airtricity 2 grand coming into the fight! Do the fighters not get some sort of funding from the UFC in the lead up to fight night or is it completely just fight then get your cheque?

When they fight they get paid. The idea would be that you'd make it last but the reality would be you'd have sponsors to cover the shortfall. Was a bit of a shame for Cathal, financially in particular, that he wasn't on the main card as I'm sure he'll have lost out on sponsorships because of it. Nonetheless he'll be getting good offers now so should be fine on the rent going forward. The bonus won't have hurt either

amkin25

peejay1986 wrote: »

When they fight they get paid. The idea would be that you'd make it last but the reality would be you'd have sponsors to cover the shortfall. Was a bit of a shame for Cathal, financially in particular, that he wasn't on the main card as I'm sure he'll have lost out on sponsorships because of it. Nonetheless he'll be getting good offers now so should be fine on the rent going forward. The bonus won't have hurt either

Though having Pendred on the prelims made the whole event go off so well i think,the place was practically full from the first fight with people in to see Holohan,Pendred and Seery the atmosphere was building from early on think that was a smart move in the end.

Vince135792003

Dana should give Cathal Pendred another bonus after that interview with Darcy. Really sneering interview by him and Pendred did very well under the circumstances.

amkin25

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Dana should give Cathal Pendred another bonus after that interview with D'arcy. Really sneering interview by him and Pendred did very well under the circumstances.

Would loved to have heard that,is there anywhere online you could pick up a recording of it?
Just got it having a listen now.

EuskalHerria

For anyone else, here's a link.

http://www.todayfm.com/UFC-fighter-Cathal-Pendred

ASOT

EuskalHerria wrote: »

For anyone else, here's a link.

http://www.todayfm.com/UFC-fighter-Cathal-Pendred

Its nearly as bad as joe duffy all them years ago, all it was missing was darcy claiming people have been killed left right and centre.