Why did cigs go up this week?

jenjenten

OH bought a pack yesterday and they went up 10c to €9.60
Was there a mini budget this week or something?....did anything else go up in price?

MadsL

jenjenten wrote: »

OH bought a pack yesterday and they went up 10c to €9.60

Tell her to cop the fuck on and quit or vape...you can buy cheaper vodka ffs.

TheJokesOnUs

Should be raised to €20.00 to discourage that dirty filthy habit

Shane-KornSpace

TheJokesOnUs wrote: »

Should be raised to €20.00 to discourage that dirty filthy habit

And encourage the black market to increase in size?
Great idea!

grenache

Not all cigs went up, only the brands manufactured/distributed by John Player. So that would be John Player, SUPERKINGS, JPS, Lambert & Butler, Regal, Golden Virginia, Drum & Marlboro

roadsmart

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

And encourage the black market to increase in size?
Great idea!

Yes, how terrible. Then smokers would end up buying really dangerous cigarettes that are full of chemicals that could kill them if they don't stop using them.

Oh wait a minute........

Shane-KornSpace

roadsmart wrote: »

Yes, how terrible. Then smokers would end up buying really dangerous cigarettes that are full of chemicals that could kill them if they don't stop using them.

Oh wait a minute........

While said people are dying a smokers death, the gubberment lose out on all that tax and end up spending more money on the gards tackling black market crime.

Price increases aren't the answer.

kneemos

A tenner for a pack!Mad.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

While said people are dying a smokers death, the gubberment lose out on all that tax and end up spending more money on the gards tackling black market crime.

Price increases aren't the answer.

Cut all government duty on them but exempt all smokers from free health care. If they want treatment for any respiratory ailment they pay in full. If they can afford a packet or two a day then they can afford to pay for medical care.

kneemos

MadsL wrote: »

Tell her to cop the fuck on and quit or vape...you can buy cheaper vodka ffs.

You could buy a house never mind Vodka.

Kidchameleon

TheJokesOnUs wrote: »

Should be raised to €20.00 to discourage that dirty filthy habit

I have a better idea, how about we let people do whatever the f*ck they want with their own bodies?

JustAddWater

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I have a better idea, how about we let people do whatever the f*ck they want with their own bodies?

And what about 2nd hand smoke??

TheJokesOnUs

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I have a better idea, how about we let people do whatever the f*ck they want with their own bodies?

Don't care what they do with their bodies as long as I don't have to smell and see their filth.

kneemos

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I have a better idea, how about we let people do whatever the f*ck they want with their own bodies?

Most smokers don't want to smoke.

Shane-KornSpace

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

While said people are dying a smokers death, the gubberment lose out on all that tax and end up spending more money on the gards tackling black market crime.

Price increases aren't the answer.

I don't have any figures so this is a total uneducated guess here, but I would have thought (or wouldn't be surprised to hear) that the health issues caused by smoking are costing the exchequer a lot more money than is taken in by the tax on fags.

It's not just cancer and emphysema either, research has shown smoking to have a bad affect on the likes of Alzheimer's and Crohn's disease too. Treatment for those will not only cost the health service, they'll take the patient out of the tax-paying workforce for a long long time as well remember.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

smokers tend to die younger too so cost the state quite a bit less in end of life care

ygolometsipe

They should only sell cigarettes in pharmacies.
You should also have to visit the doctor for a chat about your
addiction every six months to get the stamp to be able to buy them see above.
They should remove labeling.
The government should be forced to spend 50% of the revenue generated from
cig sales into finding either safer ways (e-cigs) or preventing it.

There should be far tougher sentences for anyone who buys cigs for kids.

roadsmart

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

smokers tend to die younger too so cost the state quite a bit less in end of life care

I think the opposite is true, smokers are a huge life-long burden on the state and contribute to the hospital bed crisis. It really would be easier all round if they just did away with themselves.

Arthur Beesley

Smokers are jokers.

stateofflux

roadsmart wrote: »

I think the opposite is true, smokers are a huge life-long burden on the state and contribute to the hospital bed crisis. It really would be easier all round if they just did away with themselves.

while we are at it lets do the same for alcoholics, obese people, anyone that has a diet related heart condition and ex gaa players with arthritis

roadsmart

stateofflux wrote: »

while we are at it lets do the same for alcoholics, obese people, anyone that has a diet related heart condition and ex gaa players with arthritis

The difference being that all of the above activities/conditions in moderation are not harmful, whereas every cigarette is.

