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What's the best free antivirus programme?

  • 22-02-2014 9:53pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭


    Hi guys, I just wanted a bit of advice on what free anti virus software I could install.??
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Avast or AVG would be at the top of my personal list...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    AVG is my favourite, does what it says on the tin and keeps the annoying popups to the minimum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    mike_ie wrote: »
    Avast or AVG would be at the top of my personal list...

    AVG was good about 4 years ago, it's now bloated and detection rates are crap. Avast and Avira are what I recommend these days of the free ones.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Avast seems to be well regarded nowadays.

    Got good review on PCPro for latest version too:
    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/software/387166/avast-free-antivirus-2014

    I thought AVG had bettered itself in recent times, though I'm not sure, as I haven't used it in years, due to it becoming bloatware as White Heart Loon said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Install Adblock as well on your browser if you havn't allready!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭rolliepoley


    I have been using Avira for a long time with no problems.

    http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    I simply put Microsoft Security Essentials on all my windows boxes and never had any issues


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    Boskowski wrote: »
    I simply put Microsoft Security Essentials on all my windows boxes and never had any issues

    It's detection rates are crap, have you ever had it pop up and warn you? Thought not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Avast and Comodo are the only decent ones, you still won't get more than 90% protection with any free product unless you are an expert using Comodo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    It's detection rates are crap, have you ever had it pop up and warn you? Thought not

    True but that doesn't mean much. I had PCs since the beginning of PCs and I had 3 viruses in all these years.

    P.S. I found the best free anti virus software is Linux.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭percy212


    Do not put avg on your computer. Its an octopus -and I am fairly sure that a combo of a windows update and an avg update corrupted my boot sector. Danger danger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone


    There's a reason you have to pay for antivirus software.
    The free versions will be ok to a point, but any half way sophisticated spyware or malware is going to walz right through it. But, as has been said already, avira, comodo, avg & avast are all ok as freebies, with avg & comodo imo probably being slightly out In front


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 lucy1


    Def AVG Free


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    avira, avg are all ok

    Stop right there, letting in 50% of threats is not OK. What everyone needs is Norton internet security, it goes for €20 every now and again in argos.

    If you are doing anything with money, banking or shopping, you absolutely need Norton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    lucy1 wrote: »
    Def AVG Free

    AVG lets in about 50% of threats and has sent up computer breaking bugs in their updates 3 times in the last 5 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    Been using Avast for a few years now and it does the job nicely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    There's a reason you have to pay for antivirus software.

    Nonsense, the free ones are fine, but the best security is common sense. An adblocker is essential to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,705 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You can buy a cd key for Norton at www.g2a.com for €14.50. I've bought fifa 14 off them and the code was sent in 15 minutes and worked perfectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭mobby


    Avast for me too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    You can buy a cd key for Norton at www.g2a.com for €14.50. I've bought fifa 14 off them and the code was sent in 15 minutes and worked perfectly.

    If you're going to buy one get Kaspersky or Nod32. There are plenty out there making a living from removing Norton, although it's not as bad as it used be. This thread is about free ones though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Nonsense, the free ones are fine, but the best security is common sense. An adblocker is essential to.

    I have studied computer security and tested most security products and I can assure you they are not fine. Most free products offer less than 70% protection. To be fair the average user comes in contact with approx 5 pieces of malware each year but where shopping and banking is concerned I rather be properly protected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    If you're going to buy one get Kaspersky or Nod32. There are plenty out there making a living from removing Norton, although it's not as bad as it used be. This thread is about free ones though

    Kaspersky is decent, detection rates have declined in the last few years. Nod 32 is useless, it has reasonable malware detection but that it's there are no extra security features. Norton has always had the best detection and prevention rates by far but a few years ago they released a string of terrible products. Norton antivirus is rubbish, Norton 360 offers no extra protection and will slow your computer down so much but Norton internet security is the best product out there by miles. The only thing that can compete with Norton is Comodo on paranoid mode with you being an expert and making all the decisions for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    You can buy a cd key for Norton at www.g2a.com for €14.50. I've bought fifa 14 off them and the code was sent in 15 minutes and worked perfectly.

    Its only €9 for me. It's well worth it https://www.g2a.com/norton-internet-security-1pc-1-year-multilanguage-cd-key-1.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat


    bit defender free is very good , but if you do alot of banking / shopping etc , better off with linux


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone


    GarIT wrote: »
    Stop right there, letting in 50% of threats is not OK. What everyone needs is Norton internet security, it goes for €20 every now and again in argos.

    If you are doing anything with money, banking or shopping, you absolutely need Norton.

    I presume you read my whole post where I stated that they are all going to be bypassed
    You know as well as I do that people won't always pay for a net program.
    You can advise them, explain the pitfalls & when they decline the benefit of your advice & knowledge just wait until they come back a few months later to pay you to remove the infections & then put a proper protection package onboard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone


    Nonsense, the free ones are fine, but the best security is common sense. An adblocker is essential to.

    It's not nonsense, to suggest otherwise is incorrect. But, it keeps me employed, so I'm not too bothered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Get Microsoft Security Essentials, Malwarebytes anti-malware and Ccleaner and
    you'll almost definitely never run into any problems.

    For visiting "dodgy" websites I strongly recommend Sandboxie; It's basically an isolated version of your browser that sandboxes and eliminates all information/data (including any viruses) the second you close the window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I presume you read my whole post where I stated that they are all going to be bypassed
    You know as well as I do that people won't always pay for a net program.
    You can advise them, explain the pitfalls & when they decline the benefit of your advice & knowledge just wait until they come back a few months later to pay you to remove the infections & then put a proper protection package onboard

    I don't disagree with your post, I'm just saying that avg and avira are not longer comparable to avast. Avast is the only reasonably good free security product left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Get Microsoft Security Essentials, Malwarebytes anti-malware and Ccleaner and
    you'll almost definitely never run into any problems.

    For visiting "dodgy" websites I strongly recommend Sandboxie; It's basically an isolated version of your browser that sandboxes and eliminates all information/data (including any viruses) the second you close the window.

    You do know Microsoft have asked people not to use Security essentials as anything other than a backup to help your real antivirus? Malwarebytes will only help you if you scan with it regularly and Ccleaner won't do much for you at all.

    When the person trying to get you to use their product has to say that it wont do what you want it to you know the product isn't good enough, whats worse is when the product is one of the best of all the free products.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone


    GarIT wrote: »
    I don't disagree with your post, I'm just saying that avg and avira are not longer comparable to avast. Avast is the only reasonably good free security product left.

    Personally not a fan of avast, have seen it bypassed a little too easily at times. But I'm sure you have the same issue with avg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    GarIT wrote: »
    You do know Microsoft have asked people not to use Security essentials as anything other than a backup to help your real antivirus? Malwarebytes will only help you if you scan with it regularly and Ccleaner won't do much for you at all.

    Why wouldn't you scan with it regularly? You can set it to scan automatically quite easily. I agree that Ccleaner is irrelevant but a lot of people start complaining that their laptop is running slowly and they think it's a virus when their cache is just packed with crap. To be honest if you use a sandboxed web browser you'd probably never need to worry about a virus.

    I used to have Avast and AVG installed but I deleted them, hell I even had the cracked eset Nod32 for a while (which is probably what I'd recommend) but they just seemed to be a waste. Perhaps I've been lucky up until now and if that's the case I'll gladly take your advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Personally not a fan of avast, have seen it bypassed a little too easily at times. But I'm sure you have the same issue with avg

    I've tested both in depth and Avast is much better, Avast is better than most paid products. Avast is the most annoying thing you could ever put on your computer though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone


    GarIT wrote: »
    I've tested both in depth and Avast is much better, Avast is better than most paid products. Avast is the most annoying thing you could ever put on your computer though.

    From my experience, it's the opposite, but when a customer comes to me my preference for a paid product is always Norton internet security. As long as no one asks for, or suggests bullguard I'm happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Boskowski wrote: »
    P.S. I found the best free anti virus software is Linux.
    How does it play with all the latest games? :P
    emmetkenny wrote: »
    You can buy a cd key for Norton at www.g2a.com for €14.50. I've bought fifa 14 off them and the code was sent in 15 minutes and worked perfectly.
    Norton will slow down any machine. I'd even advise AVG over it!

    =-=

    I find Bitdefender Internet Security to be good. Lets nothing in or out, and detects virus the moment you unzip it from a rar file (and sometimes before).

    I am not a fan of the updated interface, however, now their new way of scanning, so I won't recommend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Why wouldn't you scan with it regularly? You can set it to scan automatically quite easily. I agree that Ccleaner is irrelevant but a lot of people start complaining that their laptop is running slowly and they think it's a virus when their cache is just packed with crap. To be honest if you use a sandboxed web browser you'd probably never need to worry about a virus.

    I used to have Avast and AVG installed but I deleted them, hell I even had the cracked eset Nod32 for a while (which is probably what I'd recommend) but they just seemed to be a waste. Perhaps I've been lucky up until now and if that's the case I'll gladly take your advice.

    Usually you'll forget, Malwarebytes only works automatically in the paid version. Most people forget that they need to be scanning before they do any banking. A decent sandboxed browser would keep you safe but most people think it's too much effort and give up after a few days. You would be surprised with how many people would think it is OK to click I know this program is safe, or click later on updates.

    I wouldn't say you have been lucky, just normal. On average it would take you between 1 and 2 years to come across a noticeable and harmful virus. Then when you consider how often the average person you will see that your security program does very little. On average if you were using avast it would probably take you 100 years before you had your bank details stolen, if you look at that as a group of 100 people using avast, on average 1 would have their bank details stolen each year. From my point of view I rather pay the €20 to get 98-99% protection from Norton than take the less than 1% risk of having my life savings cleared out, other people take that risk and I suppose that's up to them.

    For the average user though Avast is the only free product that I would consider acceptable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    the_syco wrote: »
    Norton will slow down any machine. I'd even advise AVG over it!

    =-=

    Bitdefender Internet Security

    From Norton Internet Security 2012 onwards they are piratically the lightest around, slowing down your computer was the only fault Norton ever had and they have done great work on improving that. I've run Norton 2013 on Atom netbooks and not seen any problems.

