Myths being thought as fact?

Lago

I usually try to keep quiet about the fact that I go to the gym and enjoy learning about and practicing nutrition but the other day after a football training session in the gym, I was talking to two friends of mine, one of whom is studying Sport Science at university. We started talking about exercise and nutrition and I did my usual thing of playing dumb until my friend doing Sports Science just started naming off "facts" that I was almost certain are myths or hadn't been proven to be true. The main ones I can remember were:

• The 30 minute anabolic window
• Your body can only assume a small amount of protein in one go and the rest is excreted out
• You should be eating 5 small meals a day to boost your metabolism

Now since he is actually being taught this for a fairly high up qualification, it made me question what I had learned myself out of my own personal interest and spare time. However, a quick search online (which I know isn't the best way to do this) shows that these are in fact myths, or at the least aren't proven so how can they be taught as fact which needs to be learned off in third level education?

I mean I know all about the poor level of some personal trainers and have been unlucky enough to see it first hand at my local gym but surely this can't be their fault if they are just being thought the wrong stuff in order to earn their qualification. Am I missed something here?

COH

Welcome to the fitness industry

cletus van damme

Lago wrote: »

I mean I know all about the poor level of some personal trainers and have been unlucky enough to see it first hand at my local gym but surely this can't be their fault if they are just being thought the wrong stuff in order to earn their qualification. Am I missed something here?

not missing anything but it is odd that you are upset about it.
It's not just fitness , it's every industry.

i work in IT and I run into many well paid charlatans who "know" loads.
My job brings me into touch with other careers mostly financial servcies based and they're full of bull**** merchants too.

Leads me to believe - everybody (bar me) is crap.
I don't blame them - they have to eat so have to make a living somehow.

Lago

I'm not really upset about, I was just slightly surprised. I'm doing IT in college and while I feel some of the stuff we learn is absolutely worthless, I don't think we've ever been thought something which was just flat out untrue.

I just can't understand the point of it when it would be probably easier to just tell them the correct facts.

cletus van damme

Lago wrote: »

I'm not really upset about, I was just slightly surprised. I'm doing IT in college and while I feel some of the stuff we learn is absolutely worthless, I don't think we've ever been thought something which was just flat out untrue.

I just can't understand the point of it when it would be probably easier to just tell them the correct facts.

I was only in jest - I didn't think you were crying about it.:)

Theresalwaysone

Context. You're lacking context.

30 min anabolic window is probably true for high level athletes who want optimal recovery and/or protein synthesis.

5 meals a day is probably true for athletes trying to build muscle. Id say it offers a hormonal benefit to an athlete in terms of insulin/amino acid profile/availability in blood.

Body metabolising a small amount of protein at any one time is one Im not sure about. Ive heard it said its untrue here and elsewhere but protein is just a macronutrient and Id imagine the body would try not to waste it.

Mellor

Just because he was repeating these myths/facts, its doesn't mean he was being thought exactly that. Maybe he just picked it up somewhere else and added it to his "fitness knowledge".
Or, he could of easily picked something up wrong. A lot of these myths come from incorrectly interpreted studies.
i.e. A study on the absorption rate of various proteins for 30 mins PWO = 30 minute window, or
Athletes/BBs eating many meals due to higher intakes = 5 meals is best for all.

aoife161

Some good reading here concerning those myths

http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html

nice_guy80

Bioscience.

Do you even lift?

JJayoo

Irish people refer to all large black birds as crows when in fact we don't actually have crows in this country. We have Jackdaws, Ravens Rooks and Hooded crows but no actual crows, Knowledge gains.

Alf Veedersane

JJayoo wrote: »

Irish people refer to all large black birds as crows when in fact we don't actually have crows in this country. We have Jackdaws, Ravens Rooks and Hooded crows but no actual crows, Knowledge gains.

I call castles 'rooks'.

Alf Veedersane

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I call castles 'rooks'.

Checkmate

JJayoo

Never play chess with the bird version of Rooks, it will not end well.

Also all Irish people seem to call swedes turnips. Turnips = bad, Swedes = nom nom

Alf Veedersane

JJayoo wrote: »

Never play chess with the bird version of Rooks, it will not end well

Yeah, they move all over the place and that's against the rules.

You'd be disqualified.

Carlos Orange

JJayoo wrote: »

Irish people refer to all large black birds as crows when in fact we don't actually have crows in this country. We have Jackdaws, Ravens Rooks and Hooded crows but no actual crows, Knowledge gains.

Hooded crows aren't crows?

JJayoo

psinno wrote: »

Hooded crows aren't crows?

In the UK there is a bird called called a crow. it would be like us referring to all small birds as robins... I'm gonna start doing that.

Google tells me they are all from the crow family.

Over 40 grams of protein in a good sized crow nom nom

Alf Veedersane

The blue tit doesn't have blue boobs.

They're green.


Bird games are fun.

JJayoo

I like great tits

runawaybishop

JJayoo wrote: »

Irish people refer to all large black birds as crows when in fact we don't actually have crows in this country. We have Jackdaws, Ravens Rooks and Hooded crows but no actual crows, Knowledge gains.

Crow is a general term for the corvus family, there is no branch that is only called "crow". When people in Ireland speak of crows they are generally referring to the jackdaw branch. The grey crow (hooded) is actually what most people in Europe would refer to as a crow. The Crow was also a 94 movie based on a 89 comic. I have not read the comic but i watched the movie a million times when I was younger. There is a reboot/remake coming but its buggered with legal issues supposedly.

Stench Blossoms

JJayoo wrote: »

I like great tits

You are a big tit.

Alf Veedersane

runawaybishop wrote: »

Crow is a general term for the corvus family, there is no branch that is only called "crow". When people in Ireland speak of crows they are generally referring to the jackdaw branch. The grey crow (hooded) is actually what most people in Europe would refer to as a crow. The Crow was also a 94 movie based on a 89 comic. I have not read the comic but i watched the movie a million times when I was younger. There is a reboot/remake coming but its buggered with legal issues supposedly.

Another myth being thought as fact.

It's 102 minutes long. If you watched it a million times back to back, from the day you were born, you'd be 194 now

runawaybishop

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Another myth being thought as fact.

It's 102 minutes long. If you watched it a million times back to back, from the day you were born, you'd be 194 now

I watched it simultaneously on multiple TVs!

JJayoo

runawaybishop wrote: »

Crow is a general term for the corvus family, there is no branch that is only called "crow". When people in Ireland speak of crows they are generally referring to the jackdaw branch. The grey crow (hooded) is actually what most people in Europe would refer to as a crow. The Crow was also a 94 movie based on a 89 comic. I have not read the comic but i watched the movie a million times when I was younger. There is a reboot/remake coming but its buggered with legal issues supposedly.

Heard that, budget has been slashed so they have to used painted robins instead.

runawaybishop

JJayoo wrote: »

Heard that, budget has been slashed so they have to used painted robins instead.

Sad news indeed. Reminds of my item in the war when we used to substitute mud for coffee and dandruff for sugar.

JJayoo

Is that you Baldrick?

runawaybishop

Yes Darling.

Alf Veedersane

runawaybishop wrote: »

Sad news indeed. Reminds of my item in the war when we used to substitute mud for coffee and dandruff for sugar.

Black or with a drop of saliva?

IvyTheTerrible

JJayoo wrote: »

Never play chess with the bird version of Rooks, it will not end well.

Also all Irish people seem to call swedes turnips. Turnips = bad, Swedes = nom nom

Aren't swedes just a variety of turnip?

Hanley

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Aren't swedes just a variety of turnip?

Nah, they're scandinavian.

GHOST MGG

I shagged a blonde swede once..she was like a bag of turnips in bed...im confused now.

Alf Veedersane

GHOST MGG wrote: »

I shagged a blonde swede once..she was like a bag of turnips in bed...im confused now.

Because you're a cabbage?

Oryx

I love you guys, I really do. But I got to save you from yourselves.