Reccomend me a Wax/Polish

pudzey101

Hi iv been looking through "the beadophiles" and want to get a good wax , what guys would u recommend for a 1997 Honda




Edit : Polish and Wax , Clayed the car today so want to give good polish and seal it off with a wax the weekend , cheers.

vectra

Britemax Vantage for showshine
Or Collinite 845 for durability Plus gloss.

pudzey101

vectra wrote: »

Britemax Vantage for showshine
Or Collinite 845 for durability Plus gloss.

expensive taste vectra :eek:


anything in particular especially for black cars or is that a load of bull :P

dredg

pudzey101 wrote: »

expensive taste vectra :eek:


anything in particular especially for black cars or is that a load of bull :P

You did say good, never said anything about cheap

I personally don't think a colour specific wax will make as much difference as prepping the car properly before you wax it. Maybe a glaze like poorboys black hole before you wax?

The Diddakoi

Autosmart Carnauba Gold Wax, can't beat it for black cars. Lovely smear free finish.

Ded_Zebra

Personally I would put Finis-wax on it. The key to make it look well though is in the prep. You'll need to clay the surface first and probably polish it.

pudzey101

pudzey101 wrote: »

anything in particular especially for black cars or is that a load of bull :P

This caught my eye when I was browsing around last night.

http://www.detailingshed.com/waxes/253-chemical-guys-black-wax.html



Expensive, but does make you wonder if it'd actually really help a black car get that deep, dark gloss you always want on a black car.


It got a favourable review on AutoGeek but nothing overly in-depth. My curiousity is getting to me, though.

vectra

pudzey101 wrote: »

expensive taste vectra :eek:


anything in particular especially for black cars or is that a load of bull :P

Btitemax may seem dear but it lasts for ages.
The Collinite is cheap as chips and lasts longer than ages

pudzey101

would anyone reccomend the autoglym deep ultra shine , lot of my friends with black ( dark cololoured ) car swear by it and then seal it off with a gloss protection right ?


im new to this external detailing ATM ,

I also prepped the car very well , Few washes , and clayed twice to be on the safe side

dylbert

pudzey101 wrote: »

would anyone reccomend the autoglym deep ultra shine , lot of my friends with black ( dark cololoured ) car swear by it and then seal it off with a gloss protection right ?


im new to this external detailing ATM ,

I also prepped the car very well , Few washes , and clayed twice to be on the safe side

I'd go with AG Super Resin Polish and Extra Gloss Protection, I have this combo on my black car, gives great results, gave the car two coats of SRP and three of EGP back in October and it's still holding up well, SRP does a great job of hiding swirls.

From what I've read Deep Ultra Shine is more of an all in one product and doesn't last as long.

How it looked in October.

pudzey101

Nice IS200 Dylbert , would u go with the SRP over the ultra deep shine ?

its this one right ?



which ever would cover/hide swirls i defiantly need lol

nd

Interesting test of the Collinite stuff(left) v a couple of others. Not that that test might mean anything. I know nothing about waxes ect.

pudzey101

Also heard the Ultra Deep shine doesnt "Bond" with the gloss protection dont know how true that is , yeah that collinite looks the buisness !! :P

dredg

pudzey101 wrote: »

Nice IS200 Dylbert , would u go with the SRP over the ultra deep shine ?

its this one right ?



which ever would cover/hide swirls i defiantly need lol

SRP will almost certainly remove anything you put on prior to it. Usually it's wash, clay, SRP, EGP.

pudzey101

so would u guys go with the SRP over the deep ultra shine oh yeah il make sure to get before and after pics

dredg

pudzey101 wrote: »

so would u guys go with the SRP over the deep ultra shine oh yeah il make sure to get before and after pics

From the autoglym site:

Ultra Deep Shine is an 'all-in-one' formula that polishes and protects in one. For this reason Ultra Deep Shine should not be followed by Extra Gloss Protection or High Definition Wax.

If you out SRP over the deep shine, the SRP will strip it off. From the looks of things you either want SRP+EPG or just Ultra Deep Shine.

Ded_Zebra

pudzey101 wrote: »

so would u guys go with the SRP over the deep ultra shine oh yeah il make sure to get before and after pics

Do get HD wax or extra golss protection to put on top of it otherwise you'll be wasting your time the first time you wash it, all the srp will be removed.

dredg

pudzey101 wrote: »

so would u guys go with the SRP over the deep ultra shine oh yeah il make sure to get before and after pics

And I've just realised that my flu-addled brain has been misreading your question as "would you put SRP on top of ultra deep shine". Sorry.

I've not used ultra deep shine and it looks like it gets mixed reviews. I have used SRP and it offers very little protection - you need to top it off with a wax or sealant, whereas ultra deep shine is an all-in-one that doesn't need any additional protection. I quite like SRP+EGP as it looks good and doesn't cost the earth.

pudzey101

Think I'll go ahead with the srp and egp the weekend :) thanks for all the help lads. Will make sure I get before and after pics too

Cogsy88

Can anybody recommend a polish for a white car. I always miss patches. Can you buy a polish that's not white?

dredg

Cogsy88 wrote: »

Can anybody recommend a polish for a white car. I always miss patches. Can you buy a polish that's not white?

I always miss patches and my car isn't white. I just give it 2 or 3 coats, I figure I'll get it all that way.

HJL

pudzey101 wrote: »

Think I'll go ahead with the srp and egp

Good call. I have AG UDS and while it does a decent job as a filler polish, it has many reports of not liking a LSP over it. So SRP makes more sense as it is less fussy what gets put over it.