    Bit defender is good, it's at the upper end of the paid products but a bit off Norton on detection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    GarIT wrote: »
    From Norton Internet Security 2012 onwards they are piratically the lightest around, slowing down your computer was the only fault Norton ever had and they have done great work on improving that. I've run Norton 2013 on Atom netbooks and not seen any problems.

    Bit defender is good, it's at the upper end of the paid products but a bit off Norton on detection.
    What's Nortons firwall like these days? Both incoming and outgoing. I've caught one or two programs calling home that shouldn't be in the directory that they were in.

    It used to be fairly pointless upgrading your laptop if you were installing Nortons. I'll look into how their product in 200 days (when my years sub is running out).

    BTW, how much can you configure it, and does it have some sort of "auto-pilot" mode (so I can configure other machines, and then let others use them)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Using free anti-virus software just shows a lack of caution with most folk. These anti-virus software products are not good enough, and are also no good at stopping real-time nasty viruses from entering your system.

    AVG is terrible, as I have purposely throughout the years infected my test system with some bad viruses/keyloggers and malware and AVG didn't even notice they were there. Norton is not a good choice either for a paid subscription as it is on the lower scale imo.

    Kaspersky internet security and bit defender came out tops at removing all viruses from the test machine with a reboot. Some PUP's (potentially unwanted programs) were easily removed using the free malwarebytes software.

    Also, if using firefox, you should install the free addon add-blocker called... Adblock Edge 2.0.9. Kaspersky has a built-in anti-add-banner but Adblock Edge is much better if using firefox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    GarIT wrote: »
    From Norton Internet Security 2012 onwards they are piratically the lightest around, slowing down your computer was the only fault Norton ever .....

    Speed was not the only problem. IMO Norton used to be worse than having an virus. As for slow, it could make a glacier look fast. Uninstalling it was a nightmare, and personally it took so long to fix you were better re-installing the OS. It was soooo bad.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus#Criticism

    They may have sped it up. Personally I'll never trust it. Even in the bad old days it topped the charts in all the reviews, but this wasn't reflected in my experience of it in Real Life. For a very long time, for me, "is Norton installed" was up there with "turn it off and on again" as the most common support phrase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    I always hear the statement that AVG and all the other free anti-virus software work great because after the scan nothing is found and people assume their system is clean, well think again, it just isn't finding the viruses/keyloggers/malware/spyware.

    If you really want piece of mind and a generously working anti-virus scanner, purchase one. They are not all 100% but the best ones will do the job well as long as definition files are automatically set for updates. Free ones will just not cut it.

    Would you rather your home, half secured, or fully secured to the best of your ability ? the same goes with computer systems, lock it up well so no-one can find it easy to get in through the back-door. Free will not cut it. Sure a person can purchase kaspersky internet security suite 2014 for 1 pc for €20 on Ebay UK for a full year, so I see no excuse with taking a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Zenno stop trying to sell people crap they don't need.

    Avast hands down is the best AV solution I've ever used including compared to paid services.

    Combined it with the odd scan with Malwarebytes and the use of Adblocker and you're covered. Don't expect the programs to completely make up for ignorance.

    AVG, Norton and MSE are complete bollocks in my experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭padma


    Avast here the past 4 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    I use Panda on my Windows and find it very good and light on resources, I don't like Avast as it's a resource hog, but as been said common sense is always important, I use no Antivirus on my Linux Mint and that's what I use most but you still have to be careful.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    As far as free Anti-virus goes, Microsoft Security Essentials or AVG.

    Of course, no Anti-virus will protect you if you do not run scans regularly or keep it enabled/updated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Mr. G wrote: »
    Microsoft Security Essentials

    Microsoft has asked everyone not to use Microsoft Security Essentials as it is not good enough to properly protect you, and that you should only ever use it as a backup to your real protection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    GarIT wrote: »
    Stop right there, letting in 50% of threats is not OK. What everyone needs is Norton internet security, it goes for €20 every now and again in argos.

    If you are doing anything with money, banking or shopping, you absolutely need Norton.

    Bollocks. There are far better free and paid options than Norton. Do you work for Norton?
    GarIT wrote: »
    I have studied computer security and tested most security products and I can assure you they are not fine. Most free products offer less than 70% protection. To be fair the average user comes in contact with approx 5 pieces of malware each year but where shopping and banking is concerned I rather be properly protected.

    Let's have a look at your conclusive testing evidence then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Personally I don't trust Norton or the scores it achieves. Microsoft seem to be slowly dropping MSE, for a couple of reasons, they want to move away from XP, and MSE gives people an excuse to keep it. Also they have AV built into to Windows 8. The intent to move people to Windows 8 is pretty obvious. AVG got very bloated. So I no longer use that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭noel farrell


    I have been using avast seems to work fine in the background, for me Norton is worse than any virus it will slow your PC to a crawl ,and boy is it hard to get off your computer, I had to get their Norton remover to get rid of it, and even then it was a battle, I guess some of it is still bidding in my laptop weighting to pop up,,


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