Kavari build maybe?

Sparks43

1. What is your budget? €450ish
2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?Some gaming ,media streaming,Multi monitor setup
3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?Have case Haf 922 that needs to be filled,And some hard drives
5. Do you need a monitor? No

5a. If yes, what size do you need. N/A

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future?

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? small SSD / DVD-burner / WiFi card / Universal card reader (to front).


7. Are you willing to try overclocking? No, not required at the moment.

8. How can you pay? Credit card/Paypal/

9. When are you purchasing? ASAp

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? N/a.




This build has been on the backburner for too long so time for action

I am planing to go dowm the amd Apu route (Fm2+ Board and kavari processor) so ram has to be as fast as possible

At least 5 HDDs(not inc ssd) will be put into this build over time 3 i have already.SSD for os can be small 60gb as i will be using the hdds for storage.

I have a rough idea of a build but i would like some fresh ideas also if there is a AM3 build with seperate gpu then i am willing to look at it.

No intel though:pac:

Thanks in advance

SterlingArcher

Sparks43 wrote: »

1. What is your budget? €450ish
2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?Some gaming ,media streaming,Multi monitor setup
3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?Have case Haf 922 that needs to be filled,And some hard drives
5. Do you need a monitor? No

5a. If yes, what size do you need. N/A

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future?

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? small SSD / DVD-burner / WiFi card / Universal card reader (to front).


7. Are you willing to try overclocking? No, not required at the moment.

8. How can you pay? Credit card/Paypal/

9. When are you purchasing? ASAp

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? N/a.




This build has been on the backburner for too long so time for action

I am planing to go dowm the amd Apu route (Fm2+ Board and kavari processor) so ram has to be as fast as possible

At least 5 HDDs(not inc ssd) will be put into this build over time 3 i have already.SSD for os can be small 60gb as i will be using the hdds for storage.

I have a rough idea of a build but i would like some fresh ideas also if there is a AM3 build with seperate gpu then i am willing to look at it.

No intel though:pac:

Thanks in advance

Seen a guy on adverts( nothing to do with me) selling CPU, mobo, PSU and Gpu for ,300.
AMD.

Maybe have a look see.

Sparks43

SterlingArcher wrote: »

Seen a guy on adverts( nothing to do with me) selling CPU, mobo, PSU and Gpu for ,300.
AMD.

Maybe have a look see.

Had a search and nothing showed up.But as im building myself i would prefer to use new parts so if i mess up i have no one to blame but myself.

Sparks43

This is what im thinking so far

BloodBath

Looks decent. Board is probably a bit overkill and I'd definitely add a better cpu cooler.

Something like the 212 evo.

Maybe opt for a better psu as well. The reviews I seen for those were pretty poor.

What resolution will you be playing at?

Only problem is that it's verging on fx6300 + cheap dedicated graphics which would be a better option imo.

Sparks43

Cheers m8


Will be playing at 720p but would like to be able to upgrade monitor on future so higher would be better

Would the AMD A-Series A10-7850K be much better ?

PSU dumped any recommendations.


I would be willing to look at the fx6300 if you have time to spec one up.

BloodBath

No problem.

Costs a bit more but is significantly better.

Item|Price
AMD FX-6300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€94.48
ASUS R7260X-DC2OC-1GD5 DirectCU II OC, Radeon R7 260X, 1GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€106.04
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1333, CL9|€61.99
Corsair VS Serie VS550, Non-Modular, 80+|€45.98
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€58.46
ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0, AM3+, ATX|€54.84
Shipping|€11.99
Total|€433.78

Sparks43

BloodBath wrote: »

No problem.

Costs a bit more but is significantly better.

Item|Price
AMD FX-6300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€94.48
ASUS R7260X-DC2OC-1GD5 DirectCU II OC, Radeon R7 260X, 1GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€106.04
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1333, CL9|€61.99
Corsair VS Serie VS550, Non-Modular, 80+|€45.98
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€58.46
ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0, AM3+, ATX|€54.84
Shipping|€11.99
Total|€433.78

Looks good but neither the board/psu will take the amount of sata connections i need.

1 Dvd drive 1 ssd and 5 Hard drives is what i plan to have at the end of the build.

Thinking about it i might splash the extra on a 700w psu

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Socket+AM3/68994/AMD+FX-8320+Prozessor%2C+Boxed%2C+Sockel+AM3%2B.article

Is this much better as a cpu?


As for Gpu is there much benifit in the extra Gb


http://www.hardwareversand.de/2048+MB/150728/Sapphire+Radeon+R7+260X%2C+2GB+GDDR5%2C+DVI%2C+HDMI%2C+DisplayPort%2C+lite+retail.article



Thanks for all the help i am a picky sod but i really appreciate the advice

BloodBath

The 8320 is significantly better yes. You won't need an upgrade for quite some time with that especially if you overclock it. It's a power hungry beast though once overclocked.

You're going to find it hard getting that many sata connections on most boards. My advice would be ditch the dvd drive or one of your smaller hdd's. Afaik you can get pci sata cards if you need more.

No benefit for the extra 1gb of memory for 720p. I wouldn't bother with a 2gb card until you upgrade to a 1080p monitor.

That 260x will walk almost any game on max settings at 720p though.

Sparks43

BloodBath wrote: »

The 8320 is significantly better yes. You won't need an upgrade for quite some time with that especially if you overclock it. It's a power hungry beast though once overclocked.

You're going to find it hard getting that many sata connections on most boards. My advice would be ditch the dvd drive or one of your smaller hdd's. Afaik you can get pci sata cards if you need more.

No benefit for the extra 1gb of memory for 720p. I wouldn't bother with a 2gb card until you upgrade to a 1080p monitor.

That 260x will walk almost any game on max settings at 720p though.

With the 2gb being only 15 quid dearer i would have no problem stretching the budget a little bit as i have access to a 1080p monitor in a friends to use for testing and general showing off :pac:

Is it a good card though?

Also if an Alienware Pc has a 2gb gpu then i sure as heck want one in my bad boy.:D

BloodBath

Well if you don't mind spending the 15 extra. The Asus card has a superior cooler though which will run cooler, quieter and should allow a higher overclock.

The 2gb 260x is pushing it near 270 prices.

If upgrading to 1080p I'd also upgrade the card to at least an R9 270 2gb.

Sparks43

http://www.hardwareversand.de/2048+MB/125846/ASUS+R9270-DC2OC-2GD5+DirectCU+II+OC%2C+Radeon+R9+270%2C+2GB+GDDR5.article

Something like this?

As for psu if the processor is much hungrier

http://www.hardwareversand.de/700+-+800+Watts/63630/Corsair+Builder+Series+CX750+80PLUS+Bronze%2C+750W.article


I dont mind waiting another week and then go up a little in budget.

TerrorFirmer

PSU is way overkill. A good quality 450w will be fine.

yawhat!

I'd definitly be going for the 270. You could cut the Ram down to 4GB to save 30 euro and purchase another 4GB when you have some extra cash.

Same goes with the SSD and get a GTX 760 and get the SSD when you have more cash.

I'd be going down the route if you didn't mind upgrading it over time.

Also a 500 Watt is plenty for that system. Even 400 Watt would be plenty.

Sparks43

Ooops think i just blew the roof off the budget.:D

BloodBath

Sorry I forgot to say I got the prices through www.geizhals.de

That ram kit is overpriced. You can get an 8gb kit through geizhals for around €60. Slower cheaper ram will make no difference once you're using a graphics card.

I'd disagree with 400-500w being enough for the psu as well. Maybe for the parts listed but if you were to overclock the cpu and possibly upgrade the card further down the line I'd be looking to get a decent 600w like the corsair cx600.

That mainboard is complete overkill as well. Your pushing the total budget into intel territory.

For the €260 that board and cpu costs you could get an intel xeon + board which would mop the floor with it at almost everything.

Sparks43

I have put all the items through the geizhals site.


Really tempted now by the AM3+ route so think i will sleep on it and see what i can squeeze out of the piggybank in the morning.

Thanks to all for the advice.


On another matter do Alienware accept Paypal

Sparks43

All ordered and done

Bloodbath please dont kill me

Went through both options and couldnt help getting seduced by the Kaveri Apu.

Im not looking for high end gaming at max specs for gaming atm and this i hope will be as trusty a servant as the Pc it replaces.

Thanks again for all the help and i will bump this when it comes to build time.



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yawhat!

Is it too late too cancel? Please say its not!

How can you get seduced by the Kavari. Its utter ****e. The APU is brutal in it! Not even 7750 standard which goes for half nothing these days.

Your overspending big time on the motherboard and powersupply as well.

Item|Price
AMD FX-6300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€98.75
8GB G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€66.45
Corsair CX Series Modular CX500M, 500W|€56.02
PowerColor Radeon R9 270 OC, 2GB GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€150.32
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€61.89
MSI 760GA-P43 (FX), Sockel AM3+, ATX, PCIe|€49.82
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€503.98

BloodBath

I did try. Another poor decision. It's your money anyway.

Sparks43

BloodBath wrote: »

I did try. Another poor decision. It's your money anyway.

I will be doing a Am3+ build later on in the year when i get a few quid together and more then likely will follow your spec.

Never had an amd build before and i would like to get hands on with one of the apus.Went for the higher psu as i may chuck a Graphics card at it at some point.Also could use it in future build.

yawhat!

I don't understand the fascination with Kavari APU. There utterly ****e for gaming. The 6300 is a better processor as well

Your also spending 80 euro on a motherboard that you don't intend on using again? Why do you think you need to spend this much on a motherboard with your budget?

600 Watt is also fine for any single card system currently out.

Get a better motherboard for the above system for around 60 and your set to go with your Am3+ build and a R9 270 that can actually play games at 1080P on high settings?

BloodBath

Agree with the above except those APU's are perfectly good for 720p once you use some high speed ram and a little overclocking.

Still the 7700k + high speed ram pushes the price towards fx 6300 + dedicated card prices which it can't stand up to at all.

The only APU I'd consider would be the well priced A8 5600k but only for 720p and only if you're on a really tight budget.

Sparks43

Is there any merit to the dual graphics on the kaveri spud.

I had thought of throwing a high end card in at some point which I could always use in a future build.

A friend of mine will be upgrading next year so I could end up passing this on to him and going for a ddr4 system if it's worth it.

yawhat!

Your basically going against every bit of advice going here.

Why?

I give up.

BloodBath

Does the board support Lucid virtu MVP?

If it does it's possible that even by adding a dedicated higher end card down the line you will still get a boost from the APU graphics.

If not I wouldn't bother putting much more than whatever card matches the APU. I think it's a R7 240 with ddr3 ram. It will nearly double the graphics performance but still comes out second best to the likes of an R9 270.

Sparks43

BloodBath wrote: »

Does the board support Lucid virtu MVP?

If it does it's possible that even by adding a dedicated higher end card down the line you will still get a boost from the APU graphics.

If not I wouldn't bother putting much more than whatever card matches the APU. I think it's a R7 240 with ddr3 ram. It will nearly double the graphics performance but still comes out second best to the likes of an R9 270.

Unfortunately the board does not support Lucid but i have had a search for that particular card and found this

http://www.dabs.ie/products/msi-amd-radeon-r7-240-730mhz-4gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-lp-97T3.html?refs=55120000&q=r7%20240&src=16

HWVS site is acting funky atm but its on there for 60 quid

Any point in crossfiring 2 of them with the apu or would i be in the range of diminishing returns?


Also i have a sky satelite in the house are there any decent tv cards that i can slot into the pc?