Although last weekend I put UDS on half of my bootlid and then waxed over it with Dodo Juice Blue Velvet with no noticeable negative effects. I also have waxed over it with Poorboy's Natty Paste Wax in the past and again it was fine.

At the time of purchasing I got swayed by the UDS as being marketed for black cars, if I was to buy again I would get SRP.

dylbert

pudzey101 wrote: »

Think I'll go ahead with the srp and egp the weekend :) thanks for all the help lads. Will make sure I get before and after pics too

The trick with these products is to use them sparingly. Apply a coin size blob of SRP to a foam applicator and work it in straight lines, as the applicator soaks up the SRP you'll need to use less, it shouldn't take much to buff off if you don't use too much. I usually do 2 coats but not sure if it makes any difference.

With EGP it's even more important to use sparingly, I find the best way is to use a spray bottle and a microfiber applicator, the nozzle on the SRP bottle makes it hard to control how much you use. One spray into the applicator is enough to do a panel, might need two sprays for the bonnet and roof, don't be tempted to use more or it will take ages to buff off. Just wipe it on lightly in straight strokes, it doesn't need to be worked in hard. Leave it a couple of hours to cure, could take longer in this weather, then buff off with a micro fiber.

I usually aplly a second coat of EGP the next day and a third coat a week later, EGP needs 24h to cure between coats.

Hope this helps, the main thing is to use them lightly, a little goes a long way and makes it allot easier to remove.

opinionated3

It's a Honda. ....a Japanese car so chances are it's a soft paint. Therefore you should be looking at polishes with minor abrasives (dodo juice lime prime for example) with a corresponding finishing pad if your machine polishing. Top that with something like dodo juice purple haze or cg Black and you should be good. Just remember the key is to prep correctly. .... The wax will only enhance your efforts

pudzey101

Today i bought myself some Super Resin and Extra Gloss polish/wax

My question is regarding the application of these products. Do I just apply it directly to a Microfibre cloth and polish, and then buff it off with another microfibre cloth?

What way do you guys advise of applying the Autoglym products?

Is there a specific method of applying and a specific cloth/applicator I should be using?

Any advice/opinions much appreciated!

Zoney

I applied with a microfibre cloth, then polished off with a fluffy one. Use separate cloths for the two products. The polish quickly turns to a haze and you buff it then, but the EGP actually says on it to leave for 30 mins before buffing it. It maybe doesn't take quite that long, but you'll see yourself it applies quite wet and dries slower than the polish. Also even applying sparingly, it has a wet look as you apply (more so than the polish) so with a good eye at the right angle, easy enough to check you've coated reasonably evenly.

Enjoyed applying both of them myself - the results were pretty amazing (brother called over and said it looks like new - that's for an 9 yr old car with some obvious scratches even after the work!)

dylbert

pudzey101 wrote: »

Today i bought myself some Super Resin and Extra Gloss polish/wax

My question is regarding the application of these products. Do I just apply it directly to a Microfibre cloth and polish, and then buff it off with another microfibre cloth?

What way do you guys advise of applying the Autoglym products?

Is there a specific method of applying and a specific cloth/applicator I should be using?

Any advice/opinions much appreciated!

Have a read of my post a few back, that how I use them and seems to work well.

dinneenp

Instead of posting a new thread just wondering Deri G on thoughts on Turtle Wax Zip Wax please?

Curran

dinneenp wrote: »

Instead of posting a new thread just wondering Deri G on thoughts on Turtle Wax Zip Wax please?

Rubbish

Paddy@CIRL

Deleted User wrote: »

This caught my eye when I was browsing around last night.

http://www.detailingshed.com/waxes/253-chemical-guys-black-wax.html



Expensive, but does make you wonder if it'd actually really help a black car get that deep, dark gloss you always want on a black car.


It got a favourable review on AutoGeek but nothing overly in-depth. My curiousity is getting to me, though.

I use CG Black Wax regularly. I don't think it's particularly durable (it's not a six month wax for example) but it looks smashing on a black car IMO. The below was after just a wash, coat of CG Blacklight and coat single coat of CG Black Wax. No deter, clay or polish involved.

Curran

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

No deter, clay or polish involved.

Perhpas not, but the paintwork is very well cared for - so it wouldnt have been needed.

:P Now the Terms & Conditions: Not many people can expect those result from simply applying CGs Blacklight and CGs Black Wax onto any surface....yes they will improved the appearance, but preparation is a must for results shown above!

vectra

Curran wrote: »

Perhpas not, but the paintwork is very well cared for - so it wouldnt have been needed.

:P Now the Terms & Conditions: Not many people can expect those result from simply applying CGs Blacklight and CGs Black Wax onto any surface....yes they will improved the appearance, but preparation is a must for results shown above!

In a nutshell.

It would be totally impossible to get those results even on a new black bmw out of the dealers.

@ Paddy.
No cheating

Paddy@CIRL

You'd be surprised how not great the paint on my car is, would love to have it re-painted

Curran

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

You'd be surprised how not great the paint on my car is, would love to have it re-painted

I'd be willing to be a large sum of money that the paint on your car is in the top 5% in the country....for a daily driver!!

Anyone who likes to keep their car as well as perhaps 10-20 people on this forum, want to have their cars re-painted....with lots of clear coat!!

challengemaster

Curran wrote: »

with lots of clear coat!!

A few millimetres! :pac: