So the mother bought one of the new 1.5 qashqai

corkgsxr · 23-02-2014 1:26am #1

One thing I think is abit mad is its a 30k klms oil interval.

Seems a mad Length of time to me

Stavros Murphy · 23-02-2014 1:28am

Our Iveco vans are 40k service intervals..which I reckon is also a bit mad.

Gumbo · 23-02-2014 1:47am

corkgsxr wrote: »

One thing I think is abit mad is its a 30k klms oil interval.

Seems a mad Length of time to me

Do it every year or every 10000km. Whatever comes first.

biko · 23-02-2014 2:02am

Where do you read that? Isn't it 15000km?

jca · 23-02-2014 5:40am

Don't worry about it. It will have burned most of the oil long before it ever reaches 30,000km. Rotten heap of overpriced junk.

whiterebel · 23-02-2014 8:41am

biko wrote: »

Where do you read that? Isn't it 15000km?

No, 30k for the Qashqai. Same for Opel Mokka, same for Audis.

homewardbound11 · 23-02-2014 8:50am

Sane for the insignia . Im heading towards 160k and no problems . Vorrect oil is critical.

Del2005 · 23-02-2014 8:58am

kceire wrote: »

Do it every year or every 10000km. Whatever comes first.

It's been a long time since oil needed to be changed at that 6k miles, unless your driving a Yank tank. Oil and engines have improved a lot but you do need use the correct spec of oil, which is expensive, at every change.

corkgsxr · 23-02-2014 12:17pm

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Our Iveco vans are 40k service intervals..which I reckon is also a bit mad.

Ya but how much oil do they take. My trafic van is high interval but takes 8 litres of fully syth.

biko wrote: »

Where do you read that? Isn't it 15000km?

In there brochure.

homewardbound11 wrote: »

Sane for the insignia . Im heading towards 160k and no problems . Vorrect oil is critical.

But are you alot of driving. Like technically it could be 30k round town. Big diff from 30k motorway

corkgsxr · 23-02-2014 12:18pm

Checked its 4.4 litres of oil

Seweryn · 23-02-2014 12:44pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

But are you alot of driving. Like technically it could be 30k round town. Big diff from 30k motorway

If around town then you will likely be doing the oil changes based on time inervals rather than mileage.

I agree, 30k km is crazy, if that was my car I would half the oil change intervals.

Stavros Murphy · 23-02-2014 1:37pm

Seweryn wrote: »

If around town then you will likely be doing the oil changes based on time inervals rather than mileage.

I agree, 30k km is crazy, if that was my car I would half the oil change intervals.

I do too - I change the oil myself between dealer services, usually at 20k and use the right oil(which is dear). I've seen so many yokes die from sludged sumps and pumps that I'm very scetical. I think it's a sales tactic to appeal to fleet managers - "huge interval, so cheap, much drive, wow"

Seweryn · 23-02-2014 2:07pm

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I think it's a sales tactic to appeal to fleet managers - "huge interval, so cheap, much drive, wow"

Exactly, this is a recipe for a disaster in long term. No wonder so many problems with turbochargers that people experience these days in engines that are serviced due to their intervals.

Gumbo · 23-02-2014 2:22pm

Del2005 wrote: »

It's been a long time since oil needed to be changed at that 6k miles, unless your driving a Yank tank. Oil and engines have improved a lot but you do need use the correct spec of oil, which is expensive, at every change.

Tbh I couldn't give a sh1t what the book or the oil spec says. I would do it yearly and have always done.

Mycroft H · 23-02-2014 3:02pm

Certain Volvo Trucks have a service interval of 100,000km. Long intervals are nothing new and nothing to be feared about.

Nonoperational · 23-02-2014 3:04pm

jca wrote: »

Don't worry about it. It will have burned most of the oil long before it ever reaches 30,000km. Rotten heap of overpriced junk.

Sigh.

corkgsxr · 23-02-2014 3:06pm

Mycroft H wrote: »

Certain Volvo Trucks have a service interval of 100,000km. Long intervals are nothing new and nothing to be feared about.

But how much oil do they take? Its a large amount. Capacity makes a big difference in it

Mycroft H · 23-02-2014 3:10pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

But how much oil do they take? Its a large amount. Capacity makes a big difference in it

40 odd litres

:pac:

Xpro · 23-02-2014 3:11pm

Del2005 wrote: »

It's been a long time since oil needed to be changed at that 6k miles, unless your driving a Yank tank. Oil and engines have improved a lot but you do need use the correct spec of oil, which is expensive, at every change.

Thats true, but in my personal experience I found out trough out the years and also dealing with new long life oil cars, shorter intervals are always better. No matter what the requirement is.

Typical example is a PSA 1.6Hdi engine. Long life interval,and what happens,the oil clogs the strainer, turbo pipes,etc and heres the failure.

Same engine with regular short oil intervals will last long long time, without any failures.

Seweryn · 23-02-2014 3:23pm

Mycroft H wrote: »

Certain Volvo Trucks have a service interval of 100,000km. Long intervals are nothing new and nothing to be feared about.

This is in a complete different league, firstly due to the amount of oil used on each service and secondly the truck will do this mileage in (less than) a year.

Xpro · 23-02-2014 3:28pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

But how much oil do they take? Its a large amount. Capacity makes a big difference in it

40L+. nearly ten times the average car amount

noelf · 23-02-2014 3:34pm

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Mycroft H wrote: »

40 odd litres :pac:

E480 for just an oil change !! Unless bulk buying brings the cost down

jca · 23-02-2014 3:40pm

Nonoperational wrote: »

Sigh.

You may sigh. @ op, make sure to check the oil level regularly. Work colleague bought one new in August 08 and only we checked it for him two months later it definitely would have seized. Dipstick was a dry as a bone it took almost 4 litres to top it up!! He contacted Nissan who said, Ah sure they all do that while running in.... it says it in the handbook.... It did settle down a bit but still burns oil at an uncomfortable rate. He's had terrible problems with his and regrets the day he ever bought it. He toyed with trading up to the new 141 but Nissan didn't want to know....

Mycroft H · 23-02-2014 4:03pm

Seweryn wrote: »

This is in a complete different league, firstly due to the amount of oil used on each service and secondly the truck will do this mileage in (less than) a year.

But the car is proportionally less considering the mileage it might do. Average car does 20,000km p.a? 20,000km service interval?

timmy4u2 · 23-02-2014 4:19pm

jca wrote: »

Don't worry about it. It will have burned most of the oil long before it ever reaches 30,000km. Rotten heap of overpriced junk.

Are they not a renault in disguise waiting to pounce on an unsuspecting punter

Seweryn · 23-02-2014 4:28pm

Mycroft H wrote: »

But the car is proportionally less considering the mileage it might do. Average car does 20,000km p.a? 20,000km service interval?

Yeah, but an average person will not service his car once a year, if the mileage is lower than the interval.

corkgsxr · 23-02-2014 4:43pm

jca wrote: »

You may sigh. @ op, make sure to check the oil level regularly. Work colleague bought one new in August 08 and only we checked it for him two months later it definitely would have seized. Dipstick was a dry as a bone it took almost 4 litres to top it up!! He contacted Nissan who said, Ah sure they all do that while running in.... it says it in the handbook.... It did settle down a bit but still burns oil at an uncomfortable rate. He's had terrible problems with his and regrets the day he ever bought it. He toyed with trading up to the new 141 but Nissan didn't want to know....

So it had half a litre left in the engine? Without a warning light coming up?

timmy4u2 wrote: »

Are they not a renault in disguise waiting to pounce on an unsuspecting punter

Yep reno engine/gearbox not sure about the rest

Seweryn wrote: »

Yeah, but an average person will not service his car once a year, if the mileage is lower than the interval.

Thats probably half the problem.

Mycroft H · 23-02-2014 4:47pm

Seweryn wrote: »

Yeah, but an average person will not service his car once a year, if the mileage is lower than the interval.

But it usually specs that every year or a certain mileage whichever comes first.

tomdempsey200 · 23-02-2014 4:49pm

jca wrote: »

You may sigh. @ op, make sure to check the oil level regularly. Work colleague bought one new in August 08 and only we checked it for him two months later it definitely would have seized. Dipstick was a dry as a bone it took almost 4 litres to top it up!! He contacted Nissan who said, Ah sure they all do that while running in.... it says it in the handbook.... It did settle down a bit but still burns oil at an uncomfortable rate. He's had terrible problems with his and regrets the day he ever bought it. He toyed with trading up to the new 141 but Nissan didn't want to know....

really,??

Seweryn · 23-02-2014 4:55pm

Mycroft H wrote: »

But it usually specs that every year or a certain mileage whichever comes first.

I know that, but it is not in an average car user's mind. Most of people I know will never service their car until the milege is covered regardless of time.

Mycroft H · 23-02-2014 4:58pm

Seweryn wrote: »

I know that, but it is not in an average car user's mind. Most of people I know will never service their car until the milege is covered regardless of time.

But isn't that rather and issue of driver education rather than the perceived "unreliability" of modern engines?

Seweryn · 23-02-2014 5:01pm

Mycroft H wrote: »

But isn't that rather and issue of driver education rather than the perceived "unreliability" of modern engines?

Absolutely yes, same goes for (not) checking the oil level.

R.O.R · 23-02-2014 5:10pm

Had a new Qashqai in on Demo for a couple of days this week.

Bet "meh" to drive, but a decent looking motor, well laid out inside, some interesting features, reasonable price and should hold it's value very well. Not really much can be said against it, unless you haven't been in one, then let fly about how rubbish they are....

The one we had in was a 1.5Dci SVE. Enough power in the engine to keep pace with traffic. Isn't going to win the traffic light GP, but they generally aren't bought for that. SVE equipment is a bit of overkill, and the SV is more than enough - apparently the SV with the safety pack is the big seller so far.

Tried the self park and it worked, both parallel and reverse park. Slightly confusing system to select, but fine once you get used to it. Couldn't get the active cruise to work, and the lane departure was a bit annoying on a narrow road. On board cameras for all sides of the car are a bit of a gimmick as the picture isn't clear enough to make out anything but coloured blurs.

osheen · 23-02-2014 5:18pm

Xpro wrote: »

Thats true, but in my personal experience I found out trough out the years and also dealing with new long life oil cars, shorter intervals are always better. No matter what the requirement is.

Typical example is a PSA 1.6Hdi engine. Long life interval,and what happens,the oil clogs the strainer, turbo pipes,etc and heres the failure.

Same engine with regular short oil intervals will last long long time, without any failures.

I have a citroen with this engine and was advised that the interval had now changed from 30k to 15

jca · 23-02-2014 5:19pm

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

really,??

Yep. He put a turbo in it last year. Lovely looking machine in fairness. It was top spec for 08 full glass roof all the gizmos but plagued with problems almost from day one. I got a short spin in it when it was new and thought it was very gutless. Lovely driving position very comfortable seat. Would I buy one? Not a chance!!!

So the mother bought one of the new 1.5 qashqai

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