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28-02-2014 7:40am#1
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Why??
Why not? Flying is a marvel and planes are cool - and who wouldn't want to fly on one of the world's most iconic and identifiable airliners, and go to New York or somewhere in the process?
OP, I flew LHR-SFO on a 744 for my honeymoon. It started out as a bad day's travel, as that flight was cancelled due to a strike in BA. We were booked to fly as far as Boston on BA and then to San Fran on United, but then our connection from Cork to LHR was late and we missed the flight to Boston
(Now the happy bit) Then, our direct SFO flight was reinstated, and because practically all the passengers were on other flights, the plane was half empty and we got a whole middle row to ourselves. As we were honeymooners, we got fed champagne and orange juice, and I spent ages chatting about rugby and aviation to a really sound cabin attendant from Wales called Rhodri. While we were chatting, the captain came down for a wander and I was chatting to him for 5 minutes. Really down-to-earth, no-nonsense guy.
To top it off, we got to move to window seats on the left for the end of the flight where we came in really high over the Golden Gate, then turned in the southern part of the bay for the final approach.
Haven't topped that yet!
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Why not? Flying is a marvel and planes are cool - and who wouldn't want to fly on one of the world's most iconic and identifiable airliners, and go to New York or somewhere in the process?
OP, I flew LHR-SFO on a 744 for my honeymoon. It started out as a bad day's travel, as that flight was cancelled due to a strike in BA. We were booked to fly as far as Boston on BA and then to San Fran on United, but then our connection from Cork to LHR was late and we missed the flight to Boston
(Now the happy bit) Then, our direct SFO flight was reinstated, and because practically all the passengers were on other flights, the plane was half empty and we got a whole middle row to ourselves. As we were honeymooners, we got fed champagne and orange juice, and I spent ages chatting about rugby and aviation to a really sound cabin attendant from Wales called Rhodri. While we were chatting, the captain came down for a wander and I was chatting to him for 5 minutes. Really down-to-earth, no-nonsense guy.
To top it off, we got to move to window seats on the left for the end of the flight where we came in really high over the Golden Gate, then turned in the southern part of the bay for the final approach.
Haven't topped that yet!
I live in SF and never get tired of this approach. I flew in yesterday and had a bizarre approach where we cut down the coast, across downtown, down the bay to Oakland then back across. Beautiful.
OP- BA and virgin are your best bet, both have pretty substantial 747 fleets. Air France, Lufthansa have some as well.
I had the luck recently of 747 San Francisco- JFK with united, I think the aircraft was being repositioned0 -
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Beat me to it MYOB.
Perhaps we should mention that in the small print the aircraft type can change at the last minute. Believe me I have seen it! Luckily not very often but passengers turning around and walking off because it wasnt the aircraft type they expected.0 -
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This has being on my bucket list for many years
Finally this year I get to fly on a 747 for two separate return journeys!
AMS-MEX in two weeks and then LHR to SFO in May
Cant wait
I don't know what it is about the 747, I just once in my life wish to travel on one but i'm not too pushed about the A380, its strange0 -
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Interesting to see the responses that a simple question of “why” elicits, considering that this is an aviation forum, its only obvious that people have a desire to fly on certain aircraft types, but for me the question of “why” still remains, is it because its going out service, or because of its uniqueness, size, comfort, technology or because you can!
My fascination with the B747 started many years ago when I got to fly DUB-SNN in EI-BED, my last flight in a B747 was a -400 BBJ with full VVIP interior and 3 levels, my next will be in a -8F if I get the required permission. I have flown in the –SP, 100,200,300 and 400 series with about a dozen airlines.
Unfortunately in most cases the aircraft is showing its age, the interior generally sucks with poor entertainment systems, old tattered looks and certainly for a number of airlines, extremely poor legroom.
So if you just want to close a tick on your bucket list, go for it, but for comfort, the older 747’s shouldn’t be your first choice, unless of course they are BBJ's 0 -
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Interesting to see the responses that a simple question of “why” elicits, considering that this is an aviation forum, its only obvious that people have a desire to fly on certain aircraft types, but for me the question of “why” still remains, is it because its going out service, or because of its uniqueness, size, comfort, technology or because you can!
My fascination with the B747 started many years ago when I got to fly DUB-SNN in EI-BED, my last flight in a B747 was a -400 BBJ with full VVIP interior and 3 levels, my next will be in a -8F if I get the required permission. I have flown in the –SP, 100,200,300 and 400 series with about a dozen airlines.
Unfortunately in most cases the aircraft is showing its age, the interior generally sucks with poor entertainment systems, old tattered looks and certainly for a number of airlines, extremely poor legroom.
So if you just want to close a tick on your bucket list, go for it, but for comfort, the older 747’s shouldn’t be your first choice, unless of course they are BBJ's
Jaysus id say that was something else! Did you take any pics?0 -
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I got a present of a flight on a 747 for my 10th birthday - back then Aer Lingus did a ticket for a child for around £15 one way DUB-SNN. So I was brought to the airport, got brought on board as an 'unaccompanied child' and was met off the flight by a member of Shannon's Airport Police who brought me out to be met by my Grandparents.
It was only a 25 minute flight but it was great
(I've flown on them since!)0 -
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brandon_flowers wrote: »If you are specifically looking for a 747 flight experience then you might as well go for the 747-8I. Lufthansa use it on Frankfurt to Hong Kong, Seoul, Mexico City, LAX and a few more routes. The missus has been on it in business to Hong Kong, said it was amazing. Haven't made it myself yet but it is on the bucket list along with the 787.
The 748 will be around for a long time, should get the older models in first before they are retired. 0 -
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The airline that I work for has operated about 30 B747's over the years, so I have some great memories of the aircraft, and of course some not so good memories, such as sitting in the back of a full aircraft with no air conditioning on the ground ...ugh, certainly no fun. On the fun side tech stop in Shannon, flight attendants got catering to deliver Irish newspapers or jumpseting and watching crew taxiing around JFK in winter and wondering how on earth they found their way around, the place is a mess, all concrete no grass anywhere so at least for me impossible to see taxiways.... Or having my parents onboard when one by one 5 flight attendants walked down one by one and introduced themselves as my wife or the first time that my parents ever flew in First Class, thanks to these same flight attendants or the first time that I watched a landing on RWY23 in LHR from the jump seat. Or sitting with Boeing negotiating the purchase of a -8 BBJ.....
From a performance point of view, the older versions were really limited, in a lot of cases the takeoff performance was calculated on 115% of the all engine takeof performance, so you would see them scraping off the end of the runway! as for stopping from V1, well if the simulator is anything to base this on, the stopping would be interesting
I used to love flying the B747 classic simulator as it was loaded with the old Hong Kong approach, that was so much fun in good weather
As a kid camping in Shannon watching Aer Lingua, Pan Am, TWA, Flying Tigers etc, I always dreamt of flying the B747 and Gulfstreams....... At least i got to fly one 0 -
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Interesting to see the responses that a simple question of “why” elicits, considering that this is an aviation forum, its only obvious that people have a desire to fly on certain aircraft types, but for me the question of “why” still remains, is it because its going out service, or because of its uniqueness, size, comfort, technology or because you can!
My fascination with the B747 started many years ago when I got to fly DUB-SNN in EI-BED, my last flight in a B747 was a -400 BBJ with full VVIP interior and 3 levels, my next will be in a -8F if I get the required permission. I have flown in the –SP, 100,200,300 and 400 series with about a dozen airlines.
Unfortunately in most cases the aircraft is showing its age, the interior generally sucks with poor entertainment systems, old tattered looks and certainly for a number of airlines, extremely poor legroom.
So if you just want to close a tick on your bucket list, go for it, but for comfort, the older 747’s shouldn’t be your first choice, unless of course they are BBJ's
Wow, that sounds like an experience to live for. How did you come by getting on the -400 BBJ? Were you flying it or were you just visiting on ground?0 -
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After years of long distance travel I was able to use some points last year to upgrade myself to the upper deck of a Qantas 747-400. Fantastic experience, mainly because it was my second time ever in business class and the service/seat was great, but also because I've realised the 747 is one of the last remaining birds to still make you feel like take off is exciting and powerful.
Take off in a modern long range twin like the 777s and A330s that make up the majority of fleets these days is a subdued experience, and very much the same in an A380. But the 747-400 still feels like it has to work to get itself in the air and this translates into a much more dramatic and fun experience, well for flying nerds like us anyway!
The upper deck actually felt a bit cramped and small compared to what I thought it would, especially compared to the huge spacious A380. Even downstairs, a 747 almost feels smaller then a 777 due to its 60's design.
Best old 747 memory is of going to Orlando with BA when I was 10 and being shown around the flight deck of a 747-300. The pilot showed me a postcard of another 747 and asked could I tell the difference between our plane and the postcard- I couldnt, but when he pointed closely I could see the RR logos on the engines which he said were different to our Pratt and Whitney powered 747. Must have been a pain to BA to operate the one type of plane with two types of engines! I remember there being a huge pull down cinema screen in the cabin too 0 -
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Visited one on the ground, flew in anotherHow did you come by getting on the -400 BBJ? Were you flying it or were you just visiting on ground?
Most likely caused by DERATED thrust, the 777 can happily takeoff using about 45% of its available thrust if the weight is low.Take off in a modern long range twin like the 777s and A330s that make up the majority of fleets these days is a subdued experience,0 -
Visited one on the ground, flew in another
Most likely caused by DERATED thrust, the 777 can happily takeoff using about 45% of its available thrust if the weight is low.
Is this the same as on an a340? Was on one a couple of weeks ago (iberia - chicago->madrid) and not only was the take over pretty quiet, the climb out was really slow, seemed to take forever to get to 10000 far less cruising0 -
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