Stavros Murphy

JustAddWater wrote: »

And what about 2nd hand smoke??

Feck off and buy yer own. I hate passive smokers, they're a scourge. Too mean to buy them, still want the benefits.







Lobs inflammatory comment into the melee to counter all the ones lobbed in cheerily by the antis..

ygolometsipe

stateofflux wrote: »

while we are at it lets do the same for alcoholics, obese people, anyone that has a diet related heart condition and ex gaa players with arthritis

I would vote for this!

No Pants

JustAddWater wrote: »

And what about 2nd hand smoke??

Lots available on Donedeal. Cheap too. Get as much as you like.

Kidchameleon

JustAddWater wrote: »

And what about 2nd hand smoke??

I take it you don't drive? Otherwise the above is a tad hypocritical don't you think?

Kidchameleon

kneemos wrote: »

Most smokers don't want to smoke.

It should be left up to them to quit though instead of a nanny state forcing them to. How would you feel if the state decided to ban alcohol? Like cigarettes, it has many bad effects on the drinker and those around him/her. By the way I don't smoke and rarely drink.

Kidchameleon

TheJokesOnUs wrote: »

Don't care what they do with their bodies as long as I don't have to smell and see their filth.

I agree with banning smoking in pubs/workplaces so if you don't want to smell their habit then just stay away from them.

Stavros Murphy

roadsmart wrote: »

The difference being that all of the above activities/conditions in moderation are not harmful, whereas every cigarette is.

I've never met a moderate alcoholic, are they the sort that only drink when no-ones looking? If you tarry long enough to remove your underpants from outside your Slacks, you'll find alcohol causes a damn sight more problems than smoking. I've yet to hear of a lad having ten Majors, then battering the wife and kids, before driving off, crashing the car, and killing some pedestrians, all due to "being off his head on the fags"

roadsmart

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I've never met a moderate alcoholic, are they the sort that only drink when no-ones looking? If you tarry long enough to remove your underpants from outside your Slacks, you'll find alcohol causes a damn sight more problems than smoking. I've yet to hear of a lad having ten Majors, then battering the wife and kids, before driving off, crashing the car, and killing some pedestrians, all due to "being off his head on the fags"

I think you need to check the word "moderation" in a dictionary.

keeponhurling

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

Smokers are jokers.

Haven't heard this phrase for about 20 years, I LOL'd!

dmc17

roadsmart wrote: »

The difference being that all of the above activities/conditions in moderation are not harmful, whereas every cigarette is.

Alcoholics don't drink in moderation and obese people don't tend to eat in moderation. So in their case every drink is harmful and every doughnut is harmful. So maybe you should do away with them too while you're at it?

roadsmart

dmc17 wrote: »

Alcoholics don't drink in moderation and obese people don't tend to eat in moderation. So in their case every drink is harmful and every doughnut is harmful. So maybe you should do away with them too while you're at it?

Please show me where I said I would do away with anyone?

dmc17

roadsmart wrote: »

Please show me where I said I would do away with anyone?

Apologies. You said it would be easier if they did away with themselves. Would it be easier if everyone with a problem or bad habit did away with themselves? There wouldn't be many people left then. It'd just be your good self.

roadsmart

dmc17 wrote: »

Apologies. You said it would be easier if they did away with themselves. Would it be easier if everyone with a problem or bad habit did away with themselves? There wouldn't be many people left then. It'd just be your good self.

Im specifically speaking of smokers here. If you wish to discuss other topics such as alcoholism, why not start a thread on it?
Smokers willingly put harmful substances into their body, causing damage and sickness to themselves, and ultimately death. I merely suggested they may cut out all the middle pain and expense between the onset of smoking and date of expiration.

blade1

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I've yet to hear of a lad having ten Majors, then battering the wife and kids, before driving off, crashing the car, and killing some pedestrians

On the contrary, I'm off the Fags over a month and it's no fags makes u want to do these things :pac:

kneemos

dmc17 wrote: »

Alcoholics don't drink in moderation and obese people don't tend to eat in moderation. So in their case every drink is harmful and every doughnut is harmful. So maybe you should do away with them too while you're at it?

Why do people have to drag in other harmful habits when dealing with one particular issue?
It's the same whenever anyone mentions drug use,straight away it's onto alcohol.

roadsmart

kneemos wrote: »

Why do people have to drag in other harmful habits when dealing with one particular issue?
It's the same whenever anyone mentions drug use,straight away it's onto alcohol.

And if they are going to, at least compare like with like. Few drinkers will become alcoholics, few eaters will become obese, few sports players will develop arthritis, but EVERY smoker is doing damage to themselves.

dmc17

kneemos wrote: »

Why do people have to drag in other harmful habits when dealing with one particular issue?
It's the same whenever anyone mentions drug use,straight away it's onto alcohol.

It's just trying to put a comment into context. Do you agree that all smokers should do away with themselves because they are smokers?

vicwatson

I love popcorn

roadsmart

dmc17 wrote: »

It's just trying to put a comment into context. Do you agree that all smokers should do away with themselves because they are smokers?

No, I think all smokers should stop.

kneemos

dmc17 wrote: »

It's just trying to put a comment into context. Do you agree that all smokers should do away with themselves because they are smokers?

Trying to justify their habit more like,and no.

dmc17

kneemos wrote: »

Trying to justify their habit more like,and no.

Not trying to justify it at all. I just think it's a bit extreme to say it would be easier if smokers just killed themselves. I'm sure everyone knows a smoker and it wouldn't make anything easier if they just killed themselves.

roadsmart

dmc17 wrote: »

It's just trying to put a comment into context. Do you agree that all smokers should do away with themselves because they are smokers?

Btw, it is my opinion that they are already doing away with themselves.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

roadsmart wrote: »

No, I think all smokers should stop.

Get off your high horse, seriously. Yes, its a fact that smoking is bad for you, affects your health immediately, and may leave you a burden on the health system. But its peoples choice. Some dont want to give up but most are just completely addicted and can't. Its not as easy as all smokers just stopping.

By the way, I'm saying this as an ex-smoker who quit a year ago.

dmc17

roadsmart wrote: »

Btw, it is my opinion that they are already doing away with themselves.

In the long run yes, but then again "In the long run we are all dead". I believe a better all round solution would be to quit as opposed to doing away with oneself.

Kidchameleon

kneemos wrote: »

Why do people have to drag in other harmful habits when dealing with one particular issue?
It's the same whenever anyone mentions drug use,straight away it's onto alcohol.

And here's me thinking alcohol was a drug, silly me :rolleyes:

roadsmart

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Get off your high horse, seriously. Yes, its a fact that smoking is bad for you, affects your health immediately, and may leave you a burden on the health system. But its peoples choice. Some dont want to give up but most are just completely addicted and can't. Its not as easy as all smokers just stopping.

By the way, I'm saying this as an ex-smoker who quit a year ago.

It seems to me that it's smokers who are equine-ly elevated, if that's a word. I am saying that the system shouldn't have to bear the burden of willingly self inflicted sickness, and speaking as an ex smoker as well, I do not accept that smokers cannot quit.

roadsmart

dmc17 wrote: »

In the long run yes, but then again "In the long run we are all dead". I believe a better all round solution would be to quit as opposed to doing away with oneself.

So we agree. Unfortunately the long run for smokers imposes a huge burden on the system that wouldn't be there if they didn't smoke.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

And encourage the black market to increase in size?
Great idea!

Won't be long with the price of them anyway.

Ban the rotten habit.

conorhal

TheJokesOnUs wrote: »

Should be raised to €20.00 to discourage that dirty filthy habit

And 20 euro on a bag of chips might soften the fatties cough too, but I suspect that might be unacceptable for some reason.

Greenmachine

grenache wrote: »

Not all cigs went up, only the brands manufactured/distributed by John Player. So that would be John Player, SUPERKINGS, JPS, Lambert & Butler, Regal, Golden Virginia, Drum & Marlboro

Don't Phillip Morris make Marlboro, not Players & sons.